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EnglishBe absolutely honest, if you know the bible you know it has explicit content. It has nudity, sexual themes including: fornication, sodomy, grupal sex, incest; it has violence: torture, mutilation, stoning, lynching, homicide, suicide, genocide, fratricide, infanticide and almost everything that ends in "cide". I don't think (honestly) that children should be exposed to this material until they're old enough to "understand" it. However, I've never seen a warning label on the cover of the bible...
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Sean absolutamente honestos, si conocen la biblia saben que tiene contenido explícito. Tiene desnudez, temas sexuales que incluyen: fornicación, sodomía, sexo grupal, incesto; tiene violencia: tortura, mutilación, lapidamiento, linchamiento, homicidio, suicidio, homicidio, fraticidio, infanticidio y casi todo lo que termina en "cidio". No creo (honestamente) que los niños debieran ser expuestos a este material hasta ser lo suficientemente maduros para entenderlo. Sin embargo nunca vi una advertencia en la tapa de la biblia...
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Luzbel-Enigma [2009-01-17 01:24:16 +0000 UTC]
Bingo! Ahora se por que estoy tan trasornada...
Muy bueno, y muy cierto
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nimnimity [2009-01-16 22:55:51 +0000 UTC]
i think if you did that the young'uns would only want to read it more
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mguz192 [2009-01-16 21:48:08 +0000 UTC]
Lol
Although I've seen this before, I'm always amused to see the way this idea has been used to advocate freedom. It's so controversial that whatever point it had in the beginning is forever lost to the waves of disputes that imminently follow. The idea is too controversial to make it an effective image. Now the other images in your gallery (e.g. "hardcore porn") are pretty light with a deep message, humorous, and straight to the point. This idea is just plain .....messy in all sense.
However, Kudos to you for opening a Pandora's box! Because I luvz them!!
Now, it's my turn to take a whack at the controversial in regards to the warning label on the Bible:
1) I do agree that the Bible is a complex piece of work that takes years to understand; not only do children often get confused and not understand, but so do adults.
2) I don't agree with your statement that "children should be exposed to this material until they're old enough to "understand" it" because understanding the Bible in its entirety is an impossible task because how you understand it is subjective. I do believe that children SHOULD be exposed to it but they SHOULDN'T be forced to make a decision regarding it up till they wish it.
3) Although objectivity while teaching the Bible would be ideal, it is impossible.
4) Parents are often the ones who read to their children so in that scenario, the label is kinda....useless Lol, bad choice of a scenario in my part.
5) I love cats!
6) If the child can actually read the Bible, I'm sure he/she is old enough to get the jist of it and can decide on his/her own whether to continue reading or not.
7) As for the explicit material, considering the context in which it appears, I don't believe it is even explicit. The aforementioned "materials" that you label as explicit are found in the Bible, but the purpose is never to showcase it in extreme detail nor to revel in it. Any mature theme is integrated into the text in order to support a lesson/point/moral/etc. Explicit to me means something exposed in its rawest form without no other meaning attached.
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Yea....I want to say so much more, but I think I've taken more than enough space. Hehehehe....sigh....but I do so love a good rant/discussion/argument/etc...
If anyone wants to discuss or argue you can send me a note!
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As for the art in this work, I like the warning label you used, but you should've kept the perspective in place in order for it not to look so unnatural with the book.
SOoOoOo......that's it!
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multigal In reply to ??? [2009-01-16 21:08:00 +0000 UTC]
if it's from "the Lord" no one has a right to say bad things about it
and that is why sometimes i feel that a bible can mislead more than anything
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see03 [2009-01-16 20:42:03 +0000 UTC]
I love the message. Great job!
I'm not quite so sure why so many people are bothered though. You didn't do this as a protest against religion, but as a joke against parental advisories on dA, movies, and in life.
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scuzzo In reply to see03 [2009-01-17 03:08:07 +0000 UTC]
yeah, I know, you got the point, others aparently not
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see03 In reply to scuzzo [2009-01-17 03:50:51 +0000 UTC]
Some people can't see past their own thoughts.
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Noiry In reply to ??? [2009-01-16 20:28:56 +0000 UTC]
Gran verdad. La biblia es un gran resumen de la historia de la humanidad, en ella se citan todas las salvajadas que hemos cometido a lo largo de los milenios.
La Biblia necesitaría un Parental Advisory, aunque es casi mejor leerse la original que esas versiones para niños edulcoradas...
Quien se quiera quejar que se queje, y quien quiera entender que entienda.
Gran trabajo, me gusta tu serie anti-censura :3 Puestos a censurar, censuremos todo lo censurable, no sólo lo que conviene.
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Hapax [2009-01-16 19:47:05 +0000 UTC]
i'll admit, i chuckled the first time i saw this.
several years ago.
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jamieshirlyn In reply to ??? [2009-01-16 19:35:45 +0000 UTC]
Everyone has the right to their opinions, so I believe neither of us should judge negatively about the underlying issues of religion, but rather the boldness of his art.
This is a great piece, and although it has obviously insulted others, I look up to your sense of taking controversial issues by its horns, and letting your voice be heard.
Keep up the great work (:
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scuzzo In reply to jamieshirlyn [2009-01-16 19:40:28 +0000 UTC]
I don't know why someone would feel insulted by this. I'm a parent. I've received catholic education. I wasn't disrespectful. I've only said that the bible is not suitable for children. That's all. Where's the offense?
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jamieshirlyn In reply to scuzzo [2009-01-16 19:50:33 +0000 UTC]
Oh no, please don't get me wrong.
I praise your art, I think they're terrific.
It's just that living in a world where the majority of the people are not open-minded just frustrates me [I was referring to the "Really Bad Soup" person].
But yes, I'm also catholic, and my family is very religious, but I am in NO WAY insulted/offended by this. (:
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scuzzo In reply to jamieshirlyn [2009-01-17 04:14:26 +0000 UTC]
I didn't say you were offended, sorry if I wasn't clear. I have tons of messages and I try to reply to them all but it's impossible and I might be getting confused. Thank you for your comment.
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Really-Bad-Soup In reply to jamieshirlyn [2009-01-16 20:53:18 +0000 UTC]
Where is there any speaking of offense? I'm not offended by his art. I just thought it was really poorly made. Which I said. It isn't reflective of the majority of things within the artist's gallery.
Who is giving it a negative review based on religion?
It isn't bold. It's really simple, really bland, the angle is awkward, the color is actually pretty repulsive, and honestly, it really looks like that advisory sticker is crooked. More specific for you?
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jamieshirlyn In reply to Really-Bad-Soup [2009-01-16 22:05:22 +0000 UTC]
Well, if you're commenting on its art rather than subject matter, then that's another concept.
Forgive me for the misunderstanding.
However, this website is a place where people can express all kinds of art, and it doesn't have to be "perfect" by your standards. I think his art is bold, you think it's not. That's totally fine if you don't think so, but don't twist MY comments. If you don't like his art, it doesn't mean it's not art. dA does NOT go by your standards. If they did, then the majority of what people submit on this site wouldn't be "art."
You are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine, so it would be pleasant if we can get this past us.
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elle13 [2009-01-16 19:26:53 +0000 UTC]
this is exactly what ive always said!!!!!!! these bible thumpers are always complaining about violence and sex etc...and yet the bible is just as explicit!!!!! so anyways i think this is awesome!
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Really-Bad-Soup [2009-01-16 17:56:36 +0000 UTC]
This isn't nearly as witty or sarcastic as you think it is. Not only is it poorly constructed in terms of the actual artistic piece, the point you're humping away at has really been beaten to death.
I really hope that you aren't taking these people seriously. Most of them are just happy someone is attacking the Bible, and aren't concerned with your message. They'll agree with anything. Mindless sheep come in all forms.
Censorship, blah, blah, blah, blah. Fail.
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scuzzo In reply to Really-Bad-Soup [2009-01-16 18:28:46 +0000 UTC]
You totally missed the point. I've only said that CHILDREN should wait until being mature enough to UNDERSTAND the bible, that means they CAN read it eventually.
If they (children) accept religion too early in their lives they will surely be "mindless sheep", trust me.
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Really-Bad-Soup In reply to scuzzo [2009-01-16 20:46:07 +0000 UTC]
I didn't miss the point. I understood what you were getting at. It's actually a majority of these posts that really don't understand what you mean. What I was saying is that your "point" is just mundane; a point that has already been made.
I wasn't criticizing your subject matter- I don't care what you think. Honestly. You're nobody to me. I'm just saying it's a really shallow piece of work. Poorly constructed, and poorly executed. Overall, boring. Your opinion regarding censorship or what is suitable for children or not is not what I'm attacking. Did you read what I wrote? Or did you just infer meaning?
The piece is just lame. That was all.
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scuzzo In reply to Really-Bad-Soup [2009-01-17 04:07:51 +0000 UTC]
ok, the piece is lame, I've never said it was a masterpiece anyways...
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3-4 In reply to Really-Bad-Soup [2009-01-16 20:57:35 +0000 UTC]
There is no point one can make that hasn't been made before, originality is extinct. There's too many people in this world for anything to truly be an original thought.
Stop being so butthurt and grow up. Not everyone shares the same opinion as you, get over yourself and quit acting like such an ass.
And patch up that chip on your shoulder while you're at it.
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Really-Bad-Soup In reply to 3-4 [2009-01-16 21:29:39 +0000 UTC]
You must be a riot at parties.
I can't believe anyone still cares about this, it was hours ago.
Not everyone has to share my opinion. But I'm entitled to it. As are you. So I fail to see where your hostility is coming from. If everyone who didn't like something was quiet about it, there wouldn't be any protesting at all, let alone protest art.
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3-4 In reply to Really-Bad-Soup [2009-01-17 01:07:42 +0000 UTC]
I replied 5 minutes after you posted.
That's nothing wrong with stating your opinion, but what you said was completely bashing. If you don't like it, then say so with tact. Saying "You're nobody to me" or "Poorly constructed, and poorly executed" is not only rude, it's not helpful. Okay, you don't like it. To each his own. But saying that seems like you have it out personally for the artist. And it's not going to help anyone, it's just rude and distasteful.
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Really-Bad-Soup In reply to 3-4 [2009-01-17 02:30:22 +0000 UTC]
That's your take. There's a lot of room for "why is it poorly constructed?" In which case, I could explain my particular opinion. But no one likes any form of criticism, and rather than be adults everyone's so very quick to defend the art with the same sort of vague "it's good." or "I totally agree." That's just as specific as what I wrote. Apparently, if you disagree with someone's work you need to write an essay, complete with flowery, delicate language and a thesis statement as to why. I'll keep it in mind. Although, let's be honest, it didn't matter what I wrote, the minute it was negative, everyone jumped to the "defense of religious freedom front," when I never said a word about religion (except that everyone misunderstood what he was getting at and that he was receiving false praise).
"You're nobody to me," means just what it says. I don't know the person. I have no predisposed opinion. I have no vendetta against him in terms of creed or belief system. It isn't rude, it's fact.
Feel free to beat this horse to death, but it's getting boring to me and the conversations are all just recycled. It's curious just how ignorant all the "open-minded" people are when you don't like something they do. And more curious what they find vulgar and distasteful. I guess everyone is guilty of trying to censor someone's way of expressing themselves, huh?
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Verwildert In reply to 3-4 [2009-01-16 21:29:35 +0000 UTC]
Take your own advice and realise not everyone shares the same opinion. Everyone here has been allowed to post their feelings, and this deviant is simply sharing theirs. Just cause it doesn't match 98% of the other opinions doesn't mean he's not entitled to voice them.
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3-4 In reply to Verwildert [2009-01-17 01:11:50 +0000 UTC]
I think you misunderstood me. I'm perfectly fine with people having differing opinions, the world would be a very dull place indeed if we didn't think differently.
However, what I do NOT consider "simply sharing [their opinion]" is saying things like "You're nobody to me" and "Poorly constructed, and poorly executed". That's not helpful to anyone, it's just spiteful and obnoxious. And that's what put me off.
They asked for advanced critique, so if one dislikes it, they should at least have the decency to say why, rather than full-on bashing the artist himself.
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ScreamingForSunlight [2009-01-16 16:57:30 +0000 UTC]
I totally agree with you, not only because the bible has such explicit content, but because kids are so impressionable and gullible, and you don't have to give them a reason to believe in something. If you just hand them a bible and say "everything in this book is true," then they will believe you. They shouldn't be brainwashed into religions at such a young age.
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scuzzo In reply to ScreamingForSunlight [2009-01-16 18:45:46 +0000 UTC]
I couldn't agree more!
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Really-Bad-Soup In reply to ScreamingForSunlight [2009-01-16 17:51:53 +0000 UTC]
Oh goodie, someone else agrees with you about the OH-SO-OBVIOUS point that you made by being unoriginal and unartistic.
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ScreamingForSunlight In reply to Really-Bad-Soup [2009-01-16 22:08:28 +0000 UTC]
i beg your pardon?
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scuzzo In reply to Really-Bad-Soup [2009-01-16 19:19:01 +0000 UTC]
funny you said "unoriginal" and "unartistic", your DA page shows how original and artistic you are: it's empty! get a life...
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Really-Bad-Soup In reply to scuzzo [2009-01-16 20:32:11 +0000 UTC]
Actually, I don't use my art account for posting, simply for the reason you provided. People feel that they need to discredit my evaluation of their work by looking at my work in some infantile effort to make me feel poorly about what I do since they have no real defense for their own work being crap. Which is the only real reason I can see you even thinking to look in my gallery- some attempt to make me look like a hypocrite of some kind regarding originality.
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