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It's about time to begin Part 3 of Planetary Conquest; a tournament that will see the very stars themselves warred over as some of the greatest and most powerful Sci-Fi factions come together to do battle.The Tau Empire: A young, humanoid and highly technologically-advanced intelligent race who are fighting to expand their interstellar empire and a philosophical concept they call the Greater Good. The Tau claim to be a peaceful race when possible, asking if others will join their cause voluntarily instead of fighting. However, if their peaceful overtures are refused, the Tau may well decide to conquer a planet and add it to their growing interstellar empire for the greater good, destroying anyone who stands against their benign expansions.
The Protoss Protectorate: The protoss are a sapient humanoid race native to Aiur. Their advanced technology complements and enhances their psionic mastery. Protoss culture is built around core philosophies that have been rigidly adhered to for over a millenium. As such, it is difficult for their society to adapt to changing circumstances. The main protoss cultural groups are the Khalai, who adhere to the communal Khala, and the Nerazim, who reject the Khala.
Now these two powerful civilizations will go to war with each other. Will the Tau make the Protoss see the ways of the Greater Good? Or will the Protoss crush these youngsters with Psionic Might? I can't say for sure, but I do know this...
Soon the war will begin. What side will you stand with?
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I gotta ask im sorry, where is that picture of the Tau from?
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Uh, it's been a while... I believe I got it from a Warhammer Wallpaper website.
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oh ok thanks ^^ I am not sure why, but it looks like a cover or back of a video game I saw a long while back o3o
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type in tau fire warrior, it was the cover of "warhammer 40k, Fire warrior"
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Thank you. I have been dying to find out what this was ^^
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Let's do some comparing and contrasting shall we?
The Protoss are a single race, Tau Empire is a collective of races so they already outnumber them.
Technology level can be stated to be around the same area, but I feel that the Tau Empire is far more advanced because of their Battlesuits, Ships, and Titan Models. Also even if you do argue that the Tau Empire individually is weaker then the Protoss, together the Tau Empire has better technology then the Toss do.
Psychiatry - The Tau have faced off against Psychic foes such as Imperial Psykers, Chaos Psykers, and Xeno Psykers. It's safe to say that the majority of 40K Psykers are stronger then the Protoss mentally. And for those who say the Tau are immune, you are incorrect they are resistant to the psychic powers. The only way a Tau could be immune to mind control is the implied mind control they are under now. Also the Tau Empire has it's OWN purely psychic race so that knocks that category out.
Now for those who would say that "Well Protoss are good in CQC", The Tau Empire has the Kroot who can do anything any other race can do, not only that but if the Kroot devour Protoss then they'll gain their psychic abilities as well.
I shall cast my vote to the Tau Empire because of the reasons I have stated above!
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Every Protoss warrior has a shield, psychic powers, and advanced weaponry. Furthermore the farsight enclaves specifically mentions that ethreals try to supress all mentions of the supernatural despite the fact that Chaos exists (which the top etchelon knows). They are still naive when it comes to psychics, and think its a davanced form of technology as Cain's novel The Greater Good suggests. Furthermore Nicassar are described as unfit for ground fighting, which is the only type of battles that Scarecrow does. So no psychics on the ground .
This resistance is hinted to be more cultural (less selfish impulses) and tiny Tau souls not being worth the effort . Ethreals might be an exception. In sanctuary of Wyrms and Fire Warrior when Chais wants to corrupt Tau, they do so without too much trouble. Also Khala and the Warp operates on different principles and in game there is no rule that has the Tau avoid hits from SM librarians or other psychics . They have no inherent immunity or heavy resistance to mind control or reading.
The Protoss have greater reaction times in CQC, speed, shielding, and weapons that ignore armor in the form of psi-blades. Kroot would be crushed by zealots, unless having superior numbers.
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People seem to forget that the Tau are not just made up of the Tau. Theirs the Kroot, the Vespid, and a few other minor ones.
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Tau, Kroot, Veespid, Nicassar, Demiurg, Galg, Tarellian, Greet, Ji'atrix, Morralian, Ranghon, Hrenian, Anthrazods, Brachyura, Nagi, Poctroon, Formosians
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protoss is single but strong race, and they have the Golden Armada for emergency which can overwhelm the tau like the zerg but it is far more deadlier than the zerg
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Just no, the Protoss cannot out zerg the zerg.
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i meant they can overwhelm the tau just the zerg overwhelm others, sorry for the bad explanation
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*just like the zerg overwhelm others*
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NEIN NEIN NEIN
Tau actually have very high numbers, theirs no way that the Protoss can overun them.
Heres how the Tau are proven to be better.
Tau can fight against nids and hold their own
Protoss can barely survive against Zerg
Nids beat Zerg easily
Tau therefor destroy Protoss.
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Now I want to see the Tau vs the swarm.
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that..is not a bad idea..
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That's no ordinary tau that's Kais he's slaughtered hundreds of imperial guardsmen and space marines, but I've never even heard of the Protoss so I have no idea who would win
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Tau 40k was made to be the most redicoulus sci fi realm possible.
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What I see here is a classical brain vs. brawn match up (though I could be wrong). On one hand the Tau have the greatest fire power I've seen in Warhammer; plus they also have other races backing them up as well. From what I've seen on the Protoss side, they're more focused on their psionic powers. I think I'll throw my vote in with the Tau since not only with the Protoss reliance on psionics cause problems for some of their units, but the Tau do have a way of convincing even a small group in the enemy faction to defect for the Greater Good.
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The Protoss would win in my opinion because their tech is either the same or superior to Tau tech and Toss have insane Psionic Powers.
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Tau boutz teh getz p0wned!
Toss 4 dah winz!
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I think the Protoss would win because they are as technologically advanced as Tau (they have plasma weapons, advanced technology, and shields on every single one of their units), they have the psionic abilities that probably would be able to match the psychic abilities of the Eldar, and they are very old in comparison to Tau, which would increase the amount of wisdom they have.
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Tau would win, they have the technology and numbers over the Protoss
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The Protoss hav their advanced psi onii abilities as well as mind control, I'm not familiar with the tau's skills but I doubt a carrier charged with dark and light Templar energy crashing into their main force and exploding would go unnoticed as their army begins turning on them
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The Tau are immune to mind altering attacks. They can't use any forms of psychic or psionic abilities, but they also have a natural resistance to such abilities.
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That is False from the novels Fire Warrior and Sanctuary of Wyrms. The idea that Tau are immune to mind control or chaos corruption is a fan theory that has no basis in Black Library Lore.
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I thought the Codex said they were immune. Perhaps I am mistaken, but if I'm not, the Codex takes precedence over any other source.
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to answer that...it's more that chaos has no interest in the Tau...as the Tau's soul is like a goldfish egg compared to the full grown salmon that is the soul of any regular human.
but since both are tiny empires of self important fools i'd have to ultimately give this to the Protoss cuz the Zerg are a lot more peaceful than the Nids and their version of humans are actually willing to fight along side them instead of going fuck you and shooting at anything that moves.
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Actually, that logic seems to favor the Tau. If the Zerg and the marines are less threatening than the 'Nids and the Imperium, the Tau would have to fight harder just to survive, therefore making them more skilled combatants.
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Depends on whether the war was before or after the fall of aiur. With the latest expansion of Starcraft Two covering their reconstruction of sorts, by the end of the story they are quite a force- with large variation in possible warriors.
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I don't know much about the Protoss. What I do know is that, when it comes to full scale war between two forces, and one doesn't have clear and overwhelming advantages over the other, the question of who will win is next to impossible to answer. There are so many variables to take into account that to try and forecast a victory is simply unrealistic.
It all comes down to the tactical and strategic skill of the commanders, the discipline of the soldiers, and mostly luck.
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This is true. Anything can happen in war. A lucky zealot could down an ethereal and it would snowball from there. Or they could get tied up in some kroot while the cadre sets up a firing line. However, I think the match up is relatively even and there is a good probability of peaceful first contact due to the two faction's natures.
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Maybe the Protoss are, but the Tau aren't actually very peaceable. If you immediately submit to their ideals, everything will be cool, but they have no problem trying to wipe you off the face of the planet if you try to resist them.
The behavior of the Tau is based on Japan up to WWII. They believe they have the perfect culture, and will give it to you, whether you want it or not.
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Hmm I don't remember if they do, but if you can find the page number ill look at it.
And only in informal debates does the codex take precedence (so it would take precedence in a debate with me) . However for formal debates, you should know that 40k has no cannon policy with every source being equally correct and not-correct.
Here is what I have found regarding some official quotes on the subject
""With Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000, the notion of canon is a fallacy. There are certainly established facts – the current Emperor is Karl-Franz, the Blood Angels have red armour, Commissar Yarrick defended Hades Hive during the Second Armageddon War. However, to suggest that anything else is non-canon is a disservice to the players and authors who participate in this world. To suggest that Black Library novels are somehow of lesser relevance to the background is to imply that every player who has created a unique Space Marine chapter or invented their own Elector Count is somehow wrong. Nothing could be further from the truth. Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000 exist as tens of thousands of overlapping realities in the imaginations of games developers, writers, readers and gamers. None of those interpretations is wrong." "
Gav Thrope-
"I think the real problem for me, and I speak for no other, is that the topic as a "big question" doesn't matter. It's all as true as everything else, and all just as false/half-remembered/sort-of-true. The answer you are seeking is "Yes and no" or perhaps "Sometimes". And for me, that's the end of it.
Now, ask us some specifics, eg can Black Templars spit acid and we can answer that one, and many others. But again note thet answer may well be "sometimes" or "it varies" or "depends".
But is it all true? Yes and no. Even though some of it is plainly contradictory? Yes and no. Do we deliberately contradict, retell with differences? Yes we do. Is the newer the stuff the truer it is? Yes and no. In some cases is it true that the older stuff is the truest? Yes and no. Maybe and sometimes. Depends and it varies.
It's a decaying universe without GPS and galaxy-wide communication, where precious facts are clung to long after they have been changed out of all recognition. Read A Canticle for Liebowitz by Walter M Miller, about monks toiling to hold onto facts in the aftermath of a nucelar war; that nails it for me.
Sorry, too much splurge here. Not meant to sound stroppy.
To attempt answer the initial question: What is GW's definition of canon? Perhaps we don't have one. Sometimes and maybe. Or perhaps we do and I'm not telling you."
- Marc Gascoigne
[link] "
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Thanks, I didn't know that. now I do.
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A minor set back, the Protoss have an equally ungodly destructive and life purging arsenal to the Tau and with an invisible force hidden under the Protoss mother ship and arbiters then the Tau won't know what's hitting them till the croakers go down, and taking down that mother ship is bloody difficult, especially with it just flying over head laying waste to everything beneath it with the purifier ray all the while with a shield that slows down time around it and the ability to open worm holes, the templar's psionic attacks may not work on their minds but a psionic storm is still gonna blow the armor clean off any Tau caught inside then the dark Templar moving around unseen, the Tau sensors r good but they won't stomp the fleet of permanently cloaked ninjas swarming them from the drop ship the Protoss snuck behind them
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It would be a lot easier to take you seriously if you used periods. Or followed any grammar, spelling, and punctuation rules, for that matter.
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There are only 2 reasons to ever use 100% complete grammar and that is school work and actual story writing <.< in any other instance I will type, write or text how I talk which is far more efficient and time saving, time is money
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Punctuation marks are used in place of inflection in speech. For instance, a comma represents a slight pause in speech, whereas a period presents a lowered inflection followed by a substantial pause. I suggest you type your comments as you currently do, read them out loud, and add the appropriate punctuations as you hear yourself pronounce them.
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... I hav already stated why I will not do that, now go away, this conversation is over
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How do you expect to be able to end a conversation when you can't even end a sentence?
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That was a burn that could be seen from space, I salute you.
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*Nods sagely in your direction*
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Ok, what advantages do you think they have over the Tau?
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Right now I have no idea who would win. But the match will be spectacular. One side has crazy good long ranged abilities while the other has amazing melee powers and psionics to back them up. Frankly I don't care who wins, because the resulting explosion of powers and abilites will be too cool
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Tau, they don't suck eggs at long range.
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Yeah, but they suck eggs at close range though. Also, they're blue skinned weeaboo space commies.
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and the protoss are a proud warrior race that largely spent its history in a community hive mind, with a simpler caste system. And the protoss are pretty good at range too.
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