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Description Well, here he is, the 13th Prime.  As I said previously, this character is a figure of both mystery and...controversy, and not without reason.

Like Megatronus, the 13th Prime's name was forgotten by history.

In the Aligned Continuity, he was the uniter who brought his brothers and sister together to defeat Unicron.  After the Age of Primes ended, the 13th Prime gave up his life to ignite the Well of All Sparks, the fount from which all Cybertronian life was subsequently birthed, only to emerge from the Well reincarnated without his memories as Orion Pax, who would later go on to become Optimus Prime.

IDW's take on the matter is less clear since there, the 13th Prime is known only as "The Arisen," and while many have come to believe and claim (without a given reason) that Optimus Prime is this legendary figure, Optimus himself doesn't believe in such things.

Personally, if it was me writing the story and if Hasbro absolutely HAD to have an Optimus Prime in the Original Primes lineup, I would've done it differently.  Namely, have 13!Optimus and present-day Optimus be completely separate characters, no resurrection, reincarnation or reformatting involved, and with the latter getting his name from the former, much like how Megatron got his name from the Fallen, thus making the two leaders mirror each other.

Now, you may have noticed that I keep saying "Original Primes" instead of "Thirteen Original Primes."  The reason is that the membership of the group has fluctuated throughout the years.  Both this guy and the ones I've done thus far are the members of the Thirteen for the Aligned Continuity, Hasbro's canon list which has since been used consistently throughout the major media.  As such, I intend to do the alternate members from other versions as well, some of which you've already seen with the members of the Guiding Hand who aren't Primus.

Up next is a group picture of the Aligned Original Primes followed by the pictures of the alternate members.

Let me know what you think in the comments below.

Edit: The controversy surrounding Optimus' inclusion in the Thirteen is that not everyone is on board with the idea.  Some feel that it perfectly embodies how larger than life Optimus is while others think it destroys the message of Optimus being a normal 'Bot who rose up to lead his people in their time of need.
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Comments: 119

Solarzilla In reply to ??? [2019-03-22 21:13:41 +0000 UTC]

About how Optimus is the Arisen.

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RexBlazer1 In reply to Solarzilla [2019-03-22 21:15:16 +0000 UTC]

Oh, you mean the whole "reincarnation" thing.  As I said in the description, I wouldn't have gone that route and instead have left them as completely separate characters unrelated to each other aside from Primehood.

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Solarzilla In reply to RexBlazer1 [2019-03-22 21:24:09 +0000 UTC]

Interestingly in the Bayverse, Optimus was a descendant of the Primes but was orphaned and hidden away with no knowledge of who he was.

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RexBlazer1 In reply to Solarzilla [2019-03-22 21:39:42 +0000 UTC]

Don't know if the ideas are connected or not, but if it's a coincidence, it's an interesting one.

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Solarzilla In reply to RexBlazer1 [2019-03-22 21:47:22 +0000 UTC]

I'll probably go with the recreation one in my universe mostly since its the most recent.

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RexBlazer1 In reply to Solarzilla [2019-03-22 23:36:43 +0000 UTC]

That so?  I would just do the namesake if I absolutely HAD to have the "Optimus is a 13 Member" thing.  If I had a choice, I would just have someone else in the role for the 13th Prime, like the Last Autobot.

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Solarzilla In reply to RexBlazer1 [2019-03-22 23:46:07 +0000 UTC]

Actually Arisen's name will kinda have a plot point.

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RexBlazer1 In reply to Solarzilla [2019-03-22 23:50:48 +0000 UTC]

I would hope so.

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Solarzilla In reply to RexBlazer1 [2019-03-22 23:58:26 +0000 UTC]

The only clue I can give is that Arisen's true name ends with, al.

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RexBlazer1 In reply to Solarzilla [2019-03-22 23:59:59 +0000 UTC]

Is it a character from previous versions of Transformers?

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Solarzilla In reply to RexBlazer1 [2019-03-23 00:06:31 +0000 UTC]

All I can say is that the plot point will have a part in Beast Wars and Beast Machines with Onyx Prime's support.

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RexBlazer1 In reply to Solarzilla [2019-03-23 03:11:00 +0000 UTC]

I see.

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Gobstop123 [2019-03-16 20:42:36 +0000 UTC]

Hi. I'm working on videos about Transformers Animated Season 4 and would want to know if I can use this in a video. I promise to give credit.

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RexBlazer1 In reply to Gobstop123 [2019-03-16 21:53:35 +0000 UTC]

Sure, and thank you for asking.  Though I would like to know the premise for which it's being used first.

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Gobstop123 In reply to RexBlazer1 [2019-03-16 21:56:36 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for responding. It's for a Transformers Animated Season 4 video that i'm about to work on. It would have been a flashback to when Optimus receive the Matrix before becoming the leader of the Autobots.

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RexBlazer1 In reply to Gobstop123 [2019-03-16 22:00:51 +0000 UTC]

I presume then that you're taking a few liberties with the lore?

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Gobstop123 In reply to RexBlazer1 [2019-03-17 01:42:01 +0000 UTC]

Kinda,yes.

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RexBlazer1 In reply to Gobstop123 [2019-03-17 01:45:55 +0000 UTC]

Well, yes, you can use it, just be sure to let me know when the video is up, and let people know where you got it from.

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Gobstop123 In reply to RexBlazer1 [2019-03-17 01:47:14 +0000 UTC]

Ok

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leivbjerga In reply to ??? [2018-11-02 22:54:18 +0000 UTC]

He's More Like Orion Pax

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RexBlazer1 In reply to leivbjerga [2018-11-02 22:54:56 +0000 UTC]

You mean the way he looks?

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leivbjerga In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-11-02 22:56:16 +0000 UTC]

Okay

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CreeperMaster343 In reply to ??? [2018-10-21 14:17:55 +0000 UTC]

I like it for Aligned since that continuity seems to have a more mystical feeling than the other universes anyway, so I think it works for aligned but no other continuities should use the idea and just keep it exclusive to aligned IMO

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RexBlazer1 In reply to CreeperMaster343 [2018-10-21 15:24:44 +0000 UTC]

Well, to each their own.  If you like it, more power to you.

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Grim-Supreme In reply to ??? [2018-06-18 21:25:00 +0000 UTC]

I think it's good to put Optimus in part of the 13. I like the part that the chest looks like it's space.

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RexBlazer1 In reply to Grim-Supreme [2018-06-18 21:31:47 +0000 UTC]

Well, not everyone's on board with the idea.

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Grim-Supreme In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-06-18 21:39:27 +0000 UTC]

Im fine with it.

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RexBlazer1 In reply to Grim-Supreme [2018-06-18 21:40:11 +0000 UTC]

To each their own.

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Grim-Supreme In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-06-18 21:43:21 +0000 UTC]

Ok.

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Oracledk In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 20:55:56 +0000 UTC]

I'm not a fan of Optimus being the 13 I'm fine with him being related to him like Megatron is often depicted as being a descendent of Megatronus or Liege. Though the whole 13th rebirth thing I used as just religious belief some transformers have and not really based on any fact.

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RexBlazer1 In reply to Oracledk [2018-06-13 20:57:58 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, when it comes to the comic version of that, that kind of came out of nowhere for me.

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Oracledk In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-06-13 21:00:28 +0000 UTC]

Yeah it felt like “well Hasbro says it like this so add!”.

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RexBlazer1 In reply to Oracledk [2018-06-13 21:02:36 +0000 UTC]

Not to mention, with the way things have been set up by John Barber and James Roberts over at IDW, it feels as though they're just crapping all over the mythos in favor of political agendas.

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Oracledk In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-06-13 21:03:11 +0000 UTC]

Agreed.

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RexBlazer1 In reply to Oracledk [2018-06-13 21:06:09 +0000 UTC]

Probably a good thing that the IDW universe is coming to an end.  That's not to say that it didn't have its good points, it just had plenty of bad ones to go around as well, particularly ones that can rub you the wrong way if you're into the mythology of the Transformers.

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Anicomicgeek In reply to ??? [2018-04-26 05:34:55 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I'm not that fond of Optimus being the reincarnation of one of the originals, either--though ironically, a slim majority of who voted in a poll I posted last year.  Nice design, though.

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RexBlazer1 In reply to Anicomicgeek [2018-04-26 05:46:37 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, and yeah, they probably should've thought it through better.

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Anicomicgeek In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-04-26 05:53:28 +0000 UTC]

The only reason I can think of as to why they did it was because they thought it might make a good contrast to have Optimus be one of the originals reincarnated compared to Megatron being a pretender to the throne, given the whole "Megatron naming himself after the Fallen" thing.

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RexBlazer1 In reply to Anicomicgeek [2018-04-26 06:05:58 +0000 UTC]

Well, that is one possibility.  I did discuss it once with another guy, and he came up with two other possibilities:
1. They felt bad about killing off Optimus (again) in Predacons Rising and used the nature of the Thirteen to get around the whole "Killed Off For Real" rule that TFP had.
2. They planned on releasing a toyline based on the Thirteen, and having Optimus in it would boost sales.

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Anicomicgeek In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-04-26 06:06:44 +0000 UTC]

Those would probably explain it, too.

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RexBlazer1 In reply to Anicomicgeek [2018-04-26 06:06:57 +0000 UTC]

Indeed.

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ArrogantVengeance In reply to ??? [2018-03-09 08:50:58 +0000 UTC]

Awesome. None other than 'The Arisen'.

I too have mixed feelings about the identity of the Arisen... Even if he's not the Optimus we all know so well, he might as well be like his long lost 'father' (and I don't mean that in a genetic sense, either), since they share many personality qualities and some significant life events.

Imagine that, though...if Optimus and Arisen were the same, maybe history could have repeated this reincarnation with Megatron and the Fallen? I know this is not canon at all...but I'm pretty sure some people have attempted fanfics with this premise.

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RexBlazer1 In reply to ArrogantVengeance [2018-03-09 12:39:47 +0000 UTC]

Thanks.

A lot of people I’ve spoken to about it tend to prefer them as separate beings altogether, with only one exception, but that’s another story. Regardless, everyone has to wait and see what happens when IDW reveals what the deal is with the Arisen.

Funny you mention that reincarnation thing with Megaton and the Fallen. I think I once saw someone suggest that in a mocking way. Haven’t heard of or seen any fanfics that did, though.

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ArrogantVengeance In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-03-09 16:57:46 +0000 UTC]

Well they better reveal what the deal is with him before they end of the IDW comics continuity next year... But no matter what they decide, I don't think every fan will be completely happy. And like you said in that journal post of yours, they need to fix their Optimus Prime comics.

Oh, I'm pretty sure at least one exists...but I probably won't ever find it (I doubt even my excellent lurk skills can help me there). It's such a minute detail/idea, that I doubt fanfics will outright mention it in their summaries (as well as Optimus being the Arisen too, although that will be much easier to find), but I'll keep looking regardless Because I find that dynamic fascinating. If Megatron cannot be the Fallen reincarnated...then perhaps the thing that I mentioned about being a 'descendant' is much more likely. There have been Transformers that descended from the 13 Primes, after all.

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RexBlazer1 In reply to ArrogantVengeance [2018-03-09 17:08:49 +0000 UTC]

Agreed on both counts, plus, a lot of the time at IDW, a lot of the characters tend to be unlikeable in the comics, with the majority of them acting like angry jerks or pushovers, and there aren't that many I can say that I like.

Technically speaking, all Transformers are descended from the 13 Original Primes and are patterned after them in some way or another.  If you want further details on that, I'd suggest checking out the TFWIKI page on Reproduction.

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ArrogantVengeance In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-03-09 17:26:46 +0000 UTC]

They try to make them all more 'multi faceted', but sometimes they fail the characters while doing so...pretty much.

Oh, I know. But I meant for Megatron specifically to be a direct descendant of the Fallen (and that that's why he shares traits, name, and personality with him).

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RexBlazer1 In reply to ArrogantVengeance [2018-03-09 17:30:46 +0000 UTC]

There's more than one way to add depth and layers to characters, including ways that _don't_ make them look like, if you'll pardon my language, assholes.

I understand.  Funny thing is, in the Marvel G2 comics, Megatron was said to be descended from Liege Maximo.  I'm guessing that that may be due to the fact that at that point the Fallen hadn't been invented yet.

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ArrogantVengeance In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-03-09 17:33:28 +0000 UTC]

Lol true... And if some characters 'need' to be assholes, at least make that believable enough...

Oh right...there's that. But now, I see more someone like Starscream being descended from Liege Maximo than Megatron...

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RexBlazer1 In reply to ArrogantVengeance [2018-03-09 17:42:50 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, and when it comes to IDW's portrayals, they swing too far in one direction for my taste.

True.

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ArrogantVengeance In reply to RexBlazer1 [2018-03-09 17:54:27 +0000 UTC]

Yea, not really much of a 'grey area' is displayed now, and if it is the build up is 'mediocre to ok'. Not great or excellent...

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