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Published: 2016-03-26 22:55:13 +0000 UTC; Views: 759; Favourites: 13; Downloads: 0
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Description Disclaimer: I am not really afraid of the terrorist attacks in the way that I truly feel scared, nor is my dad becoming really hateful to the Islam. But he does get angry every time there is a new attack and that slightly upsets me, because I feel there is nothing we can directly do. Except from just living on and don't let the fear get us. Because that is what they want.

Even though I don't exactly feel like this person, it is symbolic for the state of affairs as I see it: we're constantly arguing about minimizing the change of new attacks, feeded by the people who rather see all the muslims (and refugees) leave our country. Isn't this feeling of not being able to trust other people anymore just as bad as the attacks themselves? I can't help but thinking what it must be like for muslims getting all the nasty glares now...

Usually I'm not into politics at all, but look at me now!
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Comments: 14

K-OZ-Will [2016-09-24 21:13:57 +0000 UTC]

Is the fear your father has irrational?

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Saskle In reply to K-OZ-Will [2016-10-02 20:05:20 +0000 UTC]

No, not really. It's just that he exaggerates so much and talks so much about it that it irks me. Luckily he hasn't brought up the topic for months now.

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K-OZ-Will In reply to Saskle [2016-10-04 01:28:15 +0000 UTC]

Cool.
But what I meant was if it was an irrational fear, because that's what a phobia is.

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Saskle In reply to K-OZ-Will [2016-10-04 21:39:13 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I misunderstood. It's not a phobia.

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luvfemuscle [2016-03-26 23:02:10 +0000 UTC]

Anything your Dad (or anyone) says won't put you in the hospital, or the morgue, but terrorism will.

Perhaps, if we saw/heard the Muslim community condemn these attacks, people would not be suspicious.  After Belgium, to silence from the Muslim community was deafening.

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Saskle In reply to luvfemuscle [2016-03-27 18:14:54 +0000 UTC]

True, but the people protesting on the street might do. Fortunately we don't have any riots here yet, but I heard the police needed to intervene in Brussels in danger of fights between far-right extremists and hooligans.

Maybe it was unfair of me to compare these things? It's such a complicated matter...

Here in the Netherlands the Muslim community did condemn the attacks, didn't they in the US?

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luvfemuscle In reply to Saskle [2016-03-27 18:51:57 +0000 UTC]

Nope, not in the US.

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Saskle In reply to luvfemuscle [2016-03-28 08:28:34 +0000 UTC]

That's a shame.

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SmileySan In reply to Saskle [2016-03-29 01:56:19 +0000 UTC]

You can't take one person's "nope, not in the US" as a fact.  There are people who condemn any terrorist attacks or killings done in any part of the world every day. In the same way, you can't assume every single person in the Muslim community in your country actually verbally condemned the acts of people who claim to be Muslims and do heinous acts.  But if any Muslim has read the Quran, then they should condemn any acts of terrorism.  Also, every human should condemn all acts of terrorism, including the ones when Muslims get killed.  It happens all the tie and gets little media coverage.  

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Saskle In reply to SmileySan [2016-04-01 21:27:44 +0000 UTC]

Of course, if one person doesn't hear of it doesn't mean it hasn't happened at all. As I live in the Netherlands I'm not the person to say what is happening in the US, or rest of the world. And like you said, not everything gets media coverage and whenever (any) American muslims condemn the attacks does not get any coverage here in Europe.

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SmileySan In reply to Saskle [2016-04-02 21:48:05 +0000 UTC]

Exactly, except they won't get much coverage in the US either.  I was making the comment because of another commenter which was making their comment sound very factual, even those it was only their understanding or the information that was given to them. 
It's a silly idea that (the average American) people have always had "why aren't more Muslims condemning xyz incident?" or "Muslims don't do it in my country", etc..  While in reality they do more than anyone else. 

On the other hand, Muslims don't have to condemn these issues and shouldn't be forced to feel responsible for people who use their religion's name for evil purposes.  The only ones responsible for evil actions, are the evil doers themselves.

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Saskle In reply to SmileySan [2016-04-05 21:19:14 +0000 UTC]

Hmm, I haven't thought about it that way.
You can ask yourself in what way it is reasonable to always ask Muslims to distance themselves from those incidents.

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SmileySan In reply to Saskle [2016-04-06 03:32:49 +0000 UTC]

logically speaking, Muslims should speak out against them, and do, because (at least in America) the only "Muslims" that the mass media portrays are the violent ones.  So Muslims that actually true Islamic teachings have to stand up and say "no, this isn't Islam.  They're not Muslim", etc." because they would want to distance themselves from the extremists.   I think logically speaking, that is beneficial.  But it is not something that everyone should expect them to do and be upset if they don't do.  Because people are different.  Some people will be offended that they are forced to apologize for someone else's crimes. 

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Saskle In reply to SmileySan [2016-04-06 20:01:39 +0000 UTC]

Exactly. I should have said, in what way it is reasonable to demand Muslims to speak out, because that is what is wrong.

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