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Published: 2016-05-18 05:12:49 +0000 UTC; Views: 9474; Favourites: 25; Downloads: 34
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(EDIT: I mistakenly called Prince Mush "Prince Fluff". Oops)If you haven't played a Paper Mario game before, please play either Paper Mario 64, The Thousand Year Door, or Super Paper Mario. Not the impostors that pretend they are Paper Mario games.
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Yknow, I did write a full review on this game. You could probably have seen that instead of something I cobbled together from initial impressions (even if the game still inevitably didnt live up to the standard set by the older titles)
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I'm a Paper Mario TTYD fan, and I still plan to get this game. Even if Sticker Star was a little bit of a disappointment, it was in my opinion still more fun and much more engaging than most of traditional RPGs.
One example that comes in my mind is EarthBound. After playing that game for 8 hours, I was getting bored, and I didn't want to continue, because of the poorly-balanced difficulty (Partners that start at level ONE? SERIOUSLY?!), the very flawed gameplay, and the battles that heavily rely on luck.
I'd rather spend time experimenting and mastering the mechanics of SS's Stickers and CS's cards, rather than wasting several hours grinding plenty of experience over and over and over again just to have more "chance" to defeat cheating enemies and bosses.
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I dont play traditional RPGs. What I do know is the Paper Mario series never had this problem.
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True, BUT REMEMBER: There are two demographics.
1. The young ones.
2. The man children.
Which one do you think Nintendo is going to choose to satisfy?
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Nintendo has a weird habit of trying to do both. Star Fox Zero was clearly an attempt to appeal to the "man-children" but also incorporate motion controls for the kiddies. That didnt go well for a lot of people.
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Prince Fluff is a Kirby character, ad I agree with this.
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I meant Prince "Mush". I got them confused.
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It's good... But how do confuse a Yarn prince with a figher? xp.
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Because they are both "Princes" and have a similar "u" sound in their names.
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1) Didn't pick up on this myself, but now that you mention it I can't stop noticing it.
2) As you admitted yourself with SPM, it's totally possible to have an "action-adventure" Paper Mario that works. So If they want to pass it off as one, whatever.
3) Toads are by far my least favorite Mario characters, on the grounds that they're not even characters so much as obstacles with faces. One of my personal biggest objections.
4) I believe we've seen three lines of dialogue from Huey so far, and all of them seem to fit the obnoxious, possibly bipolar, so-called "personality" of everyone's least favorite Sticker Star curator. RIP.
5) Is this really so much of a problem? If the name is that bad, maybe more people will think twice before buying it, which would be great.
6) Sort of ties in with the appalling lack of plot, but you've got a point.
7) I honestly don't see why this is a problem. I mean, Super Mario RPG used a world map and it turned out fine.
8) There's still two months before release and we already know pretty much the whole plot. If I had to choose one reason not to burn sixty dollars on this game, this would be it.
9) The battle system in Sticker Star was not only amazingly unbalanced but uninteresting and pointless. Apparently this one aims to fix the former at the expense of even more of the latter.
10) Actually, your paint capacity increases as you go through the game. But can this ever replace Star Points? Nope.
11) You know how I mentioned a second ago how the battles in Sticker Star were broken? Here's why. Another major concern of mine.
12) Hey, wait a second, there is no 12. What's up with that?
13) Same old problem. By now, Nintendo thinks of Paper Mario as testing grounds for stupid mechanics they'd be caught dead using in other games, at the expense of everything else.
14) Yep, this is the whole plot. Not sure if you've noticed this, but Sticker Star used generic Shy Guys almost as much as generic Toads. I found it incredibly annoying. And I like Shy Guys.
15) This is the first I'm hearing of this, actually, but man, does it make sense.
16) I never really followed Iwata Asks, either, but I sure heard about it from other real Paper Mario fans raging at it.
Conclusion- Paper Mario: Color Splash qualifies as proof of the existence of Satan.
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I forgot to put a #12.......Huh. Awkward.
Maybe this could be #12 - ryansilberman.deviantart.com/a…
Anyway.
For #5 - My problem is that the titles obviously convey a different, more childish direction than something of a bigger scale.
For #7 - Mario RPG used the world map to keep things moving, which is a good thing. However, I doubt modern Intelligent Systems ever thought about SMRPG when doing the map for Sticker Star. It isn't like SS's map served the same purpose.
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Well I hope you're happy Paper Mario is about to be killed.
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Better for it to be dead than for it to be whatever this mess is
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Oh yeah watch this www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxhs-G… so stop saying that Color Splash is like Sticker Star!
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Such a shame you'd believe in Game Theory.
And Color Splash isn't LIKE Sticker Star. It IS Sticker Star with a literal coat of paint.
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Okay if they do cancel it do say that I told you a-hole.
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That would be great if they canceled it.
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The new standard for Paper Mario games? I lost faith in Nintendo. LISTEN TO YOUR FANS! REPEATING THIS STICKER STAR BULLSHIT IS A BAD IDEA AND WOULD PROBABLY MAKE YOU LOSE MONEY RATHER THEN GAIN IT!
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Well I hope you're happy Paper Mario is about to be killed.
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They still create good games don't they?
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I hope so but they are sucking the life out of the Paper Mario series. They seem to be doing the same to Metroid but I already lost interest in that series.
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You know their we're far worse Nintendo games in the past such as Urban Champion. Also did you see Star Fox: the Battle Begins? It's proof that Nintendo's doing great at making cartoons based on their video games right?
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I never said this is the worst game Nintendo has made.
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Ok then, but still would you imagine a Mario TV being much better and well received than Color Splash?
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You'd think they've looked on the Internet all these years before and saw that people found the older Paper Marios to be the best.
Then again, they're well aware we've been wanting Mother 3 yet haven't released it for us yet.
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I believe there is a fan-made English patch if you really want to play it.
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With the Action-Adventure complaint,
1) They weren't describing the whole Paper Mario series, just this game.
2) Even so, Super wasn't an RPG.
With Toad, we only saw a minute of footage along with saying it's still in development. So we can't just automatically assume "Whoop, they're using generic Toads. Whoopdy-doo."
With the Paint Bucket. I'm not sure how that's a bad thing considering we didn't even bloody seen him SPEAK yet.
And plus, the whole naming issue and script is just the definition of stupid. Why is that considered a problem? Why are you asking for realism with a game with CARTOON graphics?
World Map. Again, how is this bad? You're running out of excus- I mean "arguments" to back yourself up.
Plot. All we know so far is that the colour of Prism Island is getting sucked out of it and Mario needs to save it. We know nothing else. Stop thinking you've played the game already.
Toss Tedium: Just because it's inspired off Sticker Star's doesn't mean it's the exact same. And even so, other games did this before Sticker Star. Like Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories.
Money: WE. KNOW. NEXT. TO. NOTHING. YOU. FUCK.
Things return: How is this bad, I don't know why I'm bothering because you CLEARLY played the game before and what do I know.
Life sucked out: This is just plain nitpicky.
Iwata asked for it: Now you know how it feels to be a Sonic fan. And we are NORMAL INTELLIGENT BEINGS compared to you.
Jesus Christ dude, these are such piss poor arguments. If you hate it, fine but don't whine on the internet with these crappy reasons.
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Super is still an RPG but a lot less of one than the 2 previous games.
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Well, it's more of an RPG/platformer hybrid. But it at least has those elements at all.
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Oooh! I....I actually got somebody mad with power over this. I was kinda hoping viewers would only try and understand the perspective instead of fight it, but whatever. Even with a comment this long, you're making this way too easy for me.
1) "In the Paper Mario series, we always challenge ourselves to bring something fresh to the action-adventure genre" -Bill Trinen
2) Super was good. That was the point of bringing it up.
Nintendo games have historically shown trailers of games that resemble the final product, especially as of late. None of this will change. The last game I can recall that DID significantly change when it was first announced was New Super Mario Bros (back in 2004). Also, a 2016 release date won't let them change
much anyway, unless they delay the game by a few years.
The names for Sticker Star and Color Splash are embarrassingly low-level. Also, there's a difference between "realism" and "a sense of logic and decency". Y'know, like what the original Paper Mario trilogy had.
We know nothing else about the plot because there isn't going to BE anything else. I mention the world map, Toads, Kersti, etc, because all the game does is copy every single aspect that made Sticker Star what it was. Including the no-substance plot that will in no way be expanded upon in just a few months before release. I played this game back when it was called "Sticker Star."
How did you come to that statement about the battle system? I mean, yeah, I know it was a lot like Sticker Star's, but that wasn't why I pointed it out at all. In fact, I said nothing like that about it - Just how much worse it will be thanks to the card filling. Also I've never played Kingdom Hearts games, so I wouldn't know. Maybe when I do, I'll see that as a negative aspect about Chain of Memories as well.
Next to "Nothing" is "Everything". Mario just killed enemies and got rewarded with coins for it. Just like in Sticker Star. What is so hard to not realize?
Is "nitpicky" a way of saying you don't know how to respond back? I mean, that's how I'm seeing it in this case, because you otherwise added no input to the fact that The Thousand Year Door did the life-sucking-out already, something meant to be a recurring aspect about Color Splash.
I..........uh...........What? Why is the Sonic fanbase brought up and what does that have to do with Iwata Asks? And again, why is it so hard for you to see what is shown? They literally said the next game in the Paper Mario series would be just like Sticker Star, right before all our eyes, and you respond by saying something about the Sonic fanbase? I mean, I am a Sonic fan, but that's very much beside the point, and seems more like an excuse for you to feel superior over me by calling yourself a normal intelligent being as if I'm not. In that case, I think you may want to get checked out or something, because there's intelligence, and then there's going into a gun fight with your bare hands, which is more-or-less what you just did here.
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Mad? Nah. It takes a lot out of me to be made on something on the internet.
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Well, I mean you were trying hard to come up with reasons why to be in denial over what's happening here, something that can't be done in a casual manner.
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So I can't come off as mellow when I'm trying to prove you wrong?
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So you think Nintendo still makes sequals that are better than their predecessor's like Donkey Kong Country Returns when compared to the original?
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Depends entirely on what development teams Nintendo puts the sequels behind (Well, and Nintendo's own decisions).
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So you think a new Mario TV show or movie would have a better chance of adding new characters to the Mario universe than Color Splash would?
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Yes. In fact, as terribly flawed and messy as the 1990s Mario cartoons are, they at least tried expanding upon the world by adding new characters to help give Mario and co. new people and places to interact with.
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Who would you like to see make the new cartoon anyway?
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Anybody that makes good cartoons
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You know the Koopalings totally need to appear in the cartoon don't you think?
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If they are in the show, I was thinking these guys: toxicisland.deviantart.com/art… could be their rivals.
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You think any characters from Mario RPG games, would have a chance to appear in the show?
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Why not, does Nintendo not own the characters from Paper Mario and Mario and Luigi?
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They do, but it isn't like they ever appear in anything outside their series.
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Well the Archie Sonic comics use characters that only appeared in one game as well as characters from the DiC cartoons, so the same could be said for a new Mario TV show.
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But of course, Sonic operates differently from Mario.
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