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Next up is the guy who replaced Nominus Prime, Infinitus, or as he's more commonly known, the IDW version of Sentinel Prime.In the toys, Infinitus is Sentinel's Titan Master partner. Titan Masters, for those who don't know, are similar to Headmasters in that they are small robots who transform into a larger bot's head, only they also serve the function of piloting and controlling the MUCH larger Transformers known as Titans, like Metroplex and Trypticon and the like.
To explain Infinitus' story, let me explain the two ways in which Headmasters have worked:
1. Hasbro (West) - a partnership is formed between a Transformer and a smaller, often organic being, who is cybernetically-enhanced to be able to transform into the larger TF's head, and the TF cannot transform into robot mode without them as a result.
2. Takara (East) - there is no partnership at all, and it's just that a smaller bot controls a larger body they form the head of.
Hasbro's "Titans Return" toyline obviously goes the partnership route with the Titan Masters, but IDW's take went the Takara route, where they control larger bodies, some of which they steal from other Transformers, and even fed on the larger TF's spark.
Infinitus used to serve Nexus Prime, but after the Thirteen left Cybertron, he remained on the planet and followed the Thirteen's teachings. Eventually, he used his Titan Master abilities to snag himself a larger body, and worked his way into being the "head" of the Cybertronian senate's security forces under the alias of Sentinel. After the Senate assassinated Nominus Prime, they placed Sentinel as the new Prime under the lie that he had Matrix Affinity. From there, Sentinel enacted the will of the Senate, who used his security forces to bully the populace, which eventually led to the Decepticon Uprising, and Sentinel seeming died at the hands of Megatron. Unbeknownst to everyone, Infinitus had left his larger body, and was working in secret to make a comeback that would purge Cybertron of all those he deemed unfit for "his" world. This attack involved a horde of dormant Titans as it turned out. Fortunately, he was stopped, but the Titan attack still happened, though it was stopped by the combined efforts of Windblade and friends.
For the TFA backstory, I'd have Infinitus Prime as a Matrix successor to Nominus after the latter was assassinated by a rogue group Cybertronians, and try to succeed where his predecessor failed in trying to maintain order on Cybertron, only for his efforts to be thwarted by a force of invaders from other worlds. The results in his death, and the Matrix being passed to his final successor.
For this, I used Animated Sentinel for the body, Optimus for the head, and Starscream's blasters. The rest is based on Sentinel's Titans Return toy, which was a mixture of his IDW design and the classic Astrotrain.
From my understanding, the whole "Sentinel is an asshole" thing got started with Animated, and before that, he was just presented as the guy who preceded Optimus before dying by Megatron's hands. And from what I heard, the whole reason that Animated made him a jerk in the first place was because Hasbro didn't want the show's creators and producers to use Rodimus as the jerk. To be honest, I like that move, as having Rodimus be the jerk would've just been bad fanfiction.
Up next is Sentinel's IDW successor and the one before Optimus, Zeta Prime.
Let me know what you think in the comments below.
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Comments: 62
RexBlazer1 In reply to ??? [2018-06-24 18:29:01 +0000 UTC]
More or less I do it myself, though I do draw a bit from the designs of the other characters.
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Oracledk [2018-06-13 19:57:03 +0000 UTC]
In IDW he's basically like the wiki said he's Richard Nixon lol
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SupernalGodzilla02 [2018-05-29 10:57:28 +0000 UTC]
I think Sentinel kind of acts like Gaston from the beginning of Beauty & the Beast. It's clear that he has the skill to become an Elite Guard but his ego clouds his judgement. He does believe he's doing the Autobot's best interest. But again, his chin sized ego.
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RexBlazer1 In reply to SupernalGodzilla02 [2018-05-29 11:02:28 +0000 UTC]
That may be the case with Animated Sentinel, but afterwards, all subsequent versions of him have been getting worse and worse.
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ZER0GEO-Arts [2018-05-27 03:17:05 +0000 UTC]
This is a very good design of him even for a douche prime.
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RexBlazer1 In reply to ZER0GEO-Arts [2018-05-27 03:20:13 +0000 UTC]
Thanks, and yeah, being a douche seems to be Sentinel's schtick anymore. Although, he was originally made that way for Animated because Hasbro didn't want the creators of the show putting Rodimus in that role. To be honest, though, I'm glad they didn't have Rodimus be the jerk since that would've been more like a bad fanfic.
Still, though, ever since Animated, Sentinel's been getting consistently worse in his portrayal.
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ZER0GEO-Arts In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-05-27 03:30:14 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I guess I'm glad for that too.
Though between you and me, I prefer Sentinel Primes movie and WFC versions better. Even though he did betray them in the movies, he was still better plus voiced by Nimoy. Can't say no to that. XD
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RexBlazer1 In reply to ZER0GEO-Arts [2018-05-27 03:31:03 +0000 UTC]
True, and the WFC version did at least TRY to do some good.
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RexBlazer1 In reply to ZER0GEO-Arts [2018-05-27 03:37:44 +0000 UTC]
What do you think of the IDW story and the one I thought up for him in TFA?
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ZER0GEO-Arts In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-05-27 03:53:01 +0000 UTC]
I think it's very fitting for a bot that doesn't follow him, they get killed. A self-righteous douche.
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RexBlazer1 In reply to ZER0GEO-Arts [2018-05-27 04:09:51 +0000 UTC]
How would you handle Infinitus' story?
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ZER0GEO-Arts In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-05-27 04:10:59 +0000 UTC]
You mean how I would put him in Animated?
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ZER0GEO-Arts In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-05-27 05:09:26 +0000 UTC]
I'm not familiar with him, so I wouldn't know but I would probably have him assassinated by Dread my TF OC assassin.
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RexBlazer1 In reply to ZER0GEO-Arts [2018-05-27 05:12:22 +0000 UTC]
And to think, I had that kind of thing happen to his predecessor, and Infinitus is killed by invading aliens. Heh.
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ZER0GEO-Arts In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-05-27 06:16:21 +0000 UTC]
Really? Coincidence maybe?
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RexBlazer1 In reply to OptimusV42 [2018-05-26 20:51:32 +0000 UTC]
Thanks, and what do you think of the whole "Sentinel's always a jerk" thing?
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OptimusV42 In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-05-26 20:52:50 +0000 UTC]
What do you mean?
Maybe you can give me some examples?
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RexBlazer1 In reply to OptimusV42 [2018-05-26 20:56:29 +0000 UTC]
As I said in the description, the whole "Sentinel is a Jerk" thing started with Animated. After that, he was the villain of DOTM, and in the Aligned Continuity, he was presented as an incompetent ruler of Cybertron with discriminatory policies and not a true Prime, and then IDW retconned him into being a scheming villain with destructive plans and prejudicial views of his fellow Transformers.
Before all of that, he was just presented as the guy who led the Autobots before Optimus and died so OP could be the next Prime.
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OptimusV42 In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-05-26 20:59:07 +0000 UTC]
Oh… I think I get it.
I've never been so much a fan of when a character practically becomes a walking cliché, which Sentinel seems to have become.
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RexBlazer1 In reply to OptimusV42 [2018-05-26 21:03:41 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, that he has. The thing is, the only reason Sentinel was turned into a jerk for Animated was that Hasbro didn't want the creators of that show to put Rodimus in that role.
Although, if I'm being honest, I'm glad that Hasbro didn't let them make Rodimus the jerk since I don't think Rodimus is worth all the hate he gets, and having him be an unlikable douche would've just felt like a bad fanfic.
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OptimusV42 In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-05-27 00:21:26 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, that's true.
In all honesty, I wouldn't have minded if they only had Animated Sentinel as a jerk, but having every single version of him be like that… That's just too much.
And besides, his role in DOTM is just another example of the biggest flaw with the movies… They always underplayed Megatron. I don't know about you, but to me, Megatron should be the driving force of evil in the story. Having him as a secondary villain or a minion really hurts his entire persona.
And, I must say… I've never noticed that Rodimus is getting any hatred. Why would he deserve any?
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RexBlazer1 In reply to OptimusV42 [2018-05-27 00:33:05 +0000 UTC]
Could be because the jerkiness left a lasting impression and everyone thinks that's his default personality, not realizing or not caring that the different versions are allowed to be...different.
Yeah, it does seem as though Megs got the short end of the stick in the films, although one could argue that it's part of a trend in Hollywood where each new film in a series has to have a new villain, and having it be the same one all the time could get boring. Still, what it comes down to is the execution.
As for the hate that Rodimus gets, it's admittedly gone down a bit as time has passed, but there are still a number of people who hate Rodimus for one reason. In the 1986 film, The Transformers: The Movie, the original G1 film, where Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime was introduced, he tried to help Optimus in the latter's final fight with Megatron, but all it did was create an opening for Megs to fatally wound Prime. As a result, people hate Hot Rod/Rodimus because they believe that he indirectly killed Optimus (even though it was Megatron who pulled the trigger). As I said, though, this has gone down as time moved on, and the fact that Optimus has died and come back to life so many times has softened the blow quite a bit. However, there're still those who are bitter about it and won't let it go.
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OptimusV42 In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-05-27 00:56:35 +0000 UTC]
And as for Megatron in the movies, the thing that always annoyed me about the portrayal of him, is that we never really got to know him very deeply. He felt very superficial, and more aggressive than clever.
In the first movie, he was overshadowed by Sector 7.
In ROTF, he was overshadowed by The Fallen, whom he could have betrayed and taken the command from, but he never did that.
In DOTM, he's overshadowed by Sentinel Prime, and gets torn apart by Optimus Prime. (By the way, that's not the Optimus Prime I know. He's not a merciless killer, in my eyes.)
In AOE, he gets turned into Galvatron, but he is still overshadowed… This time by Lockdown, a simple mercenary.
And in TLK, he's finally overshadowed by Quintessa, who seemingly manages to brainwash both him and Optimus Prime.
I mean… Come on! Megatron is the leader of the Decepticons, for Primus' sake! He should be the main villain.
Sorry for maybe taking this a bit too seriously, but this is just how I feel. I understand that trend of having a new villain in every new movie, but the big mistake with these films, was that they didn't even have him as the main threat in the first movie. The is an unforgivable mistake, if you ask me.
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RexBlazer1 In reply to OptimusV42 [2018-05-27 01:07:15 +0000 UTC]
I think another part of the way the films handled him has to do with this quote in a review I saw a while back that compared the TF films to other film series.
"Yeah, but those were all meant to be just one film until the studio forced them to turn them into trilogies."
And as a result, they had to milk the TF lore for stuff to pad it all out with.
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OptimusV42 In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-05-27 01:09:34 +0000 UTC]
Yeah. That was a very big mistake.
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OptimusV42 In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-05-27 00:45:23 +0000 UTC]
Okay… I started to suspect that it had with that scene from the 1986 movie to do.
Well, for those who say it's Hot Rod's fault that Optimus died, I just have one thing to say… Give it a rest, you guys!!! Hot Rod was a very young Autobot back then. He couldn't have known that Megatron would have taken advantage of his actions. He followed his heart, not his brain, which is something that any youngster would do. So, please, give him a break.
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RexBlazer1 In reply to OptimusV42 [2018-05-27 00:49:11 +0000 UTC]
You would think, but some people just don't know when to let go of something.
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OptimusV42 In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-05-27 00:58:56 +0000 UTC]
Tell me about it.
This is even common in my other interest… My Little Pony. I mean, there are still those who believe that Princess Celestia is a meanie. It's been toned down, yes, but there are still those who can't let go of it.
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RexBlazer1 In reply to OptimusV42 [2018-05-27 01:00:23 +0000 UTC]
And from what I've heard, they take her actions out of context as well, which is a real face-palmer.
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OptimusV42 In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-05-27 01:05:21 +0000 UTC]
Exactly.
I mean, they still believe she banished her sister Luna to the moon, on purpose, even though we got to see it in season 4, and got to see that she was all teary eyed when it happened. Clearly, she didn't want to do it, but she had no choice.
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RexBlazer1 In reply to OptimusV42 [2018-05-27 01:09:04 +0000 UTC]
That's what happens when you only pay attention to one part of the story or just jump the gun and stick your own headcanon.
Reminds me a bit of how TF fans like the idiotic woman Raksha are about the Decepticons.
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RexBlazer1 In reply to OptimusV42 [2018-05-27 01:14:17 +0000 UTC]
Here's a profile for her on the TF Wiki if you want to know more, but she became famous in the TF fandom and got a lot of people to support her views of the original cartoon. Namely that the Decepticons were an oppressed minority driven to acts of terrorism by their Autobot oppressors and were, in fact, the actual "good guys." This, of course, ignores a lot of things that render that view as stupid.
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OptimusV42 In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-05-27 01:19:10 +0000 UTC]
My goodness… How can she miss the obvious so badly?
Because clearly, the Autobots were the underdogs of Cybertron, since they were not built for war.
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RexBlazer1 In reply to OptimusV42 [2018-05-27 01:25:27 +0000 UTC]
No kidding. And there're a number of fans who share her views. And the thing is, this view actually went on to influence future versions of Transformers, where things got more and more greyed out.
Often in fanfiction, this view goes hand-in-hand with these two tropes:
1. Ron the Death Eater - a canon protagonist is turned into a terrible person by the writer either because the said writer does not like the character, or because the writer wants the canon villain he/she likes to seem better by comparison.
2. Draco in Leather Pants - a canon antagonist is written more positively by the writer either because the writer finds him/her attractive or due to misplaced sympathy or both, and the character's negative qualities are either downplayed or outright ignored.
They're so named because of their tendency to happen to Ron Weasely and Draco Malfoy, respectively, of the Harry Potter Franchise. As such, I hate both tropes.
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OptimusV42 In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-05-27 01:30:21 +0000 UTC]
I know what you mean… I mean, I'm all for the villains having a reason for doing what they do, other than just being pure evil, but it still needs to be clear that their actions are still wrong.
Even if they feel oppressed, there shouldn't be any excuses for them to do what they are doing. After all, harm is still harm, no matter how you like to justify it. (That's something I learned from none other than Jean-Luc Picard.)
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RexBlazer1 In reply to OptimusV42 [2018-05-27 01:43:53 +0000 UTC]
Indeed. It's something that fans of all franchises need to realize. Just because someone may be sympathetic or tragic, that does not make him/her a good person. Plus, there's also what Linkara said about the main villain of Power Rangers Time Force when he reviewed the show:
"One of the things that people have said about the series to me is the fact that Ransik is so sympathetic. Except, he isn't...at all. Ransik isn't some glorious freedom fighter trying to help mutantkind have better lives. We're not talking about Magneto here. Ransik just wants to cause general anarchy, chaos, and destruction. He NEVER talks about trying to make things better for mutants, nor do we ever see any evidence that he's anything other than a criminal. We don't really see why that is, either. Now he says that it's because humanity shunned him, but that's completely contrary to the flashback with Frax. A human displays IMMENSE kindness to him and provides a treatment for his condition, caused by a fellow mutant I should add, and what does Ransik do? Laughs that the guy's a fool and burns down his lab with the intent of killing him. There's a difference between having a sympathetic backstory and actually BEING sympathetic. Ransik has a sympathetic backstory, shunned for being different. However, his consistent behavior completely justifies people's fears about him."
Sorry that that got lengthy, but I think you get the point.
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OptimusV42 In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-05-27 01:48:19 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I really get the point.
And, I would actually like to point out, that in the first X-Men movie, Magneto isn't really that much better. He claims to be the saviour of all mutants, and yet he is not willing to sacrifice his own life for other mutants, but instead transfers his powers to Rouge, and let's her do it for him.
That's pretty much like Ransik, if you ask me.
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RexBlazer1 In reply to OptimusV42 [2018-05-27 01:53:55 +0000 UTC]
That's definitely one way to look at it.
BTW, in a fanfiction that I've been writing, "A Marvel Transformation" (a TFP, Marvel, & DC in-universe crossover), you won't see me using X-Men characters for multiple reasons. I can tell you if you're curious.
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OptimusV42 In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-05-27 01:55:41 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I would like to know.
I'm very interested in why certain decisions are made in literature. So, I would really like to hear your reasons.
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RexBlazer1 In reply to OptimusV42 [2018-05-27 02:05:32 +0000 UTC]
Okay, here are the reasons I'm not using the X-Men in my fic:
1. I've lost interest in the X-Men in last few years, although I did like the Deadpool and Logan movies.
2. There're like a trillion characters in that part of Marvel alone.
3. And this is the big one; when you think about it, putting aside the science and lore of the X-Men and mutants alike, their whole oppression schtick doesn't make sense at all in the Marvel Universe. To quote Linkara again:
"What, super soldiers created by the government are okay, but mutants aren't? The Fantastic Four get mutated in space, but they get a free pass from hatred and fear? Hell, a lot of the dumber events in the Marvel Universe can get traced back to the X-Men. The Superhuman Registration Act (Civil War) is just an extension of the Mutant Registration Act." He goes on to list other examples I won't bore you with.
Additionally, I saw a video a while ago by the Alternate History Hub (good channel BTW), where the main guy explored the idea of what things might be like if the X-Men's mutants were real. He doesn't include the entire lore of the Marvel Universe associated with it, just the idea of people being born at random with superpowers. The conclusion he came to was that the situation from the comics would be inverted, and the mutants would be the ones running things because they're on a different strength and power level than normal humans, who would be little more than a slave race.
And overall, the whole prejudice aspect has been overplayed, and it falls apart when you take the above into consideration.
See what I mean?
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