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1nnocenttazlet [2017-02-22 20:02:36 +0000 UTC]
It goes to the extreme if you put something sexual in the picture comment not even in the image you can get the image removed for text or just linking to your tumblr page. EG 14-bis had a trixie tang image removed for the writing because it was a mock playboy magazine cover.. they let him re submit the image without the text on the image.
Its sad the site will allow you to draw more erotic pictures if you keep the character a child as giving them an adult body is instantly classed as sexualising the character if they are too curvy. Just check out lots of loli characters you can see them in bikinis barelly covering their bits, but a sweater on big breast will get you in more trouble.
Really its a crap shoot with the rules somewhat. Like linking to tumblr/ FA can get you a suspension as the sites has adult content... but not linking to patreon even though most artist use it as a hentai paysite for their art. Seem to be just as much about money and copy write issues with big companies than anything else. I guess thats the price you pay with a site with lots of advertising the shady side.
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scificat In reply to 1nnocenttazlet [2017-02-23 11:31:34 +0000 UTC]
I don't mind the "no external links" rule DA has for this kind of situations, you can simply state to viewers: "Check me out on my other profiles, I have the same account name there" and people can easily find the version of the image I could not post here, what burns me is the asinine double standards that are in place on this site regarding what is acceptable sexy or unacceptable sexy.
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2000daggers [2017-02-06 05:19:21 +0000 UTC]
huh, i thought the rules were "anything goes as long as there are no erect dicks, sexual penetration or sexual fluids" and i think there was a rule against direct death threats....
basically, you can draw hitler with his dick out so long as he's still flacid.
do i have it right or did they change some shit?
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scificat In reply to 2000daggers [2017-02-06 22:49:12 +0000 UTC]
It seems it is far more nuance than that now, I don't know what kind of came up with this but apparently you cannot post erotic art of fictional characters depicted as grown-up adults with bodies that are indeed of adults IF said character has some official wiki out there indicating that the character is a minor. That covered up Amy had large breast and ample hips to show this was an grown-up 18+ version of her, but because on some website completely unrelated to deviantArt says that she is a minor, it doesn't matter how she looks in the image, the admins will take it down. Meanwhile drawings of character that look like and have the bodies of minors CAN be depicted in a sexualized manner so long the "canon" information available indicates that the character is not a minor.
So a naked image of Etna from Disgaea is OK because she is supposed to be a 1470 year-old demon, despite the fact that she looks like a pre-teen girl, sexualized images of Roll from Megaman or Call from Mighty Nº9 - totally fine according to DA admins because they are Robots despite the fact they look like minors ... FUCKING WHAT?!?!
Oh and it gets better ... If you want to see the utter hypocrisy of this site and how they apply or ignore the rules to their convenience I recommend you read this journal entry by it will boggle your mind
Deviant Art Hyper HypocrisyHi there, folks! As you all know, I have a spoof version of MLP's humanised Twilight Sparkle, called Queen Twilight, whom
I use to poke fun at the pony fandom, with her comic antics. She has always been stated as being over 18 years of age.
Nevertheless, Deviant Art, that organisation known all over the web for good taste and normality, decided to delete
about a dozen or so Queen Twilight images, due to them showing her legal-age boobs, or as Deviant Art stated it:
"Showing rude images of an OC based on a character under 18 in the original context"...Sure thing!
Anyone looking for a mere ten seconds on DA knows just how much bullshit that kind of statement is!
So, I proceeded to send the DA admins a notification of a rather rancid MLP group, shown below:
http://my-little-fart.deviantart.com/
If you are wondering, I found this filth on the main page of a certain DA user. (Whom I will not name, for
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2000daggers In reply to scificat [2017-02-07 06:12:31 +0000 UTC]
articles an interesting read, who needs mind flayers when you got deviant art amiright?
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curtsibling In reply to scificat [2017-02-07 02:33:24 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for mentioning this, SciFiCat! DA's application of policy is indeed a load of bollocks.
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scificat In reply to curtsibling [2017-02-08 15:46:46 +0000 UTC]
No problem man, those policies are so inconsistent and nonsensical that every little bit of attention brought to these is worth mentioning and you are one of the best at it.
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scificat In reply to SoulStormHNS [2017-02-03 23:38:58 +0000 UTC]
That's basically the reaction of the admins when you ask them to reconsider reinstating your deleted art.
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scificat In reply to Dizzydizzydemon [2017-01-18 17:56:32 +0000 UTC]
It sometimes feels like Bizarro got a part-time job moderating this site.
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artistafrustrado [2017-01-08 20:01:15 +0000 UTC]
well yeah this site is the porn stash of a bunch of hipsters & don't you dare it to ruin it with your filthy 2D furry shit
that or the asshats who think they're being "funny" by banning all the Saniks because "hurr durr Sanik hurr durr is not calladooty"
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scificat In reply to artistafrustrado [2017-01-10 20:42:03 +0000 UTC]
There is indeed some very weird criteria on this site, I remember the one time the staff decided to give a "Daily Deviation" to the photo of a naked girl with a dead octopus over her ass, it goes without saying that that choice really was ill received by the community, since then I consider the staff's criteria a damn joke.
As for the banners, it is a pointless effort as they achieve nothing since I can post my art elsewhere, anyone who wants to see this piece are more than welcomed and able to see it on my other profiles.
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Jojocoso [2017-01-08 04:53:59 +0000 UTC]
Comprendo a lo que te refieres y entiendo tu enojo, yo tampoco entiendo el criterio y/o juicio de los administradores.
No me espanto por el desnudo de otra persona o algo así, pero navegando por la página encuentro cada bizarres o imagen grotesca de gente real desnuda y mostrando de una manera cruda o explícita sus partes, viendo las imágenes juraría que algunos son menores y lo peor de asunto es que ya tienen tiempo publicados.
¿Como es posible que DA no cuide esos detalles y lo permita? Digo, si están cuidando la "imagen" de la página ¿como dejan pasar estas cosas?, no entiendo.
Aunque la percepción de todo usuario es distinta, lo cual está bien ya que nos permite manejar una gran variedad de estilos y tonos en nuestros trabajos, lamentablemente tambien hay usuarios, y administradores, con la percepción limitada, de poca tolerancia o juicio equivoco acerca de todo esto.
Pero ¿que hacer? si bien uno puede emigrar o ampliarse a otras páginas, en ocasiones, supongo que como a tí, a veces se necesita este tipo de plataformas para darse a conocer y trabajar Comissions.
¿Que más puedo decir que no te hayan dicho antes? Quizá hasta que a DA este en problemas económicos, es harto difícil que cedan para este tipo de personajes e ilustraciones, yo ví está Amy y es un excelente trabajo en color y trazos, y no lo digo porque sea un desnudo, pero sí estaba trabajado de una manera eróticamente artística, otra vez, en verdad no entiendo los criterios de la página.
En fin ¿que nos queda?, en mi caso, respeto lo que la gente publique, no estaré de acuerdo con algunos de ellos, pero no ando de "Troll" queriendo perjudicarlos, pero sí y es algo muy marcado, una cosa es un personaje de ficción (que no siente, no tiene emociónes, etc) y otra una persona real (un ser conciente), estas personas de DA tienen que replantearse ciertos aspectos de todo esto.
No estoy seguro que mis palabras hayan servido de algo, pero comprendo tu malestar, a la mayoría les ha pasado.
Te deseo suerte y que logres avances en tu carrera de artista, sease aquí o en otro lugar, pero que siempre te resulte.
Bonito fin de semana.
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scificat In reply to Jojocoso [2017-01-10 20:31:54 +0000 UTC]
Lo que me trae de cabeza es que el criterio que usan no se basa en lo que se representa la imagen sino en un contexto externo a la imagen lo cual no tiene el mínimo sentido a mi entender. Si, Amy es menor según la información oficial pero la ilustración la muestra como mayor de edad, su anatomía es la de un adulto, pero eso le importa un bledo al los moderadores de DA y borran la imagen.
Para mas colmo, otros personajes en situaciones eróticas si se les permite estar si no hay información que indiquen que son menores o información que diga lo contrario a pesar de tener una apariencia infantil, por ejemplo; Etna de la serie Disgaea ( disgaea.wikia.com/wiki/Etna ) es un personaje que oficialmente tiene 1470 años de edad lo cual significa que se pueden permitir imágenes de ella como estas y no pasa nada:
Mature Content
Mature Content
Roll y Call, oficialmente robots sin edad, por tanto a pesar de su apariencia infantil, esto es totalmente válido:
Mature Content
Perdón pero ... ¡¿ESTAN DE BROMA?! Si también estos son personajes ficticios pero el absurdo de lo que hace a estos aceptables no tenga nada que ver con su apariencia sino con una información externa o la falta de información es demasiado irónico.
No pienso irme de DA, pero evidentemente me voy a reservar el derecho a solo publicar las versiones sin censura de mi arte en otra parte porque simplemente aquí no me dan el incentivo para hacerlo, eso o voy a tener que entrar en Google para revisar la edad FICTISIA de cada personaje FICTISIO que dibuje de ahora en adelante ... O_o
Y si, como tu dices, algunas reglas en DA deben ser replanteadas porque realmente no tienen sentido.
Muchas gracias por tu comentario y te deseo a ti también lo mejor con tu arte y tu progreso artístico.
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scificat In reply to GodForSakenDragon [2017-01-07 15:17:11 +0000 UTC]
Yep, apparently DA loves giving artist incentives to consider this site a secondary or third tier site where to post their art and not the primary. It is not as if Patreon is a site that is providing a legitimate method for creators to earn a living instead of the outdated printing model DA uses.
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SabreXT [2017-01-07 02:32:22 +0000 UTC]
Given the inconsistency of what DA blocks, I wonder if it has more to do with specific mods and their particular preferences?
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scificat In reply to SabreXT [2017-01-07 15:05:26 +0000 UTC]
... or some moralist busybody that lurks the galleries to take down pictures he dislikes of his "waifu"
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SabreXT In reply to scificat [2017-01-08 03:30:55 +0000 UTC]
Really? Again? I've heard of that happening before, but I assumed they had disappeared. I guess each fandom has at least one.
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EdwinShy [2017-01-07 01:56:59 +0000 UTC]
Oy... dA REALLY needs to get it's shit together but never will but great way of making a point thou
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scificat In reply to EdwinShy [2017-01-07 15:03:28 +0000 UTC]
A minor rant on my behalf on what I consider a broken, boneheaded system. Honestly, this is just a way for DA to drive away artist, not attracting them.
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EdwinShy In reply to scificat [2017-01-15 14:47:04 +0000 UTC]
I agree dA really needs to fix it's problems but doubt they would
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DraxDrilox [2017-01-07 00:40:54 +0000 UTC]
Thanks to the feminist that protect more fictional characters than real humans
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scificat In reply to DraxDrilox [2017-01-07 14:59:56 +0000 UTC]
".... but think of the fictional cartoon children!"
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ubernewtype [2017-01-07 00:36:14 +0000 UTC]
...Haven't you posted (slightly) more explicit stuff than that here, and it not get flagged? Just recently:
>Art historian posts photo of a nude Neptune fountain in Italy to her Facebook page
>FB calls it 'sexually explicit', and blocks it (Can't lose that ad revenue, after all!)
Also, imgur.com/gallery/uwARC
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scificat In reply to ubernewtype [2017-01-07 14:58:35 +0000 UTC]
Their policies are just draconian when it comes to fanart - no matter how adult the character looks in the depiction in the fanart - if in some cannon source it says "under 18" then DA defaults towards deletion.
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UnusualUnity [2017-01-07 00:33:11 +0000 UTC]
DA is famous for having inconsistent and indefensible censorship policies. Sadly, until it starts costing them money they won't change it.
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scificat In reply to UnusualUnity [2017-01-07 14:53:37 +0000 UTC]
DA has already lost a lot of artist who have left for sites that have better policies and actually work to help artist earn a living instead of hindering them. Sooner or later they'll have to change or become ever more irrelevant.
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WerewolfConfess [2017-01-07 00:17:34 +0000 UTC]
I know right? I could never understand how they consider people uploading their nudes as art. And some of them really don't need to be posting their junk.
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scificat In reply to WerewolfConfess [2017-01-07 00:36:21 +0000 UTC]
I don't mind real life nudes meant as artistic pieces (good lighting, composition, color balance, etc) but if DA is also fine with people posting crappy phone-selfies taken an inch away from their body orifices but somehow DA has issues with a aged-up drawing of a fictional cartoon character there is something very wrong with their policies.
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WerewolfConfess In reply to scificat [2017-01-07 00:54:30 +0000 UTC]
Oh yeah, I get that but I was referring to those crappy selfies that I've seen around here. I think DA is just really losing whatever common sense it might have had.
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scificat In reply to WerewolfConfess [2017-01-07 14:51:36 +0000 UTC]
It boggles my mind that DA prioritizes the "cannon age" of the fictional character and pays no attention as to whether or not the character actually looks adult or not in the image. I could draw the most voluptuous and adult looking version of a female character ever, but if somewhere some wiki says "under 18" DA ignores all other evidence to the contrary. It happened prior with a pic I did of Jasmine from Aladdin, drew her fully developed, big breast, wide hips woman - DA: nope, she's a minor (16). So no matter how you draw her or how she looks - the only thing that matters is a piece of info that might not correspond with what is on display.
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WerewolfConfess In reply to scificat [2017-01-07 22:47:54 +0000 UTC]
Funny how things tend to work out the way they do. It's just the image of the original character and who it influences. I guess they don't want certain people to come across these more adult version of characters. Or something like that. Hard to explain what I'm trying to say. Sorry
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scificat In reply to curtsibling [2017-01-07 00:22:13 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, the Amy Rose pic shown here, drawn as an adult. DA ever protecting the rights of fictional cartoon characters.
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curtsibling In reply to scificat [2017-01-07 03:29:37 +0000 UTC]
It's because she is under 18 in the original context. They are covering their ass legally.
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scificat In reply to curtsibling [2017-01-07 14:38:42 +0000 UTC]
That just the thing; this is not the original context and it cannot in any way be interpreted as being a faithful representation of the character as a minor because of the way it was drawn, it falls squarely under the interpretation of transformative work and a "parody" of sorts.
Meanwhile in this very site there are drawings of characters that look and have anatomy that correspond to minors in sexually explicit situations but because there is no context for it, or because these are robots/aliens/demons that just happen to look like minors, DA allows it, it makes no sense.
Worse, there are questionable pictures of real life minors in this site and DA does nothing to purge such content - if they were really concerned about covering their ass legally, that's what they'll prioritize.
DA's policies are simply broken because it only takes into account the "cannon age" of a fictional characters and ignore how the character actually looks like in the fanart.
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curtsibling In reply to scificat [2017-01-07 23:25:54 +0000 UTC]
I agree in spirit...But good luck trying to get DA to see this argument.
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scificat In reply to curtsibling [2017-01-08 14:05:43 +0000 UTC]
Don't sweat it, this is just me venting my frustration over how absurd their policies are - I know they aren't going to change anything unless it hurts their bottom line.
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