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RvBOMally — Across the Shining Sea

Published: 2014-10-14 22:54:42 +0000 UTC; Views: 8615; Favourites: 80; Downloads: 101
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Description Another less plausible one, inspired by America's interest in Japan and Korea prior to the American Civil War. 

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The election of 1860 ended with a Democratic victory under Stephen A. Douglas, just reward for his ability to bring the Democratic Party from the brink of division. As president, he would have to deal with a country that is ready to tear itself apart between North and South, but through compromise and luck, the Union held together. Slavery was allowed in the New Mexico territory, but no further, which placated pro-slavery factions enough to make secession an unwelcome proposition. 

In an attempt to redirect the United States' energies outward, Douglas and his successors dedicated themselves to the expansion of the United States beyond the continent. America competed with the European powers in the colonization of the Far East. After American efforts to take a chunk of the East Indies were rebuffed, the Americans focused their efforts on Japan and Korea, hoping to use them as supply stations for a trans-pacific journey. Traditional elements in both countries attempted to resist colonization, but those few attempts to resist the Americans violently were met with violence in turn. By 1900, both Japan and Korea were reduced to US territories.

The next century would be defined by the rivalry between Britain and the United States. The British were concerned about the expansion of their former colony, and conflict between American-supported Venezuela and the British set the two nations on a path to rivalry. The collapse of the Spanish Empire in Cuba and the Philippines saw the Americans take the former, and the British take the latter. Colluding with the other European powers, the British locked the Americans out of Africa. In return, the Americans supported the Indian Revolution in the 1940s, which ended with the British being forced to let go of their crown jewel and the Americans gaining a new Asian ally. 

In the meanwhile, Europe split itself into two rival blocs, in response to the rise of the German Confederation. War was narrowly averted in 1912, and the European alliance system remains shaky, and a few crises relating to the devolution of the Austro-Hungarian Empire in the 1930s also caused fear of the new USGA's violent dissolution. America and Britain have kept out of European power politics, neither interested in fighting a European war. The invention of nuclear weapons have further delayed war, forcing the rivalry between the Entente and the Triple Alliance, and the British and the Americans, into proxy wars over the collapsing colonial empires.

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Comments: 27

Whiteshore1 [2017-01-02 13:05:41 +0000 UTC]

If a major war breaks out between the Entente and the Triple Alliance, which side will the British ally with and which side will the Americans ally with (assuming they are sucked into the war)?

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wilji1070 [2016-04-30 00:03:51 +0000 UTC]

How are race relations in the USA?

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Whiteshore1 [2016-04-14 01:39:42 +0000 UTC]

How well so Indian Hindus and Muslims get together in the Republic of India?

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BagelBagelBagel [2016-04-12 03:17:06 +0000 UTC]

Are Hokkaido and Sakhalin a single states, or separate? How often is English spoken there?

With the failure of the Republican party to gain power in the 1860s, and the dissolution of the whigs beforehand, has the USA become a dominant party system under the Democrats or has a competing party, Republican or otherwise, emerged? 

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RvBOMally In reply to BagelBagelBagel [2016-04-12 03:39:41 +0000 UTC]

Yes and yes, and everyone has it as a second language. 

A new party has emerged to compete with the Democrats. 

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Eheucaius17 [2015-12-17 00:53:11 +0000 UTC]

also what's with super New Mexico?

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RvBOMally In reply to Eheucaius17 [2015-12-17 00:58:57 +0000 UTC]

That was the original New Mexico territory.

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Eheucaius17 In reply to RvBOMally [2016-05-12 00:17:54 +0000 UTC]

So is Las Ve

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Eheucaius17 In reply to Eheucaius17 [2016-05-12 00:18:20 +0000 UTC]

Sorry... Is Las Vegas part of New Mexico.

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Eheucaius17 [2015-12-17 00:52:04 +0000 UTC]

is slavery still a thing?

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RvBOMally In reply to Eheucaius17 [2015-12-17 00:58:38 +0000 UTC]

No.

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Whiteshore1 [2015-06-08 04:52:58 +0000 UTC]

How did Stephen Douglas become President if he recieved the least amount of votes?

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RvBOMally In reply to Whiteshore1 [2015-06-08 05:34:27 +0000 UTC]

Different outcome of Democratic Party politics.

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RogueLeader1000 [2014-11-01 04:22:02 +0000 UTC]

Why Germany not unified yet? This point of divergence shouldn't have effected German Unification.

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RvBOMally In reply to RogueLeader1000 [2014-11-01 18:24:45 +0000 UTC]

There was a greater French-Austrian cooperation against Prussia. And Bismarck died early. 

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jas09 [2014-10-18 19:58:33 +0000 UTC]

When did the US get rid of slavery in this TL?

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RvBOMally In reply to jas09 [2014-10-18 21:11:31 +0000 UTC]

1880s-1890s. 

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Historyman14 [2014-10-15 10:04:02 +0000 UTC]

Japan will be free!

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PersephoneEosopoulou [2014-10-15 01:37:57 +0000 UTC]

What the hell happened with Ireland ?

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RvBOMally In reply to PersephoneEosopoulou [2014-10-15 01:47:36 +0000 UTC]

Protestant minority disliking the Catholic majority.

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subspaceteatime [2014-10-15 01:34:44 +0000 UTC]

Do my eyes deceive me...a somewhat happy scenario? Quite the feat, Rv! Pretty interesting ideas here, too. What exactly kept Prussia from uniting Germany if Austria is on their side?

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RvBOMally In reply to subspaceteatime [2014-10-15 01:47:51 +0000 UTC]

France.

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subspaceteatime In reply to RvBOMally [2014-10-15 01:50:09 +0000 UTC]

But in 1860 France was incredibly weak, to the point where making the Franco-Prussian War go in France's favor practically requires ASBs. So how would France manage to stop Prussia? Sorry for nitpicking, I'm just a pedant.

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RvBOMally In reply to subspaceteatime [2014-10-15 02:04:48 +0000 UTC]

Prior to France, a stronger Russo-Franco-Austrian alliance (Bismarck died early) kept Prussia's ambitions in check. France got stronger in the meanwhile. Now that Austria is in Germany's camp, the Entente is powerful enough on its own to keep it in check. 

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subspaceteatime In reply to RvBOMally [2014-10-15 02:11:05 +0000 UTC]

Fair enough, thanks for answering!

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TLhikan [2014-10-14 23:21:32 +0000 UTC]

Ooh, interesting.

-Are Japan, Korea, and/or Cuba on the path to statehood, or is the US still too troubled by all the non-whites?

-Would the US/Britain take sides in an Entente/Alliance conflict (or vice versa)?

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RvBOMally In reply to TLhikan [2014-10-14 23:43:03 +0000 UTC]

- They're independent countries 
- Depends on which is more advantageous to join at the time 

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