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Published: 2017-09-05 16:22:47 +0000 UTC; Views: 8692; Favourites: 194; Downloads: 29
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This was a great challenge, the amount of details in this work, man.Pencil Art by Jey2dworld
Listening to: Science Fiction Double Feature (piano version)
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We better get the Sinister Six in the MCU. It's time for Spidey to face one of the greatest villain teams ever on the big screen.
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I don't think we'll see them in the MCU, or at least not the original members.
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Spider-Man can beat those morons any day of the week.
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Back when Spidey was a loner and didn't need assistance form other superheroes like nowadays (*cough* Homecoming *cough*). This was when he was self-sufficient, growing up and getting the likes of MJ, Gwen and some other hotties. I miss late 80's/early-mid 90's Peter Parker, that was where it was at! Nice work!
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Homecoming did what it did so Spider-man could get better integrated into the MCU. It woulda been nicer if he had been included earlier, sure, but I'm fine with how it turned out.
I'm pretty sure he's still a loner in most of the cartoons and comics.
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Spidey doesn't need Iron Man's help nor anyones, he was always self-sufficient in what he did. If anything, he took on more than he should've and still came up on top. MCU treats him like a bitch and Tom Holland's performance resembles exactly that. I'm sorry, but Spidey hasn't been good since the 90's. Ever since Marvel had him starting to join teams and the other heroes, they've displayed his abilites/powers as inefficient compared to the others. I mean, hell, just look at "New Avengers", they treated Pete like a complete incompetent character when he had been doing his own thing for well over a decade at that point. All of a sudden, our lone-hero needs help and needs to be talked down to by 2nd-rate dickhead superheroes? Lol Tom Holland ain't my Spider-Man nor is this new Spidey in the comics anything like the guy I grew up with. Spider-Man died in the 90's.
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Um...you know there was Spider-man Marvel Teamup comics way back in the late 60's right? And how about that Spider-man and his Amazing Friends show from the 70's? His hanging out with other heroes is by no means a new thing. Even the 90's cartoon (where they couldn't even say the word "die" btw) had a crossover with the X-men and later other characters.
And I don't think the Tom Holland Spider-man is such a bitch, since he ended up resolving the climax with just his cute regular suit and web fluid he made himself, and actually rejects the new suit Tony offers him at the end. The Andrew Garfield spider-man annoyed me more because he looked like a dumb jerk.
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Sure, Spidey had team-ups back then (I have a lot of those "Marvel Team-Ups" that you're referring to, so I know), but Michael Straczynski (One More Day) made sure of deleting all of Pete's actual history (once again, another way to destroy Spider-Man's legacy), so it doesn't really matter in the first place. Hell, just look at how the other heroes talk/communicate with Spidey, they act like they've never met, so obviously nothing that happened between the 60's-90's even matters since it was all technically wiped out in the first place. Lol Oh, and sure, the cartoons (especially Spidey & his Amazing Friends) were all kid-friendly/cheesey as can be (I actually like all the shows, so whatever) but have no actual continuity with the comics, so therefore, the "team ups" never happened. How often do you really think Spidey hangs out with Ice-man and Firestar, unless it's to be a tribute/ironic for older fans? Never.
Tom Holland's Spidey/Peter Parker is the opposite of what Spider-Man is. They base him on the "Ultimate" universe (such a misfortunate decision on their parts - Marvel), therefore, he acts like a tweenie-bopper that needs help from other superheroes, because apparently Pete can't do anything himself. Not my Spider-Man. The real Spider-Man was always a standalone character and hated the idea of working with other heroes (almost everytime).
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I thought Joe Quaseda wrote One More-a-world-of-super-people-can't-save-an-old-lady-from-a-gunshot-wound-Day?
Spider-man had started out as a teenager, and that's always a part of his identity, and it could be argued that he was always a "bitch" since he pretty frequently got beat up and stuff. He was also the very first hero to lose a fight due to having a cold, and he habitually struggled with money problems (Amazing Spider-man #1 had him try to join the Fantastic Four in hopes of getting a paid job, lol.)
And to be honest, NO famous superhero is a true loner anymore. Wolverine tries to think of himself as such, but he's been with the X-men a lot, then the Avengers, then other teams, then a billion other teamups and he's had a number of teenage girl sidekicks. At one point he was even the headmaster of a school of mutants. The guy gets around, even if he might complain about it.
Or Batman, again, thinks of himself as a loner, but he's also a major member of the Justice League, has had billions of other teamsups, has a network of allies at Gotham that help him out some way or another, Alfred, Robin, Nightwing, Batgirl/Oracle, Harold, Commissioner Gordron, etc.
Isn't that kind of just the nature of having teamups and or a shared universe? Some big menace shows up, and no single hero can beat it by himself? So they have to gang up on it "work together". Doesn't that inherently make them a "bitch" on some level? Sorry, you're kind of sounding like some supervillain saying "Friends are for weaklings haw haw".
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"Spider-man had started out as a teenager, and that's always a part of his identity, and it could be argued that he was always a "bitch" since he pretty frequently got beat up and stuff. He was also the very first hero to lose a fight due to having a cold, and he habitually struggled with money problems (Amazing Spider-man #1 had him try to join the Fantastic Four in hopes of getting a paid job, lol.)"
- A "bitch"? No. MCU-Tom Holland? Yes. This was when he was starting out, sure and the reason he's so likable is because he's like an Indiana Jones where he puts himself in danger/harm's way everyday, but somehow gets out alive, but not without a few bruises, cuts and broken ribs. Other heroes are invincible just because - to continue the status quo. Peter is different and learns from every fight (that's how you build character). Also, when his uncle died and he was given those words "With Great Power, There Must Also Come Great Responsibility", it made him grow up a lot faster than the average teenager. Homecoming did nothing to resonate with audiences with that trope. Peter was a Tony's cuckboy and only wanted to join the Avengers (how cute..) Also... he wiped the floor with the F4 pretty quick and was exactly how Spider-Man should've been. Cocky and not a push-over (talking to you 2000-story-telling Marvel).
"And to be honest, NO famous superhero is a true loner anymore. Wolverine tries to think of himself as such, but he's been with the X-men a lot, then the Avengers, then other teams, then a billion other teamups and he's had a number of teenage girl sidekicks. At one point he was even the headmaster of a school of mutants. The guy gets around, even if he might complain about it."
- What era of Wolverine are we talking about? Because today's Wolverine is pretty much thrown under the rug just like the other classic heroes and replaced by a chick for PC-SJW sake. Both Wolverine and Spidey work together great in the past because they're both loners, so they can relate. That's why they were still friends all the way up until Dan Slott ruined everything (like he always does).
"Or Batman, again, thinks of himself as a loner, but he's also a major member of the Justice League, has had billions of other teamsups, has a network of allies at Gotham that help him out some way or another, Alfred, Robin, Nightwing, Batgirl/Oracle, Harold, Commissioner Gordron, etc."
- He didn't want to join the Justice League or be apart of them in the first place, he was the one reluctant about it. He's not a team player, but of course Robin/Batgirl come to play, but even then... he usually sticks alone most of the time. Spider-Man was literally a loner up until the 80's at least. Even then, other heroes had no respect for him and he didn't care. He didn't WANT to prove himself to anyone, he was all about himself, that's why he was such a good character back then. Self-reliant and not Tony Stark's cuckboy.
"Isn't that kind of just the nature of having teamups and or a shared universe? Some big menace shows up, and no single hero can beat it by himself? So they have to gang up on it "work together". Doesn't that inherently make them a "bitch" on some level? Sorry, you're kind of sounding like some supervillain saying "Friends are for weaklings haw haw"."
- Actually yes, Avengers suck and have always needed to be with each other to get through anything, while characters like Spidey, Wolverine, Spawn, Ghost Rider have always been loners and can take care of themselves most of the time. Also, Marvel has a bad case of treating Spidey like a rookie when he's been doing his thing for a good 20 years now and all of a sudden when he's with other heroes, he starts doubting himself and screwing up, while making the other heroes look like pros, even though most of them came around long after Spidey was already a hero? Lol Marvel's bullshit. Just admit, Marvel has had it against Spidey since at least the late 90's when they started having him team up more. They overshadow his abilities and he loses fights that he shouldn't. It still happens today.
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