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ok big rant now:I love vampires as much as any sparkler hater, but people before you defend them please, please, please be well versed in the myth. Don't act like a know it all and then shell out false info. If you don't know, thats okay, but seriously don't pretend otherwise.
first off, the first vamp wasn't Dracula, wasn't Lord Byron's the Vampyre, AND IT DEFINITELY ISN"T A TWILIGHT VAMPIRE!!!
first sign(or at least, the earliest mention) of the myth was Slavic. NOT Romanian(that was ol' Vlad the impailer)
they were hideous and usually believed to rise from the bodies of suicide victims, criminals, or evil sorcerers. They drank blood for sustenance and did not care wether it was human or animal.
Staking came up cause people believed that if they put a stake through the heart straight through to the ground they would pin them down and keep them from rising.
As for the religious aspects of it, it was the early 8-10 centuries, that should go without saying more.
anywho, rant over going to bed
Edit: Some new info has been given to me by the lovely , about vampires in Bulgarian folklore. Enlighten yourselves!
"Most often vampires are death people, buried not properly, and you may have heard of it. Or if they have committed suicide or have been killed violently. Also, very old people and people, who have been living immoral life, can become vampires according to the believes. As well-women, died while giving birth, dead born children or died before being converted. Vampire can be too a ghost of ancestor in a particular family. Some people have been build into buildings and that is one more variation of a vampire.
As for the description of the vampires, it depends on the function they have in particular moment or the way they develop with the age. The young vampire is fragile and appears like a shadow. He disturbs the peace in the house making different noises.When he grows up, he looks like a bellow, has weight and is strangle the people, while they are sleeping at night.Later, the vampire turns into an animal and is throwing down objects and stuff and its drinking blood.One year after his appearance the vampire finally looks like a human and can even marry and have children.
So, after one year vampire looks like a human again and can live with the other people like before.He can transform into cats, goats and such.Most often the legends are about vampiric males but they can also be women and children.
What is a vampire-devil soul.It is believed that the devil turns vampires into bellows, as I stated earlier.Vampire is a ghost, consisting of flesh with no bones,the man`s soul with the same image, a dead man`soul, upon which a shadow has been fallen before his funeral.
How the vampire looks like?-The vampire is invisible.He is like a shadow,a passing shadow, as if wind is passing.He can looks like a piece of a fabric, which is folding and unfolding.Odd, but he can appear also like a fire, or in the woods can be seen like a flaming balls,jumping from tree to tree.Bellow, full with blood, is one more of the possible looks of the vampire.He can be like a bagpipes, full with blood and rolling on the ground like a sphere.
Vampire can be something big, like a bull`s head,hairy,which is running and screaming.Big fearful creature with sharp nails and big polished eyes.As a pig`s or ox`s head,rolling.The vampire can transform into the animal, happened to jump over his grave-cat, chicken,dog ,donkey, goat, white horse, white cow, ox, deer,mouse goose frog snake black butterfly.It can be bigger or smaller, appearing like a human and then to disappear, as if sinking in the ground
What can cause someone to turn into a vampire-as already mentioned shadow falling on the dead man before the funeral or jumped over from a man or animal, most often cat.There are really many ways-to be born with the help of the Devil, to be cursed to become a vampire.
So, the vision of the vampire in my area is quite different.And I would say more scary, especially because the vampire is invisible or is like a shadow.More of the things he is doing-he is stealing stuff from other houses and bring it into the house he was living.It can be seen only the moving object.People, born in Saturday, and animals can recognize the vampire.My personal opinion is that these animals are mostly cats, for cats have very sharp senses and you have heard maybe, that principally they are sensing invisible forces.
The vampire can return to his wife and lie to her some things when asked how it is so he returns.And the vampire has fear from salt also.Something very interesting-old people in my area were claiming, that when the electricity has came into their homes, the vampires have disappeared.Or rather the superstitions have disappeared."
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plzwork112234 [2013-12-13 10:31:31 +0000 UTC]
Also the first Vampire was Lamastu, an Assyrian Goddess who would enter the homes of children and kill them, sometimes eating them. Lamastu would also suck the blood from adults, particularly young men, she brought disease onto them. She has wings and bird like talons. To protect from her, the Assyrians would wear an amulet depicting Pazuzu, an evil God who once defeated her.
In some old Jewish text, Lilith was the original woman, not Eve (although this is non-canonical in the Bible) Lilith refused to marry Adam and was banished from Eden. Lilith started baring children years later, and she had many. God said he would kill 100 of her children every day until she returned. She then swore to kill human children eating them and sucking their blood. She would also seduce men, making her also the first Succubus.
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plzwork112234 [2013-12-13 08:44:59 +0000 UTC]
Vlad Tepes III was a real person, not a Vampire.
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Redropp [2011-11-22 23:34:12 +0000 UTC]
I did my research. I accept them. I talk to them on a regular basis.
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1000yearseternalmaze [2011-04-27 20:12:15 +0000 UTC]
By the way, I am Bulgarian, so I can take a part in the discussion about vampires in East Europe.
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Silverwingfox In reply to 1000yearseternalmaze [2011-04-27 20:20:07 +0000 UTC]
I'd love to hear about it. The most I get is from some books at the library but I don't know how much of that is reliable
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1000yearseternalmaze In reply to Silverwingfox [2011-04-28 07:12:06 +0000 UTC]
If you want note me.I can tell some things about what a vampire is in East Europe.I have got very interesting book about it.
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fuxxinsomnia [2010-06-16 00:25:01 +0000 UTC]
I agree with you, false info shouldn't be spread just because you think you know something (I'm writing a vamp story with some made up things and I'm not telling everyone that it's true so really)
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Silverwingfox In reply to fuxxinsomnia [2010-06-16 00:48:30 +0000 UTC]
yea, some people start making up crap like they know everything, and then play along despite OVERWHELMING evidence(im looking at you Stephanie Meyer)
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fuxxinsomnia In reply to Silverwingfox [2010-06-16 01:27:59 +0000 UTC]
yeah, no kidding (bloody sparkling woodlands "vampires")
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Silverwingfox In reply to fuxxinsomnia [2010-06-16 04:57:39 +0000 UTC]
no cause she tries to play it off, hell, she plays everything stupid thing she says off. I mean in defending her series she has actually knocked the works of Shakespeare,Bronte, every other BETTER romance, the army, politicians, women, Disney, etc... the list goes on
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whitebearboy In reply to Silverwingfox [2023-02-03 05:38:16 +0000 UTC]
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fuxxinsomnia In reply to Silverwingfox [2010-06-16 23:03:57 +0000 UTC]
and you just don't f*** with Shakespeare
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Silverwingfox In reply to fuxxinsomnia [2010-06-16 23:09:37 +0000 UTC]
never, especially when you (LOOOOOOSELY) base something off his work
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fuxxinsomnia In reply to Silverwingfox [2010-06-16 23:22:06 +0000 UTC]
so loosely that you're not even close
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fuxxinsomnia In reply to Silverwingfox [2010-06-17 01:33:00 +0000 UTC]
it's good to know that someone out there isn't totally misinformed
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themindbowler [2010-05-30 02:23:44 +0000 UTC]
isnt lilith one of the oldest ones shes from mesopotamian myths and hebrew
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Silverwingfox In reply to themindbowler [2010-05-30 15:22:54 +0000 UTC]
idk, the books i read on vampires stated slavic as the source, but they didnt specify about vampires
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themindbowler In reply to Silverwingfox [2010-05-31 04:10:09 +0000 UTC]
ya well she more of a night demon who drinks babies blood so not a hunderd percent but close
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Silverwingfox In reply to themindbowler [2010-05-31 04:17:09 +0000 UTC]
sounds like a vampire from wayyyyyyyyy back, before they started adding stuff like fangs, shapeshifting, etc
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themindbowler In reply to Silverwingfox [2010-05-31 04:30:03 +0000 UTC]
ya she had bird wings and owl claws
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Silverwingfox In reply to themindbowler [2010-05-31 04:42:12 +0000 UTC]
thats even farther back
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themindbowler In reply to Silverwingfox [2010-05-31 04:52:38 +0000 UTC]
ya and in the hebrew stories she was the first wife of adem but turnd evil and was replaced by eve she then became a evil spirt that raped men when they sleepd impregnating her self and creating more of her evil of spring like vampires ,monsters ,giants ,ect.
and she killed babies
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Silverwingfox In reply to themindbowler [2010-05-31 17:04:52 +0000 UTC]
hmm now trinity blood makes a little bit more sense
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hatake-jaden [2010-05-23 12:03:40 +0000 UTC]
Actually... The first vampire myth was Lilith adams OTHER wife....
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Wycca [2009-08-29 06:26:57 +0000 UTC]
Things that are very similar to vampires(or are at least blood drinking undead) pop up in a lot more places then Slavic myth actually. Though that's kind of a technicality.
Where did you get your information by the way? I frequently have to take part in a argument that's more or less the same and I like to have things to cite.
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Silverwingfox In reply to Wycca [2009-08-29 22:29:54 +0000 UTC]
bits and pieces were from several books, one i think was called i think was called an illustrated encyclopedia of mythology(a slavic section specifically), vampire book: the encyclopedia of the undead, the vampire encyclopedia. I've read some other books which were just things like undead encyclopedia, etc.. if you're looking for vamp info in a book it suggest getting it from an old book, cause anything recent actually dares to cite twilight as an origin.
as for the rest, that was mostly info i got from cross referencing online and with the books.
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Wycca In reply to Silverwingfox [2009-08-29 22:33:23 +0000 UTC]
Wait what? twilight...origin... I've lost faith in humanity.
Although I have read one of those I've never heard of the others. Thank you.
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Silverwingfox In reply to Wycca [2009-08-29 23:45:18 +0000 UTC]
those are mostly books i found at a school library, because I lost hope for the fiction section
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Wycca In reply to Silverwingfox [2009-08-30 00:46:38 +0000 UTC]
Lucky for you, my school library has a copy of Dracula and 2 of each Twilight book.
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Silverwingfox In reply to Wycca [2009-08-30 03:55:57 +0000 UTC]
well technically im cheating cause im talking about the university's library XD though unfortunately it also has its share of twilight spawn
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Wycca In reply to Silverwingfox [2009-08-30 04:20:23 +0000 UTC]
I've never even thought to look in the university's library. I'm stealing your idea.
I hope they don't inspire books by other people.
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Silverwingfox In reply to Wycca [2009-08-30 04:30:49 +0000 UTC]
well considering its the university they tend to have better stuff than a cheap school library
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Wycca In reply to Silverwingfox [2009-08-30 04:32:42 +0000 UTC]
I actually found books on Cryptozoology in mine but I've never looked for vampire.
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Silverwingfox In reply to Wycca [2009-08-31 01:06:20 +0000 UTC]
usually I find it by not looking for it
its always in my face when i want something else, but it decides to play hardcore hide and seek when i want it
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Wycca In reply to Silverwingfox [2009-08-31 01:36:08 +0000 UTC]
That happens to me a lot too. Only with really weird books.
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Silverwingfox In reply to Wycca [2009-08-31 03:00:44 +0000 UTC]
ahhh, its always the truly weird that escapes me T^T
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Silverwingfox In reply to deoxymelt [2009-08-06 18:17:24 +0000 UTC]
actually its not. I looked it up and it says :
Slavic peoples are classified into West Slavic (including Czechs, Kashubians, Moravians, Poles, Silesians, Slovaks and Sorbs), East Slavic (including Belarusians, Russians, Rusyns and Ukrainians), and South Slavic (including Bosniaks, Bulgarians, Croats, Macedonians, Montenegrins, Serbs and Slovenes).
and I found another source stating that Romanians are influenced by many cultures, one of them being slavic
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