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Published: 2015-08-05 20:13:08 +0000 UTC; Views: 106311; Favourites: 2975; Downloads: 0
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If you're seeking realism GO ON YOUR WAY. You've been warned, all comment stating : that's not realist will be deleted.If you're commenting without bothering reading the description, maybe I should delete your comment too ?
I'm pretty patient, but not to the point of answering the same question 10th time, okay ?
Looks like some people didn't bother to look for part 2 :
Once and for all : the normal or Average CHANGE DEPENDING THE COUNTRY YOUR FROM.
Something could be skinny for you but normal for others. On the contrary what you consider normal could be considered fat by someone else.
I'm especially talking to those affected by countries invaded by Junk Food.
THIS IS WHAT I ( and french doctors ) CONSIDER AS THE NORMS : Woman : 1m63 and 63kg ( Men: 1m75 and 77kg ) . It's the average of the woman population etablished by INSEE ( national institute of statistics and economics studies )
It also vary from each individual depending on your education.
Now that this is done, I've made that "chart" because the difference in what my commissioner ask and what I understand can be a problem.
- Model : What I use for fashion design.
- Normal : What I'm usually asked for and go for.
- Meaty : That's what I call chubby, plump and the kind. It's NOT fat. I always start by adding "fat" on the hips and thighs, that's were woman usually start to store it but it depends on your character metabolism and genetic
- Athletic : I'm not really into drawing athletic women. Breasts are lump of fat, your characters are unlikely to have huge breast if they do lots of sports but it also depends on the sports, metabolism and genetic.
Those are the "base" of each category. When you can start seeing the difference between all those.
If I feel like it then I'll develop each category , although I won't go into extremes
Don't repost, don't trace ect ... If you wish to use those as base it's only for non-commercial work and you HAVE TO credit me.
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Goodness gracious, I must be a morbedly obese walking land whale if I set foot in France. XD
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Amazing, if only I could draw body forms like that. Damn you anime!!
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Ces formes sont plutôt sympa. On voit bien les différences entre chaque corps. ^^
C'est impressionnant le nombre de personne qui ne comprenne pas qu'un artiste décide de ce qu'il a envie de dessiner, en particulier quand cela concerne l'anatomie. Courage Rika ! ^v^
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Argh, je ne comprends ce qu'il font ici si il n'aime pas ce qu'il voit donc la communication ne peut qu'être compliquée. Et aussi, je ne demande jamais de critique car j'aime comprendre par moi même si quelque chose est faux ou peut-être améliorer. A force de le dire je ne pensais pas encore avoir de probleme de ce genre.
Mais ne t'en fais pas, je suis ferme sur mes positions alors leurs mauvaise humeurs ne m'affecte pas
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Ahah, effectivement ! Cela m'est arrivée aussi, j'ai eu tellement de mal à expliquer à un ami que je ne voulais pas faire de réalisme et que j'ai envie de me débrouiller seule, à trouver le style qui me plaît. Si je veux une critique, je la demande. xD
Tant mieux alors, mais je sais que cela peut être vraiment fatiguant et agaçant à force. ^^
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Bah j'ai l'habitude vu que ça m'arrive souvent. En faite ça me rends plus triste pour eux qu'en colère XD
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Whoop, forgot to add this to my references folder. It really is nice and helpful
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I thought "heavy" said "healthy and i was like ??
Is this for fashion design?
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mostly yes, can be used that way.
ust drawn this 'cause I'm waiting for my contest to end and I was bored though ><
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humm. people who judge those anatomy poses only by comparing it to their own body, or their two or three friends bodies will probably tell you INSEE is all wrong with it's calculations anyway. Nevertheless it is always kind of sad to see people not seeing the differences in anything. That might mean that the world consists of a triangle, circle and a square in the end. Well. But at least. You have a wall of opinions, comments and tips.
Nice job with the bodies by the way.
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True, people not seeing differences actually makes me sad for some unknown reson.
But people only thinking everything is "mondialized" in one way makes me even sadder. Well you've put it in better words than me XD
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Wow, the "Model" one looks like a caricature of my body type XD
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Mine too! Glad I'm not alone!
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Tiny bodies and waists FTW "D
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The only reason I saw this post on the "What's Hot" page is because of how controversial your post is. Basically, everybody's reaction to your forms is deviantArt in a nutshell. If they don't agree, they've got to let you know for some reason.
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well, if they don't agree no one oblige them to stay XD
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That is a very positive attitude to take!
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yup, it's better for my health too XD
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The third one's the only one that's different. At least give the athletic one some broader shoulders XD
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The athletic one could also use more muscular bi/triceps..
Like Dear Ryoku said, it seems very specific what kind of athleticism they are referring to
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As a person who does Martial Arts, I don't have that much of shoulders; actually these are really tiny; only my legs are really toned and wider. So, the athletic form of someone depends on what sport she/he do >v<
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Looking through your gallery, you have such wonderful art and style and a bit more diversity... which makes me wonder if this particular piece was meant as a joke of some kinda...
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As I said in the desc : "Those are the "base" of each category. When you can start seeing the difference between all those."
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I think their might be a language barrier perhaps because I do not know what you mean by base and category.
What base are you talking about, to be specific. You've left that description far to open for interpretation.
I can already see, they are the same exact body type, except for a very SLIGHT difference in the waist, and major differences in the legs, specifically the calf and hip range.
That and the bone structure if you want to get technical since the though gap is not attributed to weight, but how wide set hips are apart, so the hips in each are different which really is the only thing separating them all.
The boobs are slightly different in each.
I don't see chubby despite you saying there is chubby. Large legs does not equal chubby, chubby is defined by chub being evenly distributed everywhere.
Large hips is actually a body type, they call it the Pear Shape, although like all body types they have varying different names between cultures.
Athletics type no matter what, is going to have more muscle, thus athletic, so there should be LESS boobs than the first.
To be honest, it really looks like you used a single base, TRACED it and than just changed minor details but there is no real body type (which is expected since you already explained these are cartoon bases andnot realistic) but I see no difference in body forms.
Which is weird, considering after viewing this, I looked at your gallery and I can tell you are capable of far more than this and are far more talented than this, which is why I felt like you did this as a joke.
What kind of base exactly do you mean, because, they are all the same minus a few details(hips, calves, waist is pretty much the same SHAPE only made larger so it doesn't look ridiculous, which is good, and then the boobs) , and what exactly do you mean by category because they are all the same with minor differences in only certain areas meaning only CERTAIN areas would be considered a different category, not the whole body form.
Another thing I noticed was the definition line on the stomach, and the collar bones, which is the only real detail you added to kind of separate them further.
I just do not understand this. Was this a tutorial, or just you working on trying to take one base(typical anime form) look different? If so, I see in your pictures you've already done varying body types way better than this, which again, makes me feel like this wasn't a serious work from you.
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Also, don't forget the title of this deviation. I won't draw something I don't want to
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You are strange, no one said not to draw. Reading comprehension will help you with that.
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the base is the start.
And to be frank, I stopped reading half-way. Don't expect me to translate all this at once.
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blocked me ? Well sure. I don't care.
When I have answered the same questions over and over again, I don't want to answer it anymore.
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It's funny how they didn't read the description and still complain of them looking similar.
I love your version of the body forms. Each different in their own unique way
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yeah, and calling me rude when they are the rude ones
Thank you
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Rude, but ok. I will remember never to like or comment your stuff again thank you for showing me your true colors, have a wonderful day.
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You said to her, "What base are you talking about, to be specific. You've left that description far to open for interpretation."
Did you not even read the description?
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..i guess you can see some differences...
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These look similar, but not the same. It's interesting to see what are considered the norms in other countries. From what you have described, what the French consider a "normal" physique would be considered a body shape for those who have a naturally small/slim build and/or have a high metabolism. The "meaty" physique is more of the average body shape for American women (except their would be a bit more fat on the arms and maybe the breasts and/or stomach).
The "athletic" build actually looks more like what models here in America look like; they have a very exaggerated runner's build, to the point that it looks too unhealthy. French models seem slim, but not necessarily to the point that they look like they're not eating solid food at all. Since athletics are so big in the US, there would be various norms for athletic builds (i.e. Runners and dancers are very slim, while wrestlers and weightlifters would be extremely muscular.).
This is very interesting. Thanks for sharing~
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no problem, it's always nice to share that kind of things. Indeed French women have small built ( at least in the south of France ) with a good metabolism. Although junk food is starting to cause problem and change the norms a bit, we still maintain a good "form" as French are still worried about what we eat.
I for example am petite and limit under the norm even tough I can eat half a pizza for lunch by myself XD
I modeled the athletic after my sister who do lots of sports
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I'm sure that most Europeans' diets are at least somewhat healthier than the average American's diet. I'm jealous that you can eat that much pizza without worrying about your weight XD I could never look petite, but that's probably because half of my ancestry is German and the other half is Italian XD I've also always had large breasts since I was 13-14 years old, no matter how much I weighed (That's not a German stereotype at all, is it? 
Ah, ok! She must be mainly a runner then (or that's my guess). Models here in the US are skinny like runners, but they really don't have muscles (just the right amount for someone to survive with, I guess). They're so skinny and tall that they're bones are showing. There are "plus-size" models in the US too, but they can be sizes 10 to 14, which is the average for American women and not considered morbidly obese.
I saw your second piece in this little series, and it gave even more insight. I guess I would be considered borderline-morbidly obese in France XD That's not near what is considered morbidly obese here in the US. There's a lot of people, who weigh over 400 pounds (181.44 kg)!! I'm not fine with my weight, though; I'm trying to change that. I've been working out regularly and watching how many calories I consume, but I still gain weight. Of course, I believe that that is a medical problem and am trying to find out what it is, but a test is taking so long to come back with the results!
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Man, do I wish I could draw anatomy like you...
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they do all look very similar. They're nice though. To me the "heavy" one looks the nicest over all until you get right past the knees, her shins at the widest point are thicker than her thighs. I know your not going for realism, and I can tell by the "exaggeration",and is well done, but the shin way throws me off with the entire thing.
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As I said in the desc : "Those are the "base" of each category. When you can start seeing the difference between all those."
If I feel like it then I'll develop each category , although I won't go into extremes
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All the people saying "They're all the same" must be blind.
The general shape of the body ( shoulder - waist - hips proportions ) are indeed the same, but that's not what matters here :0 what matters is the quantity of fat/muscles
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