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Published: 2015-10-24 03:43:54 +0000 UTC; Views: 1234; Favourites: 13; Downloads: 3
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Description ....they don't cease to exist, but are instead reborn?

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So I just had a fun thought. What if when the spirits in the Dark Forest or in StarClan (or in any other afterlife in the world of Warriors) either fade away naturally or are forced to fade away by being "killed" again, don't just simply cease to exist but are rather reborn again as another cat, with no past knowleged of their former lives? No one would know, not even StarClan or the Dark Forest, because if they don't remember being someone else before fading and being reborn, how could they know what happens after they fade? That might be how Jay's Wing became Jayfeather, and Lion's Roar became Lionblaze, and Dove's Wing became Dovewing. None of them had any memories of being those ancient Tribe cats, yet when Jayfeather went into the past and became Jay's Wing (or, perhaps, "saw" through his past incarnation's eyes and into his memories?), he figured out that they used to be those cats. So how were they reincarnated? Clearly not like Cinderpelt was, who was really just two spirits inhabiting the same body. Their spirits were no longer the ancient Tribe cats, but rather who they were now. Maybe because the ancient Tribe cats' spirits faded for some reason and ended up being properly reincarnated?

I would bet that Rock and Midnight would know, since they seemed to know about Jayfeather, Dovewing, and Lionblaze being the reincarnations of Jay's Wing, Dove's Wing, and Lion's Roar. After all, Rock was the one who showed Jayfeather his past incarnation's life, and Rock and Midnight seem to work together...

Just a thought. 

Anyways, I made some new cats who are reincarnated versions of the confirmed spirits that faded. They are, in order from left to right:


Hawkeyes of ThunderClan (reincarnated from Hawkfrost of RiverClan)


Shredears of RiverClan (reincarnated from Shredtail)

Antstar of WindClan (reincarnated from Antpelt of WindClan)

Brokenfoot of ShadowClan (reincarnated from Brokenstar of ShadowClan) 

Spottedpaw of ThunderClan (reincarnated from Spottedleaf of ThunderClan)

Tigerpaw of ThunderClan (reincarnated from Tigerstar of ShadowClan)


I was thinking about writing a story about the reincarnated spirits (particularly Tigerstar, and him overcoming the inherent darkness in his soul as Tigerpaw), but unfortunately I don't have enough of a plot to write about it. Just a basic idea at the moment. 

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TobyandMavisforever [2017-12-13 12:45:44 +0000 UTC]

I think I have a theory on why Dove's Wing/Dovewing, Lion's Roar/Lionblaze and Jay's Wing/Jayfeather's spirits are the same, but Cinderpelt/Cinderheart's souls spilt in two.

The current clan cats don't even know Jay's Wing, Lion's Roar and Dove's Wing, but they do know Cinderpelt. When a cat is forgotten with time, they fade to nothing. When a cat is remembered, they are still in StarClan or the Dark Forest.

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ReddRedPanda In reply to TobyandMavisforever [2017-12-13 16:23:17 +0000 UTC]

Makes sense.

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TobyandMavisforever [2017-10-07 02:33:55 +0000 UTC]

Is this new Spottedpaw a medicine appreciate, or a normal appreciate?

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ReddRedPanda In reply to TobyandMavisforever [2017-10-07 03:03:38 +0000 UTC]

Normal.

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TobyandMavisforever In reply to ReddRedPanda [2017-10-07 03:04:08 +0000 UTC]

Ooh, this means she can have a chance a having a mate!

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ReddRedPanda In reply to TobyandMavisforever [2017-10-07 03:53:57 +0000 UTC]

Yep.

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TobyandMavisforever In reply to ReddRedPanda [2017-10-07 03:57:14 +0000 UTC]

Let's see. The latest generation. Would Shadowpaw (son of Tigerstar II and Dovewing) be around her age?

Update: Dang it! I forgot they went to ShadowClan. Bad idea.

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ReddRedPanda In reply to TobyandMavisforever [2017-10-07 04:11:24 +0000 UTC]

These guys are born in the distant future. After our current cast has long since passed on.

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TobyandMavisforever In reply to ReddRedPanda [2017-10-07 04:12:51 +0000 UTC]

Oh... well, I guess that means a ton of OCs are in order for this distant future.

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ReddRedPanda In reply to TobyandMavisforever [2017-10-07 04:52:24 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, unfortunately. But oh well. Of course, that doesn't mean the canon cats aren't around. They're just hanging out in StarClan (or the Dark Forest, depending on if they're evil or not). 

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TobyandMavisforever In reply to ReddRedPanda [2017-10-07 05:00:10 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. The StarClan cats, united as one. Half-Clan cats (Feathertail & Stormfur), interclan mating (Greystripe x Silverstream), mating with medicine cats (Raggedstar x Yellowfang), all that doesn't matter up there.

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ReddRedPanda In reply to TobyandMavisforever [2017-10-07 05:00:45 +0000 UTC]

Yup.

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TobyandMavisforever In reply to ReddRedPanda [2017-10-07 05:07:37 +0000 UTC]

But, Kittypets and loners, and whatnot, don't go to StarClan. Tallstar and Jake; and Barley and Ravenpaw won't see each other.

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ReddRedPanda In reply to TobyandMavisforever [2017-10-07 05:10:48 +0000 UTC]

Eh, I headcanon that kittypets, loners, and rogues have their own version of StarClan and that spirits can pass between each version to see their mates if separated. They just have to return back to their designated afterlife after a bit.

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TobyandMavisforever In reply to ReddRedPanda [2017-10-07 05:12:03 +0000 UTC]

That is kinda cute.

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ReddRedPanda In reply to TobyandMavisforever [2017-10-07 05:16:18 +0000 UTC]

Thanks. I just can't bare the thought of two cats who love each other being torn apart after death forever. Seems cruel.

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TobyandMavisforever In reply to ReddRedPanda [2017-10-07 05:17:21 +0000 UTC]

Indeed. And while we are on topic, I wonder who Princess' mate was, (father of Cloudtail).

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ReddRedPanda In reply to TobyandMavisforever [2017-10-07 05:20:56 +0000 UTC]

Probably someone as big and fluffy as him. Perhaps a purebred of some sort, like a persian or Maine coon. 

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TobyandMavisforever In reply to ReddRedPanda [2017-10-07 05:21:43 +0000 UTC]

Would make sense, with Princess being a kittypet.

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ReddRedPanda In reply to TobyandMavisforever [2017-10-07 05:26:14 +0000 UTC]

I dunno why, but I imaging that Cloudtail's dad is a show cat or something that doesn't go far beyond his yard. Likely Princess went to him. 

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TobyandMavisforever In reply to ReddRedPanda [2017-10-07 05:28:01 +0000 UTC]

Interesting idea. So, one of Cloudtail's unnamed siblings could have very well be a showcat in his or her life too.

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ReddRedPanda In reply to TobyandMavisforever [2017-10-07 06:03:27 +0000 UTC]

They could have been, yes.

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TobyandMavisforever In reply to ReddRedPanda [2017-10-07 06:04:24 +0000 UTC]

Cool. And, I hadn't read about him, but I've heard Cloudtail x Brightheart is one of the sweetest pairings in the series.

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ReddRedPanda In reply to TobyandMavisforever [2017-10-07 19:31:40 +0000 UTC]

It is.   

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TobyandMavisforever [2017-09-17 07:29:37 +0000 UTC]

Spottedleaf was the only StarClan cat destroyed. The rest were Dark Forest cats. I think Spottedleaf deserves this chance the most.

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ReddRedPanda In reply to TobyandMavisforever [2017-09-17 20:51:57 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, she certainly does.

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KalahariMeerkatfan [2017-05-27 21:43:00 +0000 UTC]

This actually fits that little thing you learn in science class. Energy can be broken down, but never destroyed and is recycled over and over again. 

Even now I still love these cats, but I do have one question...do these cats have the same behavior as their previous form? Would Hawkfrost still be driven to try becoming deputy of his Clan? Would Brokenfoot still attempt to force young kittens to fight before they are six moons?

Or...with being reborn, all cats involved get an entirely clean slate (including behavior and personality)?

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ReddRedPanda In reply to KalahariMeerkatfan [2017-05-28 05:43:55 +0000 UTC]

A little bit a both, I'd assume. Like, for example, Tigerpaw still might have traces of the ambition that drove him in his past life, but it whether it drives him to be cruel and murderous like before, well, that's entirely up to him in his new life. Same with the others. They may have traces of their past selves' personality, but whether it effects their new selves' positively or negatively is all up to them. 

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KalahariMeerkatfan In reply to ReddRedPanda [2021-01-23 01:54:05 +0000 UTC]

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ReddRedPanda In reply to KalahariMeerkatfan [2021-01-23 03:08:51 +0000 UTC]

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BittyKitty1 [2016-03-27 01:47:09 +0000 UTC]

Oh my gosh this is an amazing idea ;0;

... y'know, i wouldn't be opposed to writing that Tigerpaw story sometime myself! That sounds freaking awesome!

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can I do that? I'd give credit to you for the idea of course. That sounds like such a cool idea, and it'd suck to see it go to waste! ;v;

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ReddRedPanda In reply to BittyKitty1 [2016-03-27 02:11:14 +0000 UTC]

Sure. Go for it.

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BittyKitty1 In reply to ReddRedPanda [2016-03-27 02:28:47 +0000 UTC]

Nice!! Thank you! ;0; I'll send you the link when I finish the first chapter, if you like!

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ReddRedPanda In reply to BittyKitty1 [2016-03-27 02:29:56 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome. That'd be awesome.

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TammyOfTheHorizon [2015-11-27 14:23:59 +0000 UTC]

They look sooo nice! What program did you use?

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ReddRedPanda In reply to TammyOfTheHorizon [2015-11-27 16:20:27 +0000 UTC]

Nothing fancy. Just paint. I can't afford anything nice atm.

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Vritra-Rising [2015-10-24 06:27:53 +0000 UTC]

I think this is a fantastic theory.

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ReddRedPanda In reply to Vritra-Rising [2015-10-24 15:38:20 +0000 UTC]

Thank you.

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