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Description I belated realized that this meme was intended just for characters from cartoons, anime and manga, but that seems more than a little limiting to me, so I modified it slightly to suit my purposes.  Anyway, I got the idea to do this from J-Cat , who expanded the parameters to not just include fictional characters, but historical figures and whole groups of people as well.

As always, I'm pretty indecisive when it comes to picking my top ten anything, so this list is potentially subject to change.

Please forgive me if this gets a tad wordy, but some of these characters are pretty obscure, and it may take some effort to explain who they are and why I dislike them so intensely.


10.  Anthony (aka Blandthony) Caine from the comic strip For Better or For Worse by Lynn Johnston

When I see people bashing TV shows they hate, I wonder why they even bother to continue watching them in the first place if they hate them so much.  However, that may be a little hypocritical on my part, since I kept reading For Better or For Worse well after it became obvious it was a total train wreck, and got my enjoyment from seeing other dissatisfied readers snark on it on a daily basis.

For much of its run, I considered For Better or For Worse to be a mostly inoffensive comic strip- the only thing that bothered me was the way dandruff flew off people's heads when they were yelling or surprised.  But in the last several years of its run, things really
seemed to go off the rails.  The direction Lynn Johnston took the strip aggravated a lot of readers, and arguably the most wrong-headed storyline was the one involving Anthony.

If you don't know, the strip followed the lives of the Patterson family, and Anthony was the former high school boyfriend of oldest daughter Liz.  Anthony was a real "nice guy" who got married to a horrible, career-oriented woman named Thérèse, whose sole purpose was for the cartoonist to display her scorn for women who have the audacity to think there's more to life than being barefoot and pregnant.  Thérèse didn't want kids, but nevertheless had one for the sake of Anthony, on the condition that he be the one to stay home and take care of it.  Even though he agreed to this arrangement, he was still somehow surprised when she didn't change her mind after the baby was born.  Sure, she was not likeable, but only because she was written as such a straw-feminist.  Johnston even retroactively blamed Anthony's ugly pornstache on Thérèse once she realized readers were making fun of it.

Thérèse was presented as being unreasonably jealous of Anthony's supposedly platonic friendship with Liz.  Actually, her jealousy wasn't so unfounded after all, as was made abundantly clear when Anthony started whining to Liz about how he still had feelings for
her.  And when exactly did he choose to spill his guts?  Moments after Liz had almost been raped.  In a totally contrived plot device, dorky Anthony was allowed to play the hero and save Liz from her attacker, though he totally undermined any good will that might have generated by immediately bitching to her about his failing marriage, grabbing her by the shoulders and pleading with her to wait for him.

Meanwhile, Liz's parents wouldn't shut up about how great Anthony is. Well, of course they liked him- he was basically a clone of her dad.  When Liz protests that she has a boyfriend, they're like, "Where is he now?"  Uh, he lives hundreds of miles away working as a cop, you asses!

Liz had started life as a teacher in a new town, but abruptly decided to give it all up and move back in with her parents, coincidentally not long after Anthony's divorce.  She didn't even tell her cop boyfriend she was moving until after he'd arranged a transfer to be closer to her.  A couple months later, Liz went back to visit her boyfriend and found him with another woman, which was obviously Lynn Johnston's way of fixing it so Liz wasn't the bad guy in the relationship, even though she'd already done everything but break up with the guy.

Readers were obviously meant to be rooting for Liz and Anthony to get together, and I'm sure some did, but a lot of us weren't buying what Lynn Johnston was selling.  The inevitable pairing was orchestrated in such a forced way, it really turned me off.

Johnston's entire premise seemed to be that the one true way to be happy is if you marry your childhood sweetheart and settle down in bland, suburban existence, just like your parents.  I'm not saying that that's bad for everyone, but the handling of that message really rankled.  Some have speculated that Johnston wasn't happy with the choices her actual kids made, and since she couldn't tell them what to do real life, she could at least control the lives of their analogues in the comic strip.

There was one strip in which Anthony showed Liz the fenced-in playhouse he'd built for his daughter in his basement.  If she'd tried, I don't think the cartoonist could have come up with a creepier or more apt metaphor for the life Liz was choosing.

I could go on and on, but you're probably bored already.  But, if by any chance you're interested in learning more, read the essay called "Why I Hate Anthony by Shaenon K. Garrity, which describes the problem with the character and the comic more eloquently and thoroughly than I could:    shaenon.livejournal.com/29475.…

9. Delilah from the movie The Locusts

I don't actually remember this movie super well; I'm not even sure I saw all of it.  It was a wannabe Steinbeckian tragedy starring Vince Vaughn as Clay, a drifter who gets work at a ranch owned by Delilah (Kate Capshaw).  Delilah's son Flyboy(Jeremy Davies) was traumatized when his father committed suicide due to Delilah’s infidelity, and now he only speaks to his pet bull.  Clay befriends Flyboy and begins to coax out of his shell, but Delilah resents it when her son shows signs of independence.

Now, here's the scene I remember vividly and the reason this woman is on my list:  In order to teach Flyboy a lesson, Delilah has one of her brutish ranch hands tie him up and then she forces him to watch as she castrates his beloved pet bull, which subsequently dies.  Not exactly mother of the year material.  Things only get worse from there. It was truly one of the most depressing movies I've seen.

8. Mary Tilford from The Children's Hour

This spot was previously occupied by Nurse Ratched, but like I said, this list is subject to change.  I was having a little trouble coming up with characters I really hated, and Nurse Ratched seems like such an obvious choice, but I don't really have super strong feelings about One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.  Then today, I happened to catch part The Children's Hour on TV and was reminded how much I loathed this little brat, who destroys two women's lives with an untrue rumor.

7. Robert Kinsey from Stargate SG-1

If this short-sighted and corrupt politician (played by Ronny Cox) had had his way, the human population of Earth would have been enslaved and/or wiped out a couple times over.

6. Alixis from the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode Paradise

I hate this woman worse than any other villain in the nearly fifty year history of Star Trek.  More than Kai Winn, more than Khan, more than the Borg. You get the idea.

In this episode, Commander Sisko and Chief O'Brien beam down from their runabout onto a planet that they realize too late seems to be generating a field that renders their technology non-functional, leaving them stranded.  A colony of humans has been living on the planet for ten years after their ship malfunctioned.  They’ve been able to survive largely due to the de-facto leadership of Alixis, who, conveniently enough, even before being marooned, had been espousing the belief that reliance on technology has caused humanity to lose its way.

Sisko clashes with Alixis, who does everything in her power to persuade him and O'Brien that attempting to find a way off the planet is futile and that they should resign themselves to a life of spiritually-fullfilling, back-breaking manual labor in her community.
Even when one of the colonists is fatally poisoned by an insect bite and Sisko insists that if they could get to the runabout, the medical equipment on board could save her life, Alixis is against it.  When all other methods of bending Sisko to her will fail, she resorts to torture.  Ostensibly as punishment for the crime of "wasting time," Sisko is locked in what is essentially a sweatbox, which Alixis hopes will force him to see things her way.

Whaddaya know?  It ultimately turns out that Alixis sabotaged the ship the colonists were on ten years ago, and the field that prevents their technology from working was the result of a piece of technology she'd had hidden on the planet ahead of time.  Then she has her son try to kill O'Brien before he can inform the colonists of this discovery.

What makes this episode incredibly frustrating is that in the end, once the truth is revealed, none of the colonists opt to leave with Sisko and O'Brien.  They don't even seem to be as angry as they should be- in fact, they don't seem especially angry at all.  The consensus seems to be that Alixis may have done a bad thing, but they're all better off for it- well, except the ones who are dead because they were denied access to life-saving medical technology.  Heck, they may even turn the tech-nullifying device back on once Sisko and the others leave.

Where the fuck is the righteous indignation?  This lady stranded them and allowed people to die so she could be the dictator of her own personal utopia.  She's a goddamn hypocritical, murderering cult leader and has turned her followers into brainwashed sheep.  The serene, self-righteous smile on her face as she's taken into custody and beamed up is beyond sickening.  The only comfort I have is knowing that she undoubtedly was in for a looong prison sentence.

5. The Murderous Moppets (aka the Pupa Twins) from The Venture Bros.

I love The Venture Bros., but these guys are not funny at all; they're just a couple of perverted, psychopathic little creeps.  What makes it worse is how blind Dr. Girlfriend is to how horrid they truly are, instead treating them like they're her precious babies.  If anything bad happens to them in the fifth season, I'm glad, but don't tell me because I haven't seen it yet.

4. Lana Lang from Smallville

This is another of those occasions where I think there is a big disconnect between the creators and a large chunk of the audience.  I'm pretty sure we were actually supposed to like Lana Lang, but I know there was a lot of hate for this character.  Lana's primary function on Smallville appeared to be to make Clark Kent feel like dirt for keeping secrets from her, which was even more annoying given how many times he'd saved her life.  Besides which, she ended up keeping plenty of secrets of her own, which made her a big hypocrite.

Long past the point Clark should have gotten over her, the writers kept finding ways to bring them back together.  In fact, they seemed to think that the only plausible way Clark and Lana could ever be apart is if she got turned into a walking piece of kryptonite.  It's like they forgot that Lois Lane is supposed to be the love of Clark's life.

3. Bob and Mayella Ewell from To Kill a Mockingbird

I shouldn't have to say much about these two, since the book and the movie are so famous.  It's hard to say who is worse.  I guess Bob is, since he attacked the Finch kids with murderous intent, but both he and his daughter are contemptible racist scum for accusing an innocent man for a crime he didn't commit.

2. Mason Verger from Hannibal

I'm specifically referring to the TV show version of this child-abusing daddy's boy, as played by Michael Pitt.  What he did to his sister made me ill.  It was very satisfying to see him get his gruesome comeuppance.

1. Dolores Umbridge from the Harry Potter series

Bigoted, sadistic fascist.  What made Umbridge so insidious was, like a lot of the villains that get my goat, she masked her horrible nature under a phony veneer of pleasant reasonableness.  At least with Voldemort you knew where you stood.


Dishonorable Mentions:

I thought of a couple more characters that I really detested.  Not enough for a whole new list, but they were bad enough that I really wanted to include them somehow.

Frank Hallett from The Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane

The Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane is a great film (I keep meaning to read the book on which it's based), and Frank is one creepy bad guy: a sadistic pedophile who stalks a Rynn, a lonely young teenage girl (played by Jodie Foster in the movie).  'Nuff said.  I'd be remiss if I didn't also make room for Mrs. Hallett, Frank's nasty and imperious mother, who uses her clout to ensure her son's predilections don't land him in jail while also poking her nose where it doesn't belong.  Luckily, Rynn turns out to be more than capable of taking care of herself.

Tim Watters, Karen Farris and the rest of Red Squad from the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode Valiant.

I personally consider DS9 to be the best Star Trek spinoff, but it also produced a couple bad episodes with some of the worst characters to ever appear in the entire franchise.  Perhaps it's no coincidence that both episodes happen to be about charismatic and dangerous cult leaders with an army of brainwashed acolytes behind them.

In the episode "Valiant," civilian Jake Sisko and Ensign Nog run across Red Squad, a group of elite cadets that were on a training mission aboard the starship Valiant when the Dominion War broke out.  Behind enemy lines and with the officers dead, pill-popping cadet Watters takes command of the ship and, visions of becoming the youngest war hero in Starfleet history dancing through his head, decides to conceal the truth of their situation from Starfleet and keep fighting the war instead of heading back to Earth, even though it's pretty clear that there's nothing stopping them from doing so.  Unfortunately, his overconfidence is shared by just about all of Red Squad, who blindly follow Watters to their ultimate destruction- a tragic example of the Dunning Kruger effect on a ship-wide scale.  

While Watters probably deserves the brunt of my hatred for getting his entire crew killed, if I'm being honest, out of that entire group of arrogant, delusional douchebags, the one I detested the the most  was Watters' second in command, Karen Farris.  There is a certain word I'd really like to call this girl and it doesn't start with a b, but rather the letter after it.  That's right, a Cranky Sue.  Stuck-up, snide and heartless (and maybe even a racist, considering the way she glared at Nog), Farris was a thoroughly unpleasant character.  I'm sorry that her death was quick; I really wanted to see her crying for her mommy and daddy at the end.  It would have been poetic justice after she practically mocked one of her underlings for doing the same thing earlier.  Actually, I'm sorry all but one of the members of Red Squad perished before it could fully sink in just what a terrible idea it was for a bunch of inexperienced, snot-nosed teenagers to take command of a starship and pretend to be soldiers.  Maybe they didn't deserve death, but they sure deserved to be knocked down several pegs and maybe even booted out of Starfleet altogether.


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Comments: 50

ManiacalDude [2018-03-17 05:55:33 +0000 UTC]

I'm not really a For Better Or For Worse fan, but I have heard how loathed Anthony is. It makes me wonder how Lynn Johnston reacted to all the scorn this whole story arc received, if she was even aware at all.

Also, totally agreed with villains like Dolores Umbridge, the kind that mask how horrible and loathsome they are with a phony facade of pleasant reasonableness or another similar demeanor. These are the kind of people that deserve a good hard punch to the face. I'm not even really a Harry Potter fan (though my sister is a big time fan), and I'm STILL aware of what a wretched bitch she is.

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rocketdave In reply to ManiacalDude [2018-03-17 15:59:10 +0000 UTC]

Lynn Johnston was asked in an interview about the hate-on a lot of people had for her strip and she stated that she thought those people needed to "get a life" (and yet, she did clumsily try to retcon at least a couple things readers had criticized).  On the one hand, I can kind of understand her frustration that her life's work had become the subject of so much negativity.  I mean, why can't people focus their energies towards things they like instead of what they hate?  On the other hand, I think For Better or For Worse had a lot of bad messages in it that were worth attacking.  Also, I think some of the people who had been reading the strip a long time might have felt betrayed when they started to realize how bad it had gotten, so I can't blame anyone who felt passionately about the subject.

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ManiacalDude In reply to rocketdave [2018-03-17 18:51:08 +0000 UTC]

Clearly, Lynn Johnston didn't seem to realize that not everyone would agree with her beliefs or the messages she was trying to convey and tried her hardest to force them onto her own creation without seeing the potential downside of such a thing.

I just realized upon looking back that I had previously commented on this deviation before. My bad.

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rocketdave In reply to ManiacalDude [2018-03-18 00:17:03 +0000 UTC]

That's okay; I can't blame you for forgetting; I didn't remember either.

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J-Cat [2016-11-18 17:46:23 +0000 UTC]

I wouldn't say Mayella is racist like Dad. But she tried to seduce a married man because of her abused, loveless life (getting beat up by Dad); not to mention committing perjury 'cause she's scare of her Dad

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rocketdave In reply to J-Cat [2016-11-19 06:55:48 +0000 UTC]

Mayella might not be racist in the same way as her dad, but I'm not sure she isn't a racist.  I feel a little bad for her, but it doesn't make her actions less horrible.  She doesn't seem to think much about destroying Tom's life in order to save face.  As Atticus argues, she's not committing perjury just out of fear of her father, but so that she can erase the evidence of the taboo she's violated.  

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J-Cat In reply to rocketdave [2017-04-15 18:52:07 +0000 UTC]

She tried to tempt a married man out of love she never had - that drunk-ass bastard

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jimsupreme [2015-12-13 04:48:24 +0000 UTC]

whew... none of my characters are on the list... though, I have few people hate

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rocketdave In reply to jimsupreme [2015-12-13 05:03:30 +0000 UTC]

Heh.  Well, you have created some pretty loathsome villains, but I guess none affected me quite strongly enough to make it onto my list.  

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jimsupreme In reply to rocketdave [2015-12-13 05:31:21 +0000 UTC]

i must fix that in the new series... lol

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jungle-king [2015-11-26 19:13:14 +0000 UTC]

to be honest #1 is the only one i recognize

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rocketdave In reply to jungle-king [2015-11-26 23:13:36 +0000 UTC]

I don't blame you for not being familiar with most of these... except for To Kill a Mockingbird.  If you don't know To Kill a Mockingbird, I invite you to hang your head in shame.  

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jungle-king In reply to rocketdave [2015-11-30 00:46:37 +0000 UTC]

I forgot about them. Sorry

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Kurumi-Lover [2015-11-24 03:50:21 +0000 UTC]

I highly agree with Dolores Umbridge wholeheartedly. She is the reason it took me so long to finish the 5th book, in all honesty. And I mean that I didn't finish the 5th book until last year (after buying it when it first came out), where I in turn finally finished off the whole series. But she is seriously the worst thing in all literary history to me. I'm heated for real over here haha.

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rocketdave In reply to Kurumi-Lover [2015-11-24 05:00:50 +0000 UTC]

I hope it wasn't too difficult resuming the series after such a long break.  My memory is so crappy, if I were to resume reading a book I'd put down twelve years ago, I'd probably have to start over from the beginning.  Coincidentally I just recently read a couple Star Trek books from a series that was first published in 97, the same as Harry Potter, and the last one I'd read before taking a break was published in 2003, the same as The Order of the Phoenix.  I had a very hazy memory concerning much of what had gone on before.  At least the Harry Potter books are popular enough that you can find pretty detailed plot synopses online if you feel lost.    

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Kurumi-Lover In reply to rocketdave [2015-11-24 05:40:08 +0000 UTC]

Oh no, I definitely had to restart. I couldn't remember anything except how much I hated Dolores. When I was finally finishing it off, though, I had days in between reading because I would get so upset reading the book, that I would just bookmark it and leave it alone until I didn't feel like tearing it apart. I mean, Harry, didn't help out much, but Dolores was the worst.
I was actually really upset that the final book didn't reveal her fate and it took Rowling addressing it elsewhere for me to find out.
My biological father used to read a lot of the Star Trek books, but I don't remember much other than they were ST.

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rocketdave In reply to Kurumi-Lover [2015-11-24 06:09:47 +0000 UTC]

After reading your first comment, I was reminded that I was upset by the very same thing; I really wish her comeuppance had been revealed in The Deathly Hallows.  At least Rowling wrapped things up a little better than the lady who wrote the books upon which the show True Blood was based- she had to put out a whole other book after the last one, describing what happened to everybody, which most of her fans decried as a shameless cash grab. 

I don't really read a lot of Star Trek novels, though I guess I've read more than the average person.  They used to all be standalone stories because they had to take place in between episodes, but they started incorporating more continuity between books a while back, and now it's more challenging for a casual reader like me to just pick up any random book and start reading.  

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erosarts [2015-11-23 14:12:18 +0000 UTC]

You updated this in some way.  So I'm going to leave a comment about Lynn Johnston.  Not that long ago I read a forward she wrote for one of the "Definitive Peanuts Collections" in which the only thing I took away was this, "I used to talk to Charles Schulz on the phone all the time and he thought I was a great cartoonist, writing a strip of considerable importance."  Yes, she wrote a piece about Charles Schulz (he might as well have been some dead guy who drew some characters once) where the she tells us about how much he affected her life by telling her she and her comics strip were awesome.  I will remember that about her much more than I will any of her strips.

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rocketdave In reply to erosarts [2015-11-23 18:29:25 +0000 UTC]

Schulz was probably just calling Johnston up to ask if he could borrow the superfluous t from her last name because his needed one.  

Lynn Johnston always seems to make a big deal about her friendship with "Sparky" Schulz, even inserting the occasional shout out to him in her strip.  The most bizarre one I recall was a December Sunday strip in which April and her friends go into a video store to rent a Christmas movie, but all they can find are Christmas-themed slasher flicks and raunchy comedies, so they go home and watch A Charlie Brown Christmas instead.  On what planet is it impossible to find a family-friendly Christmas movie that's free of homicides and boobs?  Sorry, I know this is really not pertinent, but that comic still bugs me years later because it seems to show just how out of touch Johnston is with reality... that, and the other comic in which a twenty-something refers to "those Transformers" as "goofy monster things."

To be somewhat fair to Johnston, if one of the most famous cartoonists in the world told me they liked my work, I might have a hard time not bragging about it.  But I agree that it's pretty classless to make it all about her when she's writing an intro to a collection of his strips.  

I have Schulz's biography- it devotes a few pages to his and Johnston's friendship.  When she told him she was going to kill off the dog in her strip, he told her if she did, "I am going to have Snoopy get hit by a truck and go to the hospital, and everybody will worry about Snoopy and nobody's going to read your stupid story."

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erosarts In reply to rocketdave [2015-11-24 16:50:27 +0000 UTC]

I can't really remember anything about "For Better or Worse."  I think the dog was named Farley, though.

I do know that it was the top front comic in the St. Paul Pioneer Press when I lived in Minnesota, and did most of my growing up.  Which meant the comic page started on strip #2 for me.  Which was Garfield as I recall, and it was still better than FBW.  And why would that strip have been #1 anywhere?  It wasn't funny.  How can you make a living on the comics page with an unfunny comic about "values?"  Of course, Prince Valiant isn't funny either and every "serious" comicker in the world seems to adore that crappy thing.

Mostly I'm reading the entire Peanuts strip to my daughter when we have "bored" times around the house (we're up to 1987).  Bored times are any time she hasn't got friends to play with and has caught up on mandatory activites, like homework.

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GamemasterFel [2015-11-23 00:22:38 +0000 UTC]

On the bright side, at least *everyone else* in the Venture-verse hates 'em as much as you or anyone else does. 

To quote Sgt. Hatred:

"God, I hate those creepy little bastards!"

And then there's the Monarch threatening to feed 'em to the dogs. 

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rocketdave In reply to GamemasterFel [2015-11-23 00:31:18 +0000 UTC]

True.  Even Dr. Girlfriend declared that they were getting on her nerves after a while.  I remember Jackson Publick and Doc Hammer expressing puzzlement over just how much some of the fans seemed do dislike the Moppets, but I think they admitted later that they'd started to understand it.  

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GamemasterFel In reply to rocketdave [2015-11-23 00:37:44 +0000 UTC]

And remember, when Dr. Girlfriend expressed this bit of frustration? The Monarch's reaction was to clasp his wife's shoulders, big grin on his face, and say he was never more aroused in his life. 

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rocketdave In reply to GamemasterFel [2015-11-23 00:49:09 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, that was a great moment.  

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TheDarkNeon [2015-11-22 23:13:53 +0000 UTC]

I'm sorry...But I Mustn't tell Lies....

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rocketdave In reply to TheDarkNeon [2015-11-23 00:14:20 +0000 UTC]

heh.

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coredumperror [2015-11-22 23:12:29 +0000 UTC]

The only characters I recognized on your list were Lana, Umbridge (100% agreement on putting her at #1), and the uniforms (if the not the faces) of those Red Squad characters. And I actually didn't dislike Lana. So I haven't got much to say about your list, specifically.

I don't watch TV any more, and I go to see relatively few movies, so I don't really know anywhere near enough hateable characters to develop a list like this. But I did watch the first season of Glee (mostly because I was living with my parents at the time, and they loved it, so I kinda had to watch it...). But the one thing on that show that actually left an impression was that terrible excuse for a human being whose name I don't even remember: the cheer-leading coach. What a flaming super-cunt.

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rocketdave In reply to coredumperror [2015-11-23 00:12:53 +0000 UTC]

I don't want to say I was criticized for compiling a list like this in the first place, but someone I won't name has remarked to me a couple times now on how strange it is to them that I could actually care about a work of fiction enough to feel strongly about the characters one way or the other.  I will say that I initially found it challenging to think of ten characters that I hated sufficiently to put on this list.  There are a lot of villains and just plain unlikable characters out there, but only a tiny fraction have really gotten under my skin.  I just saw this meme and thought it would be a fun thing to do.

I actually kind of liked Sue Sylvester (that's the name of Jane Lynch's character from Glee).  She became somewhat less terrible and more human from the first season onward.  As the show went on, I believe she eventually stopped being an antagonist altogether, though I'm not positive, since I lost interest in Glee and stopped watching after the second season.

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coredumperror In reply to rocketdave [2015-11-23 02:19:37 +0000 UTC]

Ah, yeah. I only saw a few episodes of Glee from season 1, so I never saw Sue's character growth. Oh well.

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ManiacalDude [2015-11-22 04:04:16 +0000 UTC]

Why you hate Dolores Umbridge is one of the reasons why I hate Lotso from Toy Story 3. He masks what a horrible, wretched jackass of a toy he is with a nice guy facade. At least at first.

I've heard a lot of people bitch about Anthony, but since I'm not a FBoFW fan, I don't exactly know why. Though considering what I've heard from fans and from FOOBAR, they clearly must have reasons for not liking him.

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rocketdave In reply to ManiacalDude [2015-11-22 06:02:02 +0000 UTC]

I wouldn't really describe myself as a For Better or For Worse fan.  It was always just sort of there as I was growing up.  It was only after a very long while that I started to notice just how much I disagreed with the choices the cartoonist was making and I came to discover that there were many other people out there who also passionately hated what had become of the strip.  

Lotso was pretty bad- I didn't like him one bit- but I guess he doesn't inspire the same seething anger in me that most of the people on my list did.
 

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Jdailey1991 [2014-10-27 01:33:53 +0000 UTC]

Such a strong choice.  Regardless, you detailed your reasons most perfectly.  I've a list of my own, a little share for share:

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CartoonyStuff [2014-09-25 06:14:14 +0000 UTC]

what makes umbridge a worse villain than voldemort is that shes very relatable. dont get me wrong, voldemort is a pretty bad guy. but hes more like that dictator you hear on the news. but umbridge is that mean teacher you had to deal with in school. she encompasses every condencending, manipulative and cold-hearted aspect of a person who hits too close to home.

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rocketdave In reply to CartoonyStuff [2014-09-25 06:44:54 +0000 UTC]

Well said.  You're not too likely to encounter a supervillain like Voldemort in your everyday life, but unfortunately, people like Umbridge are all too common.

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MDetector-5 [2014-08-21 01:16:18 +0000 UTC]

What a nice, well put together list. I do believe you've told me about Anthony, though.

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rocketdave In reply to MDetector-5 [2014-08-21 03:16:28 +0000 UTC]

Probably.  I can't help ranting about that guy, every so often.

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erosarts [2014-07-08 23:04:47 +0000 UTC]

Also: the protagonist in "A Serious Man."  That's probably the closest I've ever come to thinking: "Man.  That poor guy."  I can't imagine a more hellish life-scenario.

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erosarts [2014-07-08 23:03:13 +0000 UTC]

I'm kind of amazed by your ability to summon up enough energy to care this much about characters.  I always view characters as vehicles for telling a story, and find myself unable to feel anything for them; if their story doesn't interest me, I couldn't possibly care less about them.  Which prompts me to wonder if I am the strange one, or if the "artistic" community on this site is where the irregularity is.  Most critics must find themselves in my boat, surely, but still...  this level of involvement alienates me.  And, tying this into your most recent journal... I doubt most serial killers are able to feel this much towards real OR imaginary people, so I think I'm safe in feeling that you will never wind up on a "Most Wanted" list.  This probably isn't backed up by any popular criminal profiling methods, but I don't buy into that crap anyway.

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rocketdave In reply to erosarts [2014-07-09 00:07:33 +0000 UTC]

If you think this is amazing, you should see the gallery of the person that I credit for giving me the idea to compile my own personal "most hated" list- she's done like twenty of these things. Honestly, I actually had a difficult time coming up with even ten people. Sure, there have been plenty of characters I've disliked, but very few where I felt so strongly about that I could say I actively hated them. I can remember a few times when a character made me so angry that I felt like punching the TV or whatever, but looking back on it, while I remember the anger, most of the time I can't recall who or what it was I was even watching at the time. Having said that, I don't think it's that weird to get emotionally invested in a story or fictional characters. Even if I have problems with a story, if happen to stick with it, it's probably because I like spending time with those characters. A lot of the time, though, I don't understand how certain people can get so worked up over a work of fiction. I mean, it's happened to me, as evidenced by a handful of examples from my list, so maybe I don't have a right to say this, but I feel like some of those people really need to step back and chill the heck out.

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erosarts In reply to rocketdave [2014-07-09 00:26:07 +0000 UTC]

Then, given this reply, I feel the need to share with you how I feel most of the characters people feel the deepest involvement with are the ones that are so sketchily and basically developed (mostly with clichés and stereotypes -- and I do not care what people say about character development)  it allows them to believe they "know" that person and they can predict the future actions of that character based on what they, themselves, would do in a given situation.  When fans flip out, it is not the failure of the "canon" writers to write in character, it is the fans' inability to imagine themselves having made a certain decision, because they identified with the sketch of the character, not the character's actual "development" (which I will also put in quotes because I have all sorts of problems with the execution of literary definitions these days).  In short, contrary to what the popular belief is, I think the "best" characters are the ones that have the most left to the imagination of the audience: give them some sort of generic "good" to strive for, and the audience is taken care of.  Well-defined characters will alienate more people than they will appeal to, because every time you give a character a unique trait, it creates another hurdle for the majority of people to clear before they can care.  That's probably just my opinion, but it's what dwelling on the subject has led me to believe.

Of course, on DA, giving a character a unique piece of jewelry is considered "character development."

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Writer-Guy-NC [2014-07-08 00:48:23 +0000 UTC]

I agree with you on #6 and your irritation at that episode.

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rocketdave In reply to Writer-Guy-NC [2014-07-08 03:53:20 +0000 UTC]

I wasn't sure anyone would even know who she is. 

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Dim432 [2014-07-07 14:03:53 +0000 UTC]

I agree with number one she comes across as a bigot and Marget thatcher

And the actress did a spectacular job

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GuyBcaps [2014-07-06 05:51:42 +0000 UTC]

Aw. I always enjoy the antics of the Murderous Moppets.

Also, you really should watch Season 5. Its really good!

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rocketdave In reply to GuyBcaps [2014-07-06 07:50:59 +0000 UTC]

That's good to know. I want to watch it, obviously. I would have already, but I don't have cable and I canceled my Netflix account because I've been using my money for other luxuries like rent and electricity.

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jessicasweettv [2014-07-05 23:29:59 +0000 UTC]

I also hated Lana Lang from Smallville.

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rocketdave In reply to jessicasweettv [2014-07-06 01:45:26 +0000 UTC]

Cool.  

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TiredEspurr [2014-07-05 20:58:12 +0000 UTC]

Every time I see Dolores Umbridge on these lists, I can only think of one thing; "kudos to her actress, though".  

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rocketdave In reply to TiredEspurr [2014-07-05 21:32:16 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, while I understand actors often relish playing villains, it can't be entirely flattering to considered as an ideal candidate to portray a character who is described in such vile terms.  Imelda Staunton was actually better looking that I pictured the character.  As I recall, she did a good job in the role, but reading the book was what left a larger impression on me.

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TiredEspurr In reply to rocketdave [2014-07-06 06:46:22 +0000 UTC]

She really does play Dolores wonderfully well; if her portrayal makes you hate the character even more, that means she's done SOMETHING right XD

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