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Published: 2008-02-23 17:59:12 +0000 UTC; Views: 927; Favourites: 3; Downloads: 34
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Description This is my first attempt at a digital landscape painting in oils. I'm trying to be a bit more diversified and thought I'd try my hand at it. Go easy on me, I was learning. Any tips especially from veteran painters would be greatly appreciated.

Done in Painter IX
Under 5 hours
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Comments: 34

thetifftiff [2008-03-17 23:57:12 +0000 UTC]

The foreground looks really good, especially the closer grass and rocks. However once you get past the cave every thing looks a bit too blurry and out of focus. I wish I had advice but a painter I am not.

I really like the colours you used though, especially in the sky.

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shiroboi In reply to thetifftiff [2008-03-18 02:38:05 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the comment. I'm working on being a better background painter, I haven't had much practice at it. I did want things to be less in focus as they go back, especially the background. Maybe I overdid it a bit though.

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Wan-To [2008-02-26 19:55:05 +0000 UTC]

I don't know if you wanted it to be photorealistic or not, but now it seems like from a fairy-tale. I think the colors should be less saturated and more shades of the green could be there.

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shiroboi In reply to Wan-To [2008-02-26 23:32:11 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I really struggle with colors, I can never seem to get them natural enough. I'll keep working at them. Thanks for the comment.

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Damaged927 [2008-02-26 15:23:36 +0000 UTC]

I like it. I think it looks really good as well. The roots from the tree coming down in front of the cave is a really nice touch. For a first try this is damn good I'm a fan of how the lighting darkens as it enters the cave, it adds an ominous feel.

Sadly, I can't really critique this as I am no BG artist myself

But anyways, great work!

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shiroboi In reply to Damaged927 [2008-02-26 23:32:56 +0000 UTC]

Hey, thanks for the comments, I really appreciate them. One day, i'll be able to create realistic stuff. Just gotta keep trying.

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Damaged927 In reply to shiroboi [2008-02-27 11:45:41 +0000 UTC]

Exactly But this shows it won't take you to long

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shiroboi In reply to Damaged927 [2008-02-27 14:10:23 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, i'm getting the hang of it. I just need a bit more practice and technique.

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FragmentedTear [2008-02-26 05:15:03 +0000 UTC]

Pretty~!

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shiroboi In reply to FragmentedTear [2008-02-26 13:16:45 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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phli [2008-02-25 23:19:31 +0000 UTC]

I can definitely see a lot of improvement here from your other PS works! Great job!

I love the realism you put into this, and the colour combinations/texture of the rock is sporkin' in my book

Can't really give you more 'tips' on this because I'm a traditionalist meself (primitivity, ftw!)

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shiroboi In reply to phli [2008-02-26 00:31:42 +0000 UTC]

Well, I'm more looking for painterly tips, not so much in the Photoshop department. I do need to mix up my color pallette much more than I'm doing here and use alot more warm highlights and cool shadows. It was good practice, I'll leave it as is and move on. Thanks for the comments.

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KomaruKirinashi [2008-02-25 19:14:34 +0000 UTC]

Well, the color scheme just screams of your style, if that makes any sense. It reminds me of a few Charred Dirt maps mixed together. I'm impressed with the hills in the background, as I've always had trouble with those.

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shiroboi In reply to KomaruKirinashi [2008-02-25 20:13:59 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, hard to get away from my own art style since its, you know, mine. hehe. For background hills, just make sure they're really desaturated and a tad out of focus. You also don't want alot of detail back there. Makes it seem far away.

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BeenieMaster [2008-02-25 03:55:24 +0000 UTC]

Great work!

I think that the hill just behind the cave could use a little more attention. I see some lines that kinda look like squiggles (I really don't mean that in a bad way). There's good shading underneath the wiggly lines. I think it'd be just as good with that shading alone if you don't want to do individual blades of grass.

I think it's a great start though. And I envy your ability to digitally paint on one layer. I can paint on canvas just fine, but with Photoshop, I know I have the safety of layers and have yet to resist using them.

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shiroboi In reply to BeenieMaster [2008-02-25 14:23:55 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I see what you mean. I like the treatment of the left side of the hill but the right is a tad lacking. If you've ever painted with real oil paints, its all on one layer of canvas so its not a huge step to do so in photoshop or painter. Its kindof refreshing getting back to straight painting. You should try it. Thanks for the comments, very well thought out.

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s7eventan [2008-02-24 06:56:15 +0000 UTC]

It looks great for a first attempt. I think it would be much better if some details were added so it can be more realistic (batches of grass in the foreground).
Anyway keep it up

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shiroboi In reply to s7eventan [2008-02-24 17:40:00 +0000 UTC]

Thanks. I'll keep trying to make these better.

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RavenWolfByTheStream [2008-02-23 20:32:59 +0000 UTC]

Wow thats great.

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shiroboi In reply to RavenWolfByTheStream [2008-02-23 22:10:26 +0000 UTC]

Thanks.

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RavenWolfByTheStream In reply to shiroboi [2008-02-24 22:40:51 +0000 UTC]

your welcome.

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Dracuria [2008-02-23 18:46:47 +0000 UTC]

Wow thats really good for a first try! , it certainly does look like a painting

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shiroboi In reply to Dracuria [2008-02-23 19:11:42 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! It is a painting. I only used one layer.

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phli In reply to shiroboi [2008-02-25 23:24:15 +0000 UTC]

Wait, so I'm a bit confused yarr. A painting in PS is classified by the number of layers? So if it has more than one is it just called 'digital' art or whatever?

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shiroboi In reply to phli [2008-02-26 00:29:52 +0000 UTC]

Digital is anything done on the computer. Even if I'm painting on one layer its technically digital although I'm approaching the piece just like if I would a normal oil painting, without using layers or any sort of photoshop magic.

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Dracuria In reply to shiroboi [2008-02-23 20:23:11 +0000 UTC]

Youre welcome!
Yes, but I tought of a traditional painting with real paint and all

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shiroboi In reply to Dracuria [2008-02-23 22:10:06 +0000 UTC]

Oh yeah. Could have done it that way but I don't have any paints at the moment. Its faster and cleaner on the computer.

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Dracuria In reply to shiroboi [2008-02-23 22:28:23 +0000 UTC]

Hahaha yeah

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Ekuneshiel [2008-02-23 18:19:31 +0000 UTC]

It really depend on what you want to use it for. If it's a backdrop for a cartoon, I'd say leave it as it is. If you were shooting for a more traditional feel, you need a.) more darks: if you totally desaturate this, how much contrast is there?, b.) color variation. Right now it looks like you just used the values of one portion of the color wheel (which isn't a bad thing in certain situations). Try making the things that are being exposed to sunlight or reflected sunlight a little yellow, and the things in shadow a little blue or purple.

Whew, sorry for the long-winded comment. That's pretty much everything I learned in my landscape painting class.

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shiroboi In reply to Ekuneshiel [2008-02-23 19:36:10 +0000 UTC]

Don't be sorry, that was dead on. I worked in some yellows on the highlights but not much on the cool shadows. I was aware of that. I also noticed how little value contrast I had in the picture. Originally it was alot duller but I popped it into photoshop and adjusted the levels. I wasn't really intending this picture as a backgdrop for anything, just practice. Thanks for the awesome critique. I really appreciate it and will take it to heart.

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Ekuneshiel In reply to shiroboi [2008-02-23 20:26:22 +0000 UTC]

Any time, my friend, any time.

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shiroboi In reply to Ekuneshiel [2008-02-23 22:10:40 +0000 UTC]

Awesome, you rock.

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frankman [2008-02-23 18:04:37 +0000 UTC]

I'm not a great bg artist myself, & for a first try it's pretty well made. Textures, especially in the rocks are well defined, & the color depth further back makes it more convincing

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shiroboi In reply to frankman [2008-02-23 19:11:16 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, I appreciate the well thought out comment. I feel the depth isn't quite as good as I was expecting but turned out alright.

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