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SansofUndertale — Jevil gets hit with the God question
Published: 2018-12-09 05:13:08 +0000 UTC; Views: 2313; Favourites: 35; Downloads: 7
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He can do it he just chooses not to
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But if he can do anything surely it is impossible for him to lift anything that CAN exist. Thus, he can do anything, but making a stone which he cannot lift is not a thing, and thus he cannot do it.
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Yes, he can. He can do anything, which includes making things that don't exist.
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At which point it would no longer be a stone. Since a stone is a strictly-defined thing that exists, if he were to make something he cannot lift it would no longer be a stone. This is because a stone is something that exists and something which an all-powerful being could not lift does not exist.
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But, as an all-powerful being, He could make what you said possible.
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Ah except, again, it would no longer be a stone.
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Yes, it would, as he can make it be a stone because he can do anything.
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Ah but the concept of a stone is a concrete idea of human understanding. It does not exist in a physical sense; thus it is not a part of anything. Therefore, alteration of the concept is not an aspect as such. Therefore, without alteration of the concept, something which defies the limits of fphysics does not fall within the idea as representative of the concept of a stone.
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You forget...
Jevil's powers are far beyond human understanding.
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Ah yes but if something is intrinsically tied to human understanding, something which is beyond human understanding bears no relevance to it.
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Either way, HE CAN DO ANYTHING, MEANING HE CAN CREATE A STONE SO BIG THAT HE CANT LIFT IT.
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So, you're completely ignoring my arguments and returning to your original thesis statement without a rebuttal? It seems I have won this one.
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No, I'm listening, but none what you say doesn't change the fact that he can do anything.
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You still have not addressed my argument.
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Jevil, as an all-powerful being, can bend the very laws of physics and alter every concept our minds have created. If we have an idea of a what a stone is, he can change it to his will.
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Ah, but what IS thought? Does thought exist? If not, does that place it outside of the bounds of that which we call reality? If this is true, that makes it not a part of anything.
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Thought exists. If it did not, we would not be able to do pretty much anything. A thought is anything our minds and conceive.
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Ah but it has no physical form, no substance. It does not consist of matter or, so far as we can ascertain, energy. Thus, does it really exist? In a physical sense, it can be argued that it does not. Therefore, it does not fall within the area loosely defined as "anything".
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Actually, thought exists physically too, as a series of chemicals setting off a chain reaction in our brains. Jevil could change the way the chemicals act.
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Ah but the experience of thought still exists only in subjective perception.
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How does that change anything?
Unrelated thought: I find it funny how you start almost every comment with, "Ah but"
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Look, we're getting too deep into metaphysics. This is going nowhere.
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Realistically, there can't really be a true answer, as the problem lies with the question. It is a trick question after all.
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I'm glad we've come to an agreement!
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He's my brother, and he's probably messing with you, btw
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XD Kris is asking the impossible But isn't it possible? Or is it not? I'd be so confused if I was in Jevils place XD
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