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Presenting 's OC Flareup!This was a hard piece to do in terms of the pose. Whew! gave me pic of a Green Lantern cover (who's the source of inspiration for the costume design btw) and wanted me to use that pose. Not wanting to be accused of tracing and art theft, i totally changed the position of both arms and the face. Position and anatomical tweaks were also done with the torso and legs. Hope he's happy with this piece.
No references of the face and both upper extremities.
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Thanks! I was afraid that it might look too clean but i guess it works anyway.
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that's a good picture. i wonder if people will ever move away from costumes...
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Thanks bro.. as for costumes. I dont think so. Xmen tried to do away with em and went for the civilian looks with black jackets and stuff but they looked pretty boring.
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yes well, they didn't quite think too hard on the subject.
the novelty of it all is way to over the top. i think there is a way to take an average character/person and have them iconify their own normal, street-like outfit.
wolverine was a bad example because he took an outfit that was already spoken for by people like james dean.
frankly, i believe it can be done.
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Actually i personally think that his classic white shirt and jeans look was successful coz after many years, its still used in the books.
What i was referring to was the black jacket costume when Xorn was in the team. The more they looked casual, the crappier they looked. The only superteam that dont do costumes and has succeeded is The Boys (even then, their look has been popularized by many other movies and books).
Cage is in civies all the time too. I guess it all boils down to the character and what works for em.
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oh yea, definitely. i suppose you're perspective is a lot closer since i stopped reading comic books a few years ago.
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I juz cant stop reading comics... i think ive been reading since the 80's but not as much as i did in the 90's though.
why'd ya stop?
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the cost was to much at first and then i tried to get back in when i got a better job but every story line i got into was either half way through or lacked the artistic quality i came to expect from certain major titles.
like the story line of that Wolverine plot, where he has another kid whose a dude and there's some kind of strange plot to kill him or something with some healing cure... it was good. apparently won some awards, though it could've been better in my opinion. for a comic rated A it should have had some deeper aspects.
but the real deciding factor to abandon that plot line was the art. it was just too horrible. especially considering how i could've easily done better in a shorter time.
it seemed like such a shame.
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Well, yeah... the cost really killed the comic book industry here where i live. Literally, nobody buys comic books here anymore. People dont have cash (a comic book costs a whole day's wage here) and all the bookstores have closed down.
Wolverine having a kid? you mean his son with the two claws? It had awards? it was shitty! the art was shit poor too. If i were to give an award to a Wolverine book, id giv it to Wolverine
As for the art nowadays.. there are really REALLY good ones and there are really REALLY bad ones too. Do these lousy artists have cheap wages compared to good ones? sigh. But im happy Leinil Yu, Bianchiani (or something), Jae Lee, Deodato, Clayton Crain, Coipel, Djurdjevic, Caselli, Pagulayan, Joe Mad, Rob De La Torre, McGuiness, Olivetti are with MARVEL now. I think i missed a lot of other great artists in that list. In Marvel now, i think 80% of their artists are the best out there. Sad to say there are filler artists who arent up to the job and juz plain lousy.
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well i really loved mc.farlanes art but he's long since gone off the deep end. buying half the edmonton oilers, making a new logo, getting screwed with it, creating spawn, making action figures. but apparently that's his good points, hte deep end apparently is displayed in his social behavior and his irrational spending habits. but i wouldn't know, i'm a fan of his. grew up in his home town and followed his footsteps.
wanting to be better than he is. but nope. couldn't do it.
anyway, i loved that one artist who did spiderman for a bit then went on to ghost rider, did every page as a digital painting.
just awesome stuff. totally extreme art work. makes no sense really but incredible no less.
i bought every single copy but alas, my foster mother, even after i moved out, managed to destroy them.
she's good at that.
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Im not a fan of McFarlane to be honest, but id be an asshole not to recognize his skills and gifts. Well, were all human and he, same as us, isnt perfect.
I think the guy you mentioned doing spidey a bit and moved to Ghostrider (the miniseries though) is none other than Clayton Crain. He's doing Xforce now but IMO, its not as good as his works in GR and Spidey.
As for your foster mom and your comic books.... ouch. huge painful OUCH.
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no doubt, especially when my elderly neighbor gave me the entire, and i mean entire series that went into and left the 1970's. and i mean every single issue for that entire year.
for amazing spider man, and a few other ones.
he even gave me a few incredibly rare ones (i remember every page) but understandably, no one believes me. so i don't bother really trying to convince them, however you can imagine my incredibly emotional outburst when i found all my comics stacked in piles in my closet, torn to bits because that woman threw me into them. oh and she tore a few up to show me a "lesson". that being, not focusing in school. the very school i was getting 100% averages every grade since grade 2.
so yea...
sucked. very badly. but i think of it as the past. you can't change what happened, only revel in what could've been.
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Dude, getting a crease or fold in one of my cards or comics would be enough to make me go berserk! To see all my collections torn to bits? Id go freakin crazy!
And books from the 70's?! all of those are rare regardless of their resell value! Suck is a very very severe understatement.
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yea well what i really felt is something i'd rather not revisit.
i even had the original story line that involved gwen stacy's death along with the 70's revision. you can assume my incredible disdain for the new movie was due to the fact that gwen stacy shows up in the 3rd film as the interloper of mary jane and parkers relationship.
if you read that story line, you'd be horribly disappointed as well.
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I havent read the actual comic book but i know all the details of the event. And believe me, its not the only reason to be disappointed with Spiderman 3. The whole movie was basically disappointing.
The plot. The acting. The music. Even Venom was disappointing. Epic Fail! I enjoyed Fantastic 4 a whole lot more than Spiderman 3! At least they were loyal to the basic premise of the story.
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which is awesome but i think the last movie was only produced by the director of the others.
which sucks.
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Oh! i didnt even know that the movie had a different director and i guess that explains it. sigh. hate when they do that. Same thing happened to Blade 3 when del Toro wasnt directing as well. Xmen3 too...
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hahaha, you know blade, blade 2 and blade 3 were all written by the same person and blade 3 was directed by him.
i saw it the other night on teletoon and it became very apparent that was the case. it was closer to the vision of the script, as close as it can possibly get, but it didn't seem to be enough.
probably why directors are often not the writers. the X factor is in a separate director.
xmen 3 was such crap.
so was terminator 3. i wonder how they managed to screw both of those up so badly. it's incredible... i can't believe that happened. blade 3 wasn't nearly as bad as those two. not even close, thank god. but it still wasn't that great. i think it could've been better, even with the same actors and the same script.
they could've redone that final fight scene.
probably changed how that arrow was used. even better, i think they could've totally revamped the vision of the film yet kept the script the same and done about 9 times better.
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Exactly... the thing with Blade 1 and 2 was that the theme were darker and more serious. Blade 3 was a a huge joke to me filled with corny oneliners and poor acting. Fight scenes factored in a lot as well. The first film used almost no CGI but the choreography was so awesome that it blew my mind. The 2nd film used a lot of CGI fight scenes which utilized great camera angles and slowmo's in the proper places to get that comic book feel perfectly. Part 3? They juz shook the camera everytime a punch landed and the choreo looked like a fight scene from the 80's. Worst? WTF was Dracula running away from Blade the first time when he could have taken him there and then?
I guess the director really carries the whole thing coz del Toro did a perfect job on parts 1 and 2.
For me, the list would go this way (Worst first)
Spiderman3 - unless you're a 5yo kid
Blade3 - nuff said
T3 - at least the plot made sense
Xmen3 - It would have been better if they didnt cut out a lot of fight scenes and stayed true to the characters. Omega Red having a tattoo and that's it? Psylocke and Calisto having totally different powers? WTF was that?
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hahaha yea man. though i look at it from more of a film maker's perspective, i totally agree. the list would be different for me but yea, i would agree totally.
it's weird that the writer was so well in the first two and the third one his writing just bombed.
i mean... your right. that chase scene was absurd. totally unnecessary. but i liked the fight scenes from the last movie that didn't involve blade and dracula.
i liked it because the fists and feet would actually make contact with the enemy. (the final fight scenes were crap though)
a great deal of cgi went into it but i thought it was worth it.
the first movie had incredible fight scenes. the second seemed to have fight scenes that were too stylized. the third movie tried to marry the two concepts and did well until the last 20 minutes. minus a few things blade did.
overall though, i think compared to t3 and xmen 3, blade was slightly better. in relation to the franchise, not so much. but if you wanna compare franchises, t3 was a massive flop. i mean... t1 and t2 were amazing but t3 was rated pg and was such a piece that i can't even re-watch it without getting incredibly bored.
xmen 3, yea it was pretty bad compared to xmen 1 and 2 but it was better than t3. but the film tried so hard to fit in way too many characters and plot lines that each plot line was like a minisode.
aside from that, the hair was way too over the top and each scene looked like a barbie doll commercial. every character was just too perfect and never had any flaws, ever. yet the progression of scenes and the consistency in cinematography were wonderful. so maybe it does deserve to be above blade 3 for that, but when it comes to fight scenes, x men 3 was rancid. really. the final fight scene was a desperate attempt to seem like some kind of war yet none of it made any sense (except with kitty pryde). the juggernaut, fucking awesome. yet the film just seemed way too condensed. so it has some really great qualities and some really bad ones. i agree, it's the best of them all.
spiderman, naway. it deserves to be the worst because it simply is.
i suppose i'd put blade 3 and t3 in each others place. though t3 did seem worse than spiderman, the emo dance scene in spiderman was incredibly retarded. why!?
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Yeah... we may have little opinions that would rearrange that list but all of em sucked. LOL.
Xmen 3 was actually great for me if they didnt change Psylocke, Calisto, Omega Red and other characters. Wish they deleted the whole wolvie vs mutants (those were mutants? Carrying guns and only 1 had powers? And naming one of em Omega Red coz he had an omega tattoo?) scene and included all the deleted fight scenes as well.
BTW, did you see the deleted fight scenes? The original Wolvie vs Juggernaut was more brutal and longer. And there were also scenes of Collosus and Iceman doing a tagteam. Bobby iced one huge guy and Collosus broke him into small pieces!
As for Spidey emo look, that was pretty much shit. That was the writer's view of a badass? An emo looking guy who dances in the streets and jumping on tables like some retard? They really have to think things better on Part 4 if they wanna keep the franchise alive.
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no doubt man, no doubt.
they have to really rethink a great deal about the 4rth movie of spiderman.
but as for your question regarding deleted scenes, no i didn't get a chance to see them.
the movie itself was too condensed for me and that was my biggest beef but the fact that it had deleted scenes worthy of praise actually really intrigues me. i think i might go about looking for this...
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It doesnt really add anything to the story but at least the deleted action scenes provided more action with mutants rather than "supposed powered mutants" in the forest scene.
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yea. i was kinda bemused by that. the whole power lacking dudes he fought. the only guy who had apparent powers was the spiked guy with the weird ass elbows. even then it was kinda uneventful.
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yeah...up to now, im still puzzled why they chose to keep that whole f'd up scene. They could juz let wolvie sneak in, detected by Maggy and throw him a hundred miles away. Sigh.
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hahaha. well they kinda needed some action sequences. i mean that whole thing with the replicating guy. i dunno his name... that was kinda boring. it just seemed so pointless. they could've done something way more entertaining and over the top. what would be cooler than wiping every one of those guys out with some kind of awesome power/plan.
instead they replicated all of one guy and then used heat vision to show him return to himself.
that was kind of anti climactic. in fact... that was my biggest beef was the overall anticlimactic nature of the film. the whole wolvie taking out jean grey was alright but that also seemed kinda anti climactic.
then again, i do have really high standards for climactic endings...
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The ending and the whole plot was ok with me but its how they went through the individual events like Wolvie's fight in the forest that f'd things up.
The replicating man is actually X-Factor's Multiple man aka Jamie Madrox.
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ok that's cool. they had a lot of options to work with and a lot of money to make some final, gigantic epic scene and i think the idea of wolverine fighting to get to her and stab her was great in theory but i really don't know if the cinematography was in it. it felt too much like tinker toys to me. as though the movie was quite obviously on a set. the final fight in x men 1 was in the freaking statue of liberty, that was epic. i liked that. though the power control aspect was a little abstract i thought it was pretty cool. i think they could've done better with a bit more creativity.
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I think they did a good job with the location as it allowed magneto to show his powers with the bridge thingie. I dont think they could have used another iconic place as it was an attack on where leech was hidden. But i agree that they couldve done better though. Like show the vast sea in the background rising as Wolverine approached Phoenix
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that was pretty cool, i have to admit. the bridge thing was awesome shit.
i would've liked seeing magnito's powers go full swing in a crowded area. he could tear through a few buildings like they were made of paper and then finish it all off with that bridge thing. that would've been awesome. i liked how he picked up chunks of the bridge and threw them but it seemed like he didn't really take a very active roll in the attacks, unlike the comic books i remember as a child.
that was supposed to be leech!? wtf. i read those comics and i seem to recall leech being green and not having a nose. how the hell did he end up like that!? like i know he was a little boy and he had to be knocked out to have his powers dissipate but damn... having him green without a nose would've been fricken awesome. even having him crawl through the sewers with a couple weirdo's from some street mutant gang would've been cool as shit. i remember that from the comic books.
but the bridge thing was pretty awesome. maybe if the X-men took leech and hid him somewhere else, like in the sewer system... but i guess magnito did have his HQ there. i dunno. putting him on that tiny island after a transportation would've been satisfying as well. the thing i don't understand is if spiderman and X-men are both in new york, why did they never do a cross over? heck, ironman and the hulk crossed over and they're both in the same universe as spiderman and X-men. worse yet, they're both in new york as i recall.
man, that is one crowded city.
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Haha... Indeed New York is one crowded city and you got Luke Cage there as well. Hell's Kitchen is in New York too right? im not sure though.
But the Xmen and Spidey did have few crossovers bro since the 80's. Nate Grey (X-man) was one of the closest friends of Spidey even. Spidey appeared in Xman and Xman appeared in Spiderman regularly for a a few months.
As for Leech, i didnt have a problem with him looking human actually. I dont care much about the looks as long as they got the character and powers right. Giving Callisto superspeed was stupid. Giving Psylocke phasing (or whatever) was stupid. Having Omega Red in the movie only with a tattoo and no powers was the most stupid!
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oh man i was talking about the movie.
i know they cross over in the comic book.
hence why i brought it up.
i wonder if stan lee considered that.
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Oh... in the 80's they did a few crossovers i think like Hulk and Thor. There was also a Hulk and Daredevil movie. They also did Spiderfriends toons in the 80's with Iceman, Spidey and Firestar together.
But for current movies, i dont think a crossover would be good. It would be great for the fans but the latter generations and non comic fans wont be able to relate. For us, seeing Xmen and Spidey in real life together would be awesome! For non comic fans, theyll probably say they're under one team or complain how the story was juz Spiderman meeting the Xmen.
But im happy that they're making the Avengers movie in 09 though with all the original casts!
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hahaha, dude.
the movie, incredible hulk had a cross over with iron man.
the least spiderman could do would be a news paper clipping. that actually wouldn't be so bad...
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Well you got me there but Ironman is the first ever film that Marvel has made on their own. And they have complete rights for Ironman, Hulk and other Avenger related film they're gonna do here on out.
The thing with Spidey, Blade, GR, DD, Xmen and Elektra is that they were produced by different other companies like 20th Century Fox so they cant readily use em. And if they could've, the filmmakers werent looking at Marvel as a universal view but rather separate franchises.
Unlike Marvel's plans for Ironman, Hulk, Cap and Thor which will unite them all on Avengers in the future.
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that's pretty awesome.
i forgot about all of that. you're so right.
it would've been cool if could have that kind of cross over but also impossible. i'm so glad they decided to do it themselves. big business companies seem to really destroy the franchises.
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Yep... we have seen the latest installments of Spidey, Xmen and Blade. Im really happy they decided to do em on their own. Im juz wondering why they never did that in the first placE! Its not like they didnt have the cash flow to back things up!
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yea no doubt. i wonder how dc comics is doing, they only have 2 heavy hitters.
though virtigo comics is even more powerful as an idea than dc comics right now.
virtigo is under dc right?
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Yeah, Vertigo is still under DC and the only movie that ever came out of them was Constantine of Hellblazer. Other than that, nothing.
As for DC itself, they have had plans for Wonderwoman and Flash but they always get canned or delayed. Dont know why. Ryan Reynolds was rumored to be playing Flash. He turned it down. Guess he liked being Deadpool more. ;D
They also have plans for a JLA movie but if they dont get Routh as Supes and Bale as Batman, it will flop bigtime.
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no offfense but routh was a horrible choice if you ask me.
i mean... if they intended on doing a new movie rather than a sequel, routh would've been more than a prime choice but it was a sequel and i think that decimates the nature of the decision they made.
but deadpool was an awesome choice.
thought flash's appeal comes more from character i have to admit, deadpool would've been my choice as well.
jla is going to be a flop anyway.
don't matter if they choose bale and routh.
jla was a concept designed by corporate assholes who bought out superman and batman and every other major hero at that time, including the original superman, shazzam!
in the end, jla, robin and any other corporate decision will remain flops until someone revisions them into something worth watching. something that's less derivative and totally unique and meaningful.
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I guess we have our own opinions.
As for JLA and other comicbooks to film adaptations, i think the key to success is staying true to the original concept of the characters. They have to be grounded to the core of the comic book. Anybody can give anyone a Batman costume but not anybody can pull it off.
I cant wait for The Watchmen! I havent read the comic book but seeing what the director did with 300, its surely gonna be a success!
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Keep it up bro! love the pose and how you render it!
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Nah... wa pa chicks gihapon bai. wala ayo! I juz get my inspiration from the almighty $$$. hehe.
And of course, who doesnt enjoy drawing superheroes anyway?
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hahaha..good source of inspiration!hehe..
Well keep it up!i'm enjoying to see your progress!I'm sure expecting a pouring $$$ for you this month!haha..good luck!
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Well, its not much since im asking for only $10-15 which is waaaaaaaayyy cheaper than most commissions go. LOL. Salamat Bay!
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It's absolutely amazing. The pose came out perfect.
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Thanks SFA! Had a reference for this piece's pose though but i changed the arms from scratch.
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Haha.. juz obeying the orders of the customer but yeah, he is basically an Orange Lantern in terms of costume and physical attributes.
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He looks cool though! And you did a bang up job on the artwork!!
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