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Well, I haven't submited anything for ages!And I know this is not really art, but I have seen a lot of TLK family trees (all!) that show things that really annoys me.
Anyway, this is a family of all named (apart from Kopa who I assume is 'Fluffy') characters from all LK films.
Lets look at the different relationships
~Mufasa+Sarabi=Simba - We all know this is true. We've seen the movie. Simba doesn't look very much like Sarabi, but we must remeber that this is a childrens film (which everyone, including myself, take too seriously XD) so Simba needs to looks like the heroic father he wants to be like. It needs to be obvious.
~Sarafina is Nala's mother - Once again, we know this as it is shown in the movie, with good evidence as they look almost identical. Nala has none of the male characters (Scar(Taka) and Mufasa) characteristics, so I think her father is a rouge. Though she has basically inherted everything from her mother, which is genetically wrong, but must be shown in a childrens film to show them the link.
~Simba+Nala=Kopa(Fluffy)/ Kiara- there are many views on this. The makers of LK say that the cub at the end of TLK is Kiara, though it is ovbiously a boy, and a different clolour with a different ceremony. Though we can't trust SP as all of the characters have been changed dramatically. Then there is the problem of the comics with Kopa. Some say that these are not canon as they were only planned after TLk, and some make a story explaining why there is no more Kopa.
~Nala+Taka(Scar)=Vitani - This is just an idea, but Vitani doesn't look anything like Zira. Her fawny colour could have been from mixing Nala's cream and Taka's red fur colour. And she has the build in the middle of both, with Pridelander and Outlander characteristics. Then there's the problem of how she is born. Lions can have cubs, each cub from a different father. So maybe, before Nala finds simba, she and Taka had some 'fun', then Nala found Simba and did the same. This would mean, if you believe in Kopa then Kiara, that Vitani was born at the same time as Kopa, so her age is wrong in the second film, as she seems the same age as Kiara. Maybe this is because she stayed small on the meager meals of the Outlands?
~Taka+Zira=Nuka - Assuming that Zira was in the background of TLK, as Sp wasn't planned when TLK was made, I think that Nuka is Zira's and Taka's. He looks very Taka-like, build, facial structure and mane colour, but his fur is too smoky. Maybe one of Zira's family was a smoky colour and the gene suddenly appeared with Nuka.
~Zira+Unknown=Kovu - We know that Taka is not Kovu's father from the makers of LK. Also, he is to brown to be Zira's and Taka's, as Zira is fawn, and Taka red. To me, he doesn't really look like Zira, but I'm working on that.
And last, but not least
~ Musafa and Taka not being brothers - even if it says in the film that they are brothers, there is no way they can be. However you jumble around their characteristics to make their parents, there is no way that they would get all the build from one parent and colour from another. They have to be a mix-a medium.
Adoptive brothers still call each-other brothers. That is my argument
Anyways, any comments will be appreciated.
I know I don't have many watchers, but if you would like to show another LK fan my ideas, please don't hesitate. I would love to hear what other think of my ideas.
Yes, I do have ideas for chars like Tama, Tojo, Mheeto, Kula, Chumvi and Malka, but I thought it would make this tree too busy. If you want I can make a tree containing everyone.
Credit to whoever made the sprites (cause I can't remember)
27/11/11
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Comments: 35
albinokittens300 [2013-05-21 21:34:17 +0000 UTC]
i like it mostly the nala x scar = vitani it- to me at least- makes most sense like you pointed out she looks nothing like zira i just dont buy that shes vitanis mother
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xXGoldenPheonixXx [2013-02-08 21:05:50 +0000 UTC]
Kovu is actually adopted by both Zira and Scar (taka)
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silentwind13 In reply to xXGoldenPheonixXx [2013-02-09 00:08:17 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for your opinion. But, it is still an opinion. Though it says in the movie that Zira is his 'mother', this could mean adoptive, and though it is said that Scar wasn't his father, this could just be a lie. Or real. It depends what you think :3
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xXGoldenPheonixXx In reply to silentwind13 [2013-02-09 00:44:13 +0000 UTC]
Well even though they say....Kovu probably grew attached to Zira because Kovu was ripped away from his real mother
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silentwind13 In reply to xXGoldenPheonixXx [2013-02-09 16:25:56 +0000 UTC]
Though I agree with you, I still don't think you should impose your opinions on others.
I don't understand why Disney didn't make Zira and Kovu - or Nuka or Vitani - look like 'their parents'. Meh, it just lets us fans rein to make interesting stories and theories, so I'm not complaining
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xXGoldenPheonixXx In reply to silentwind13 [2013-02-09 20:30:38 +0000 UTC]
well i'm not disagreeing with you i just like to see what others think
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silentwind13 In reply to xXGoldenPheonixXx [2013-02-09 21:03:06 +0000 UTC]
I didn't say you were?
I know, I love it!!
I've changed my mind since making this, and my more detailed one, so I need to update them :3
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xXGoldenPheonixXx In reply to silentwind13 [2013-02-09 21:12:52 +0000 UTC]
oh well i look forward to seeing your updated one
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mylifeits [2012-05-16 19:17:04 +0000 UTC]
Isnt it sarafina x scar/taka > nala
and scar/taka > nuka and vitani?
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silentwind13 In reply to mylifeits [2012-05-17 16:31:40 +0000 UTC]
Well, this is my opinion. I think that Nala looks nothing like Taka, so I don't think that he would have been her dad.
And, I say in the tree that I think that Taka is both Nuka and Vitani's dad?
If you want to see more of my thoughts, you can look here [link] for a more detailed tree. (Though it is abit controversial)
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mylifeits In reply to silentwind13 [2012-05-17 17:22:38 +0000 UTC]
Thats true, they she doesnt look like her dad at all
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silentwind13 In reply to mylifeits [2012-05-17 17:27:13 +0000 UTC]
Who are you talking about? Nala or Vitani?
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mylifeits In reply to silentwind13 [2012-05-17 19:07:18 +0000 UTC]
both but mainly bout Nala
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silentwind13 In reply to mylifeits [2012-05-18 17:55:37 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, she is a clone of her mother (though in designing, it's probably the other way around, as Nala is a more important char than Sarafina.) I think this is because the creators thought that they needed to show the link that Sarafina was Nala's mother, but I think they went a little too far. Either Nala got everything from her mother (not really possible), or her father had the same sort of features as Sarafina.
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mylifeits In reply to silentwind13 [2012-05-18 19:17:25 +0000 UTC]
I guess they didn't want to show the... yknow incest err
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mylifeits In reply to silentwind13 [2012-05-19 07:28:41 +0000 UTC]
If Scar is Nala's father, and Simba's uncle its incest, right?
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silentwind13 In reply to mylifeits [2012-05-19 14:52:20 +0000 UTC]
Well, that statement conflicts with many of my views.
1. I don't think that Mufasa and Taka are brothers, so if Taka was Nala's father, it wouldn't matter.
2. I don't think that Taka is Nala's father
3. It's only incest in some views. It is legal to marry your cousin, (in some places, I don't know where it isn't legal) and if Taka was Nala's father, and Mufasa's brother, then they would be cousins, and in some/most societies legal to marry anyway (though frowned apon) - this is thinking of them from their people side of them.
But is you look from their lion side, male lions will mate with all lionesses, all the mothers, aunts, sisters, etc., whether they are his real sisters, half sisters or cousins. Any female!!
So yeah.
But if you believe that Muffy and Taka are brothers, and that Taka is Nala's father (which is fine if you do ) then yes, it would be incest
(though depending on how you look at what 'incest' is. - see above
)
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mylifeits In reply to silentwind13 [2012-05-19 16:00:49 +0000 UTC]
Yup. I once made a video (@ yt) kiara x simba nd kovu x nala (crossover yknow didnt have any meanings by it) still getting comments OMGGGG INCEEESSTTTT .___.' ain't that much of a deal is it? Besides like you said lions well 'do' ever lioness. Guess it doesnt really matter if according to disney nala and simba are cousins
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silentwind13 In reply to mylifeits [2012-05-19 17:04:54 +0000 UTC]
Exactly. And, on the internet, you will always have people that don't read the description of your video/picture, and comment things like that. You just have to ignore it. It's obviously just for fun, and not serious.
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mylifeits In reply to silentwind13 [2012-05-19 18:37:34 +0000 UTC]
'' Welcome to the internet ''
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silentwind13 In reply to yomh21 [2012-02-17 11:22:38 +0000 UTC]
Do you mean the larger tree? Yeah, that one needs work.
Thanks
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Rosenezz [2012-02-16 20:53:59 +0000 UTC]
Makes sense! Though I still have not figured out where Kopa, Tama, Tojo, Mheeto, Kula, Chumvi, and Malka come from though..
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silentwind13 In reply to Rosenezz [2012-02-17 11:28:41 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, these are the film chars. I'm trying to work out where the comic chars go on my other tree...
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Rosenezz In reply to silentwind13 [2012-02-17 20:09:24 +0000 UTC]
.. WHOA. There's a comic? *... 17, loves lion king, and had no idea*
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silentwind13 In reply to Rosenezz [2012-02-17 20:22:40 +0000 UTC]
There's more than one!!!
*Thinks of ways of showing you all of them*
[link] I found this. I had no idea there was this many. I've only heard of the most famous 6, where Kopa, Tama etc are from
Anyway, if you Google/Bing (or whatever) the name of the comic, then put 'online', it should come up with it.
I've only read a few, so maybe I should read the rest, to help with my bigger family tree.
Anyway, if you didn't know about the comics, then where did you think Kopa, Tama etc. came from?
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Rosenezz In reply to silentwind13 [2012-02-18 00:16:35 +0000 UTC]
I thought never put together that a lot of people knew about Kopa and Tama, I thought it was only a few people and they were friends so they know about them.. I dunno why I thought that buuttt
Thank you so much~~ *knows what I'm doing for the rest of the night*
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baltoscamplover4ever [2012-02-16 19:45:40 +0000 UTC]
I really like your theories and the tree!
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silentwind13 In reply to baltoscamplover4ever [2012-02-17 11:27:58 +0000 UTC]
Why thank you!
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