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Published: 2006-09-13 01:43:11 +0000 UTC; Views: 4282; Favourites: 43; Downloads: 6
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This symbol carries with it a message. What most fail to look at is the baggage it carries behind the facade.The words were not hard to come up with, just took a while to type out and arrange. Feel free to comment.
Edit: Made a few changes. Thanks to =a-neon-devil-breath for the suggestions.
1. Changed "Sex Abuse" to 2 words, it is now "Sexist" and "Abusive"
2. Lightened the background
3. Moved "Cover Ups" to the new row at bottom, in its place are "Bully" and "Punitive"
4. Added "Hoarding" and "Schizophrenic" to new row at bottom
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I don't like schizophrenic being on this list. It's a serious mental condition that people are often born with, and has nothing to do with religion. There are schizophrenic people of every faith and no faith, and they don't need to be marginalized as 'religious crazies' when that isn't true. They can't rewrite their minds to make themselves better. They don't have a choice in it. Religion is a choice. Schizophrenia is not voluntary.
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Awh. I think this was well done, artistically, but It makes me so sad that this is what you think.
I'm sorry if you think Christians are really that messed up. . . I mean, everyone makes mistakes. Continually, eternally, we're all gonna keep screwing up.
But I don't think that you see Christians the right way. It may be way out of my place to say that, but. . . I dunno. A lot of people will openly call themselves Christians and act the complete opposite way a Christian is supposed to act. Please don't think so badly of all Christians because we do have a lot of fakes. If you met a real Christian and understood them, I think you'd be surprised.
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I'm Sorry. But I'm having alittle bit of a hard time understanding what you are trying to get across with this pic. Could you please possibly explain to me what the purpose of this is.
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I absolutely agree with this.
Christianity used to be something beautiful, about the goodness of people, but it has been turned into a hypocritical example of fanaticism by the more foaming of its followers.
Though, I am referring to the Christians who are overly fanatical, I know many people who are Christian, who are actually wonderful, caring people, whose beliefs are beneficial to themselves and others.
And after all that,
Personally,
I am a Buddhist xD
Great pic, I love it when art creates debate, that's what makes it art, or excellent typography in your case
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Thank you for your comment
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At first I thought this was an amazing work of art and briliant use of typography. On second glance I realized it was pretty petty crap.
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you know it depends on what
denomination you look at
bc alot of them do display
traits of hypocrisy and other such things
you have listed
but not all churches.
you will find many ppl who
just say their religious and dont follow it
i find it irritating bc for the ppl
who really do follow it
it makes us look bad
whether it is real or not
for those of us who believe
and aren't hypocrites about it
it just is a guide to being a good person
believing it doesnt waste our lives
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i showed my friend and he put it really well.
Black: Descriptors of people in every race, religion or belief group (including christianity) or culture
Red: Descriptors of Christianity
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i have a relationship with a very real and amazing God. its like a father/daughter relationship. I know what's right and wrong because i've been taught by my "Father". I know that what i do can either hurt or bring joy to God. a person who truly loves God wouldn't use his forgiveness as an excuse to hurt him. As sad as it is to say, you may not have met a true Christian yet. Having said that, as humans we aren't perfect. You don't cease to be a Christian when you fail to do what He commands, only if you fail to even try.
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It means pretty much that you are the ones who are blind. I do not claim to be better than anyone else, beliver or not. Any person, Christian or not can let you down. Thats why we are to focus on Jesus, not people. Have you ever read what He has to say? A lot of people just want a anything goes life so they rebel against God.
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An "anything goes" life? Are you kidding?
If anything it is the religious who can claim that. They can commit any "sin" they wish, ask for forgiveness and be done with it. That is disgusting to me. Because you see, unlike you seem to be, I am actually accountable for the things I do.
Why do you believe what you do anyhow?
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How so if nothing is a sin to you. Christians do not commit any sin they wish like they have permission to do whatever. But being human like you they may backslide. The difference is they feel guilty about it and ask forgiveness. But the idea is not to sin in the first place. I believe what I do because I believe God's word the Bible. And why do you believe what you do?
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I am accountable for my actions because I can tell the difference between right and wrong, just like you. I don't claim to get my morals from the bible however. And I would argue that you don't either. I know your morals are beyond the bible, because you cherry pick it like every other christian on the planet.
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If cherry picking is defending my beliefs, then I guess so. Seems to me you are the one lumping all Christians into one mold, of which you are the expert of course. Since you don't know me you don't know where my morals come from, so argue all you want. So what do you believe,..nothing?
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i wish you could see past your own pride...
Christians ARE hypocrites, just ones who have been checked "free" by the truth of what is Jesus Christ.
Personally, I have never claimed to be better, never claimed to be above anyone... i've only ever claimed to be broken.
I wish that you might see past the bigotry that is what you deviated....
question: what has made you believe all these things that you say about Christians?
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To answer your question, it's because I have actually read, and comprehended the Bible. You should try it sometime.
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Excellent picture, if I might add.
Religion is all blind faith and lies.
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worsheep sacrificial crusades inquisition luxury ambicius intolerance genocide and more that I dont remember
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worsheep, lol. I'm going to spell it like that from now on.
Thanks
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its great and true
but to open eyes?!
are u kidding me majority of people now are filling their heads with bull
that blinds them from the light...maybe hopefully one day they'll wake up and see
lets just hope.
good one keep it up
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i love this piece because it shows how disgusting people act in the name of religion. i have personal experience; my boyfriends dad goes to church and says he's a man of god yet he comes home and verbally abuses all of them.... i know more but their to numerous to name. i just think its completly disgusting and this piece captures it all
oh, and i apologise for my spelling, its horrible!
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It's a sad situation your boyfriend is in. And it happens all to often.
Thanks for your comment btw.
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Simply put, you are an idiot, religion does not control anyone or make them go home and abuse others. I don't know about you but I have control over what I do no matter what i believe in. Your boyfriends dad SAYS he is a man of God, but anyone with common sense can see that he is not.
Mark 12:31 "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself."
Ephesians 5:25 "Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it..."
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Bahaha!
So she's the idiot because her boyfriends dad is a hypocrite? Weird logic you have there.
I have already responded to your other post, and again, you claim special knowledge of all christians. If you wanna shoot off some bible quotes, I have plenty of ammo...
"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." -Jesus Christ.
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i'm sorry, but blaming religion for how a person acts seems to me as pretty arrogant and i'm pretty sure i'm not alone on that one.
your quote proves nothing other than the same thing mine did. if you are trying to say i hate the commenter, you're wrong. why is ok for you to post this picture pointing blame to something that was set up to give people hope, but when i come here to defend it you cannot accept it. your piece is a great idea and i'm sure you knew it would create a huge pile of controversy, but to simply put the blame on one religion is also arrogant.
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Religion does not make anyone act a certain way, it does however give them license, special permission, and encourages specific behavior. You can cherry pick the bible anyway you see fit. Any way you spin an excuse for specific action, it still makes that person hypocritical.
Also, I was not trying to say you hate the commenter, you can hate whomever you like. I was saying that her boyfriend's father is just as justified by the bible to act the way he does based on that quote as he is to act another way. It can be interpreted a thousand different ways, which to me, makes it useless.
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Wonderful and I don't care what anyone has to say about it.
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Kind of late to comment, but...
First point: I totally agree with the term "schizophrenic" being too easily seen as an insult. I am not schizophrenic myself, but I do think there isn't the slightest link between this disease and believing in whatever.
Second: I can't say I agree with the message sent, since I'm Christian myself. I won't explain my personal beliefs in details, but I do agree with you that the Church and man in general has done horrible things in the name of religion. But the principles of Christianity (or other religions since they all look alike to me) aren't to be condemned like that in my opinion. Most of it is about love, peace, behaving, etc...You won't find anything in the Bible encouraging people to rape, kill, steal, wage war...
So, although I respect your view of the whole thing, I think you should make a distinction between religion and what has been done in its name. As I said, the principles themselves are not related with those "flaws". Hopefully you already know that although the artwork is vague on that matter.
And finally: on a neutral, artistic note. A simple yet powerful piece, straight to the point and leads to further thinking. The idea, concept and result are great
P.S. Don't see this comment as aggressive or hateful, I truly am open-minded and respect people who believe in any or no religion. And I am open to discussion if you wish
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Thanks for you comment.
I wouldn't mind a quick discussion.
First off let me correct you on a major point you made.
"You won't find anything in the Bible encouraging people to rape, kill, steal, wage war..."
The Bible is a cornucopia of ideas and doctrines, any of which can used to justify anything. Yes, even rape, war, murder, etc. Lets take for instance these quotes...
Steal- [link]
Rape- [link] (Basically says a man can rape a woman and it does not count as sin as long as he marries her)
Murder- Too many too link, here is a short list. Deuteronomy 17:12, Leviticus 20:13, Leviticus 20:27, Exodus 21:15, Leviticus 20:9, Deuteronomy 13:13-19, Romans 1:24-32, Numbers 1:48-51 (Yes, thats the short version.)
Slavery- A list again... Exodus 21:2-6, Exodus 21:7, Exodus 21:20-21, Ephesians 6:5, 1 Timothy 6:1-2, Luke 12:47-48
(Note that these are not just stories about these things, but orders from God that you should do)
I could go on but I'll stop there.
Because you seem open to other ideas and "...religions...all look alike to me" I think that you are a Christian out of convenience. Your parents are probably Christian, but just think if you had been born across the world, you would most likely be some other religion.
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"Because you seem open to other ideas and "...religions...all look alike to me" I think that you are a Christian out of convenience."
Well I agree on that, 'cause I don't go to church, or practice any ritual. I just pray and believe, and base my life on what I think is good. That's why, for me, religions are similar. You can pray who you want, numerous divinities if you want, to me the main idea is the same: existence of a divine being (on which I know you don't agree, and perfectly understand why) and following virtues.
For me, even the Bible is more or less reliable, as it was written by men. I stick to things said by Jesus, personally, and my own judgement.
Anyway, I don't wanna take more of your time (and mine), anyway I know we will most likely both stick to our beliefs. Thanks for sharing and once again, nice deviation
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Being Christian, I would like to think of it as people faults, political basis on this doing rather than the thing they believe, but I know I sound redundant. I'm not too big on some views of what Christianity has made, but that doesn't make me hate what I believe and the reasons why. It's a real thing to me. I try not to let others come into my world and pervert it, so I'm try to be pretty careful. A few just make a good group or groups of people look bad. No, I'm not trying say anything hateful or anything, just saying, you know...
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That's cool but you have the legend at the bottom wrong.
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I can see how this would be controversial.
But I see the message.
Far too many people (Christians AND others) still do carry around the 'black word' baggage, whether they realize it and are trying with God's help to get free, or don't know, or simply don't care.
And sometimes, I think that Man just isn't ready to accept total absolute forgiveness, or to be able to 'walk in sin no more'. Individuals, yes. As an aggregate... nope.
But that's me.
AAAANyway 
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I think you have mistinterpreted Christ. What Jesus offers is to take away all your baggage, not to give you any. can honestly say i live in freedom. I have no need to worry about "things" because it is all taken care of. it's not about following rules, regulations or doctrine. it is about freedom. that's about it.
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My oppinion is people who believe do not join a religion because they want to join a business, but because they want to worship their God, albeit, many times this philosophy turns sour and it becomes a business (example: mega-churches, though not all).
When you speak of the cost of a religion: To worship (by worship i mean faith and following a religion) is an individuals choice, and no one forces them to make that choice. In my experience, some cannot contain their love for God and can't help worshiping, and I think the only way religion is born is because of this feeling.
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"I want to rid the world of hateful, hypocritical religions."
Three things i want to point out: 1)True christianity is not a religion, it is a faith and belief in Jesus Christ, 2) "religions" have been formed by people and are bound to have inconsistencies (so goes the cliche 'nobody's perfect') and 3) "religions" are not hypocritical, people are.
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1) Yes, yes it is a religion. Religion is a set of beliefs, usually adapted from an ideal, or a text (the bible).
Faith is an aspect of a religion, almost a requirement.
2) I agree.
3) People are, yes. And people believe in these religions even when major aspects to them contradict science. Doctrines are set up to control, religions are essentially businesses gone bad. They have a product (afterlife) and a cost for it (faith, devotion to the idea, submission to control, etc.) The very ideas are hypocritical themselves, as well as the followers.
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Catholicism is the purest form of religion based on Christianity, the belief in Christ, which many religions also practice -- it's a practice, not a religion in of itself. The Bible was not written by Christ or God Himself, therefore it is bound to have contradictions much like the Quran and other books of worship written by man. The Church does not claim to be perfect. True science believes anything is probable -- the purpose of scientific method(to prove something wrong enough times it is right) -- it has never proved religion to be false or that God does not exist. No true Christian sees doing good as a "cost," nor does any decent human being and they are not under "control" of anything other than what they simply believe to be true, as do scientists.
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