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Because I can’t see 2PGermany as anything other than a pathetic, weasely, whiny, useless, undependable, unorganised, unproductive, whimpering, rubbish, ineffectual, incompetent, inept, incapable, hopeless, idiotic, worthless, inadequate, ineffectual waste of time.I just can’t see him as cool or badass. To me he looks like a poor man’s parody of a badass. I see individual elements that are supposed to be badass, but the problem is once you compare him to the genuine article he pales in comparison.
Even though I see artwork where he does look quite badass, I just don’t get it. If you go by the theory that the 2Players are sort of the anti-Hetalia characters, then really 2PGermany should be useless, indecisive and unorganised. He’s a bit like normal-Italy, but without any of the adorable charm.
Also, what is up with that scar on his arm? Was he mauled by a tiger or something?
I’m totally fine for someone to give me a case study on why they would think 2PGermany is badass. I just don’t really see him that way… He wears purple trousers… purple trousers….
(Also, I sort of like the idea that in the Mirror-universe Germany and Italy have swapped places)
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Comments: 54
RubyCast [2014-08-16 03:17:49 +0000 UTC]
Finally! Someone else who thinks 2p!Germany being a bada doesn't make any sense.
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Raax-theIceWarrior In reply to RubyCast [2014-08-27 19:31:09 +0000 UTC]
Thank you. Glad to find someone that agrees. I mean look at him, he's totally just pretending to cool.
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RubyCast In reply to Raax-theIceWarrior [2014-08-27 21:45:28 +0000 UTC]
Totally. 2p Italy probably gave him those scars for being annoying.
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KaijinKyn [2014-07-23 19:39:45 +0000 UTC]
Ahaha, I've always thought Germany's 2P was a wimp, and Italy's was a badass. I had the same mindset as you, considering the 2P's are their opposites shouldn't Lutz be the 'Heta' of their relationship? Like how 2P!Russia to me is a scary looking dude who gets frightened by his own servants...
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Raax-theIceWarrior In reply to KaijinKyn [2014-08-01 19:29:45 +0000 UTC]
Yes! Awesome to find someone else that feels the same way. The 2P Germany design just came off to me as trying too hard to look cool. So I thought the two of them switched would be appropriate.
I had the same idea for Russia as well. I reckon he gets more bullied by the other members of the Union.
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Raax-theIceWarrior In reply to Celestewhite [2014-05-16 10:05:19 +0000 UTC]
Poor fellow certainly does.
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Nami14 [2014-01-26 18:46:46 +0000 UTC]
I just spit up my soda at Lutz. So done with the 2P! Hetalia fandom.
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Raax-theIceWarrior In reply to Nami14 [2014-02-07 01:20:23 +0000 UTC]
Not entirely sure how positive that comment was, but at least Lutz got a reaction.
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Nami14 In reply to Raax-theIceWarrior [2014-02-07 05:02:54 +0000 UTC]
It's positive, I was laughing and spit up my soda in the process.
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Raax-theIceWarrior In reply to Nami14 [2014-02-10 16:55:47 +0000 UTC]
Ah, good, I misread the last part and thought my pic had lead you to give up on the 2Pfandom.
(Awesome to get a spit up drink reaction though)
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meeplian [2013-12-06 06:04:21 +0000 UTC]
haha... and this exactly how I pictured this would happen if they become 2P! :3
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Raax-theIceWarrior In reply to meeplian [2013-12-07 22:34:47 +0000 UTC]
Haha. Nice to find someone who agrees. I think it would be quite funny to see a completely coward version of Germany.
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nupao [2013-10-07 04:50:30 +0000 UTC]
This is so cool! I can almost feel my hetalia love revive! xD hahaha I am so curious about this universe... I dunno if I've asked before (poor memory) but what is it? a comic, a game, a roleplay?
Oh poor Germany what happened to you in this universe?
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Raax-theIceWarrior In reply to nupao [2013-10-07 18:38:27 +0000 UTC]
He just never developed a back bone
The '2Players' started off as a set of recolours Himaruya did of the Hetalia characters, most of them looked a lot darker than the originals, and people jumped on the designs and started coming up with their own concepts. Now they have their own continuity (to an extent).
But generally it's accepted that the 2Players are either a sort of mirror-universe or evil-anti versions of the characters. Alot of them have opposite traits (2P!England being able to cook), but the interpretations tend to change between artists, there are lots of different headcannons and variations.
I did some headshots of them a while back... raax-theicewarrior.deviantart.… cough...
I quite like the Mirror-Universe idea, I find it quite fun looking at how they've ended up differently. I'm currently working on a story with them, but I want to get it done first before I let stuff out.
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Raax-theIceWarrior In reply to UndeadCrime [2013-09-06 23:10:18 +0000 UTC]
Thank you very much. Glad you like it (and 2PGermany).
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KyoKyo866 [2013-09-06 17:00:18 +0000 UTC]
Hhhhh yes yes yes not many people have thjis headcanon, I really do and its aaaaah done so beautifully ;w;
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Raax-theIceWarrior In reply to KyoKyo866 [2013-09-06 23:06:56 +0000 UTC]
Yes, a fellow headcanoner (that is a term now). Thank you very much, and I'm glad that someone agrees with this headcanon.
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ReconditeVillain [2013-09-06 11:54:12 +0000 UTC]
The 2p characters are very interesting in that you can interpret them exactly how you want, and I find it very entertaining to hear people's different takes on them. Personally I view them as the side the 1p character is very embarrassed about, all the little quirks and things that really are them but that they would hate to show off to the rest of the world, or even to themselves. I'd say that since Germany is such an organized, neat and awkward character, the 2p side of him is more free-spirited, doesn't give a damn about keeping clean or what other people think of him.
But as said, they are to be interpreted however you want, and no ones is more right than someone else.
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Raax-theIceWarrior In reply to ReconditeVillain [2013-09-06 23:24:53 +0000 UTC]
That is the cool thing about the 2Players.
There are some comics I look at and go; even though that's not how I thought about the characters, or that doesn't fit in with my idea of them, I still think it's cool. I like your idea because it's a nice reflection and exploration of the original characters.
And even what the 2Players are seems to vary from person to person, from anti-Hetalia characters, to seemingly existing in our own universe, being other part of the main characters, to be Hetalia's equivalent of the Mirror Universe.
Personally I like the Mirror universe one, or I like extrapolating on it, it's led to some very different headcanons from what I think is the generally accepted norm.
But either way, it's still fun.
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HestiasFlame [2013-08-31 10:42:11 +0000 UTC]
Absolutely. Like 2P characters are not only the evil twins of the original, but they're also the opposite of them. Like how you see 2P!Italia being such a badass, serving you pasta with blood sauce on it while there's 1P!Italia, being a whiny-baby while toting a white flag around. Then it absolutely makes sense that 2P!Doitsu is a whiny-baby.
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Raax-theIceWarrior In reply to HestiasFlame [2013-09-06 23:36:00 +0000 UTC]
Thank you (guess I have got another person on my side with this). I find it interesting looking at the different ways the characters have turned out.
Yes, that is totally 2PItaly should be (never considered the blood pasta before, nice touch).
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dorizard [2013-07-19 18:58:03 +0000 UTC]
Their expressions
I guess people just have different takes on the 2ps; They don't have to be the opposite, as they're really just alternative colour versions of the originals and may not even be meant to be different characters altogether. Plus, you can't really make someone the exact opposite of another, as people have complicated personalities with many different aspects in them. You could make 2p Germany like Italy so he's helpless but constantly happy, or like Prussia so he's immature and thinks he's so badass. There's different ways you could go with it, but that just makes 2ptalia more interesting X3
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Raax-theIceWarrior In reply to dorizard [2013-07-23 16:53:01 +0000 UTC]
Thanks. Oh how I love drawing expressions.
I've gone through different things, where they either seem to be a mirror universe or just straight forward seem to be the characters opposites. The 2Player universe seems quite flexible to me.
Don't worry, I do have more ideas to 2PGermany's character than this. Most of the aspects of his personality I've been working have actually been for them to better reflect on the original Germany. I emphasise the 2player versions cowardice mainly for comedy, but after the comments I've been receiving I might make him more a trying to project a badass and nastier image, but inwardly being more cowardly.
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WaterdragonTonx94 In reply to Raax-theIceWarrior [2013-07-24 19:42:53 +0000 UTC]
actualy he can be like Kronk from Emperor new grow(or grew) like he looks and acts like he is badass but when the trouble arives he flees from scene
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Raax-theIceWarrior In reply to WaterdragonTonx94 [2013-07-31 23:25:23 +0000 UTC]
I have never actually seen Emperor's New Groove, if I had I might possibly have taken that route for his character development... I shall look into this.
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WaterdragonTonx94 In reply to Raax-theIceWarrior [2013-08-01 05:18:26 +0000 UTC]
Whel to me2p germany would act like overly confident goon who is not as intelectual as his 1p self(not stupid but defnitivly air headed.) Also i think he would act tought until serious problem arives.
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Raax-theIceWarrior In reply to WaterdragonTonx94 [2013-07-20 00:27:31 +0000 UTC]
Thank you!!! Making the 2Player universe look fabulous one drawing at a time...
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Parabellum08 [2013-07-13 17:10:34 +0000 UTC]
I wouldn't say 2P Germany Would be a cool Badass, I'd just say he was an intelligent and cold blooded Killer, For instance, Same attributes as normal Germany, Only he just wants to kill everyone who isn't him and beat the crap out of anyone who said he wasn't a badass, He'd be like the play ground bully everyone obeys without a choice and 2p Italy would be the one everyone knows is a psychotic bastard but pays no attention to. and probably get's beaten up be 2p Hungary and left hanging from a tree by his underwear... That's how i'd see it.
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Raax-theIceWarrior In reply to Parabellum08 [2013-07-20 00:21:15 +0000 UTC]
That's not a bad idea, I think it would work quite well for an AU Gakuen storyline (I guess it's mainly the school analogies that made think of that).
There's something about the design for 2PItaly that generally makes me think of him as being more self-confident, extrapolating mainly from the original Himaruya picture, but also the extra military details have led me to think he'd be more competent than normal-Italy.
I'd guess I'd see 2PGermany as being more outwardly imposing but inwardly more cowardly, and I end up exaggerating it alot in my sketches.
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Parabellum08 In reply to Raax-theIceWarrior [2013-07-22 21:30:39 +0000 UTC]
Ah ha ha ha, Hmmmm, not a bad idea..... You going to step up to the plate on that one then ;D XD
I must say, 2p Italy's Uniform Looks blooming fantastic by comparison. And I whole Heartedly agree on that one.
2p Germany, yeah, That or like most Nazis in the party, could be nothing like what he believes ah aha
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Raax-theIceWarrior In reply to Parabellum08 [2013-07-23 16:50:45 +0000 UTC]
Yep, I'm gonna carry on with this characterisation and see where it takes me.
Interesting point there.
It's cause 2PItaly has the sash. Gotta love sashs.
I find it interesting looking at 2PItaly's uniform, it seems to be closer to the actual military uniforms of the Second World War (and yet for normal-Italy I have been unable to find a uniform from the time that's blue).
Another thing I find with 2Player Germany is that even though he has these scars which should be cool, I can't help but think that Germany doesn't have any scars but is still cool. So to me I just imagine the 2Player version is someone who's trying too hard to look cool.
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Parabellum08 In reply to Raax-theIceWarrior [2013-08-13 18:59:21 +0000 UTC]
Probably made to suit Italy's personality. So it doesn't look so Uptight be the word to use?
ah well. Sashes are awesome. Especially when there is a ceremonial Sabre at the end...
Possibly. But Germany, Like Russia has had a lot of bloodshed and internal struggles, so could be as a reult of that maybe?
But your thought does sound plausible.
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WaterdragonTonx94 In reply to Parabellum08 [2013-07-15 13:53:06 +0000 UTC]
I like your headcanon
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Parabellum08 In reply to WaterdragonTonx94 [2013-07-18 19:53:15 +0000 UTC]
I assume that means my way of thinking XD
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Parabellum08 In reply to WaterdragonTonx94 [2013-07-23 11:14:17 +0000 UTC]
Apologies, still getting to grips with the terminology XD
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donatien1740 [2013-07-13 08:50:51 +0000 UTC]
Mirror Italy looks like he wants to kill Germany.
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Raax-theIceWarrior In reply to donatien1740 [2013-07-23 16:55:00 +0000 UTC]
Well, to be fair he is extremely annoying. He never cleans up and he always manages to mess up Italy's plans for World Domination.
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Ecclytennysmithylove [2013-07-12 04:14:52 +0000 UTC]
Yay! Finally a 2P Germany that I asked for!
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Raax-theIceWarrior In reply to Ecclytennysmithylove [2013-07-13 00:07:19 +0000 UTC]
Even though I drew him being pathetic and weird?
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Ecclytennysmithylove In reply to Raax-theIceWarrior [2013-07-13 02:34:32 +0000 UTC]
Well, in canon the 2PGermany is supposedly like Prussia (immature, jerkass, badass, etc.)
Hey, you know? Maybe you should do a pic of 2PPrussia, whose behavior is that of Germany! XD
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Raax-theIceWarrior In reply to Ecclytennysmithylove [2013-07-20 00:35:01 +0000 UTC]
Wait, that's the canon theory of 2PGermany? Why didn't someone tell me earlier? I can see him as a jackass. Not cool at all, but annoying yes. But I do see him lacking a lot of normal-Germany's competence though.
Ahhh, I also had an idea for 2PPrussia. Will get round to doing him eventually, it'll probably be fairly different from how he normally gets done (but hopefully in a fun way).
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