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Description Command and Conquer Generals 2 featuring all the generals from the upcoming game for the European Union, Asian Pacific Alliance and Global Liberation Army.
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MaddKossack115 In reply to ??? [2014-01-21 05:00:12 +0000 UTC]

...So, any news on which studio's taking this up after EA sacked the original developers?  If it is, at least tell me this project hasn't been wiped out for good.


Believe me, in spite of C&C:G2's (oops, I mean C&C 2013's) faults, it was still the closest EA had to getting the goodwill back from RTS fans after royally fucking up C&C 4.


And THEN they decide to cancel this game, in spite of it showing far more promise in terms of story, and even gameplay, than C&C 4 ever did.

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Sinistha In reply to MaddKossack115 [2014-01-21 05:36:33 +0000 UTC]

EA said another studio is going to finish the game but it wont be a free to play model. But i dont know if they will keep to their word. EA after all has been the company voted worst in America on forbes' list.

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MaddKossack115 In reply to Sinistha [2014-01-21 05:55:20 +0000 UTC]

No offense, but I'm one of the guys who don't think EA deserved the title of "Worst Company in America".  No offense, but EA didn't make a Ponzi that made millions bankrupt, or openly hawked wares made in Chinese sweatshops: it just makes boneheaded marketing moves, by canceling games that should've been released, and releasing games that should've been cancelled (or at least fucking beta-tested: we're all looking at you, Battlefield 4!).  


I think "WORST VIDEO GAME PUBLISHER in America" is more relevant to the assorted dickery EA gets itself into, don't you think?

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Sinistha In reply to MaddKossack115 [2014-01-21 18:28:58 +0000 UTC]

I think no offense is a great way of starting a discussion. So here are my points.

1. Don't you think those EA game boxes and CDs were pressed in the same sweatshops in China? The bottom line for any corporation is the bottom line. And all CORPORATIONS have their wares produced by third world nations if it lowers cost.

2. EA was one of the companies who made their own local (ie American) workers work overtime, up to the point of swallowing up their weekends and holidays without paying them any overtime. That's why a class action lawsuit was filled against them by their employees and was settled out of court because if it did go to court, EA would probably be bankrupt right now. (My guess why it didn't go to court is because EA has a massive corporate lawyer division that would have buried the whole thing in paperwork but once it did go to court they would lose and EA would end up paying those lawyers as well, cheaper to settle outside of court me thinks).

3. I have no sympathy for assholes who invest in Ponzi schemes and anything that has to do with money making money. the stockmarket was supposed to be for people who needed money to expand their business, ie so they build more factories and hire more workers to make more products. this whole thing of finance companies, banks and insurance companies being allowed to trade stocks on the stock market is insanity because those companies produce nothing. they should not be allowed to use money to make money because that is what creates a bubble, inflation and at the end of the day, the bubble collapses and everyone suffers except the assholes who started this whole shit. In a perfect world, only the manufacturing industry and companies that provided ACTUAL service should be allowed on the stock market. using money to make money companies should not even be considered. After all, they already have access to other peoples deposits and whatnots to invest in, why let them have access to more money? spoken like a true communist, but fuck it, in some things in life communism makes sense.

4. At any rate, EA is not better or worse than most of these douchebag corporations but its how they treat their local workers that's why they got that title of worst company in America.

5. I'm not taking anyone's side in this argument. I could give less than a fuck what people did with their time, money and investments nor do i support any company that i have no personal stake in. im coming from a side of neutrality and if possible objectivity without biasses or taking sides. 

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MaddKossack115 In reply to Sinistha [2014-01-21 20:29:23 +0000 UTC]

To address your points, I just want to start by pointing out that I still think EA deserves the title of being the Worst Company IN IT'S OWN LINE OF WORK AS A GAME PUBLISHER.  The other companies that I think are more deserving of "Worst Company in America Overall"  either have more disastrous results on the economy when one of their schemes backfires, or gives their employees even worse working conditions than EA's cubical drones.

1. Yeah, I'm sure EA gets it's electronics from overseas nations with low-quality working conditions, but not nearly as much as, say, Wal-Mart gets their T-Shirts and other products.

2. Overworked and underpaid workers are one thing, but the health problems EA employees are getting are more from being overly-stressed and mentally taxed, as opposed to being physically maimed with industrial accidents or asbestos laced workplaces.  Say what you will about EA, but last time I checked, their building codes certainly met OSHA compliance.

3. Yeah, that whole spiel of "stock markets are gambling, and the investors deserve to be screwed over from time to time" still doesn't change the fact that a Ponzi scheme from a purely financial corporation has more disastrous effects for the economy at large than EA releasing overly-buggy launches - compare the spammed, frustrated emails from gamers at a shitty game compared to the thousands of people that have gone bankrupt and even homeless because their financial institution of choice turned out to be a fraud.

4. Again, EA screws over their workers plenty, but not nearly as much as corporations who don't ensure the structural safety of their buildings.  And even then, I'm pretty sure there's at least one or two cube farms outside of EA that force their workers to even more hours with less repayment.

5. Not to get all nit-picky, but there's literally no way anybody can claim to be completely neutral on a subject, simply because the fact all people are wired to be biased one way or another when presented with a topic.  And even IF one can be "neutral" on a subject, that would involve removing all the human factors into that issue, which still wouldn't make an accurate picture of what's really going on.


Keep in mind,  I still agree EA is the "Worst Videogame Publisher" in America, and would probably squeeze into the Top 10 or even Top 5 Worst Companies in America.  But in terms of having the potential to send the American economy into a panic, or giving workers outright life-threatening injuries, there's got to be some more companies out there who overwhelm the douchebaggery of EA.

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Sinistha In reply to MaddKossack115 [2014-01-22 06:50:37 +0000 UTC]

First off, you raise a lot of good points. Kudos to you! I can see why you say GAME PUBLISHER and not COMPANY. I think they deserve that label cuz it becomes a stigma and at least it'll make them do something to change their corporate image. Cuz if they said they're the worst game publisher, the average joe is just gonna think oh they just produce shitty games. On the other hand, a lot of other companies deserve that title too. There should be a category of worst COMPANIES. Then you can throw the whole lot of them in it and they all will get the stigma attached from such a label.

Debating points:

1. I think all companies who exploit the misfortunes of others are all shit. The degree doesn't matter because if they could further exploit to further their corporate gains and keep their costs low, trust me they'll do it.

2. Well, I think in the States at least the working conditions of most workers are relatively good as compared to the rest of the world. Industrial accidents are one thing, but thats more circumstantial than the owners deliberately wanting to harm their employees. No one wants their factory shut down for a day or lawsuits, even if they didn't care about worker welfare. Asbestos... Isn't that banned in the States?

3. Ponzi schemes, investing in financial, banking and other corporations who make money from money are all responsible for the economic meltdowns more than other companies I agree. But its the damn people who keep investing in these firms who allow them to continue. If everyone was more altruistic and not interested in getting rich quick, these companies will all shrivel up and die or at least shrink to a size where they can no longer influence the economy of the world. People are the problem because people have the power to stop perpetuating. But everyones got the "I got mine you better get yours mentality" and that will in the long run at least keep such practices and corporate policies afloat. 

4. Can't disagree with you there.

5. I disagree with this. I am completely neutral when it comes to the Israelis vs the Palestinians. No opinion. No suggestions. Nothing. Absolutely neutral on the subject. I thought I was the same way with the gay civil rights issue, but when I thought about it, if asked to vote, I would allow them to get married simply because its a civil rights issue that harms no one and its not causing me anything but its holding back the rights of a lot of gay people such as inheritance and kids and stuff. But Israel vs Palestine, completely neutral. 

My only issue of EA deserving such a label is so that it creates stigma. And maybe they'll try to better themselves. Maybe the title should be given out every year so different companies may change their policies or the title be given out to a bunch of companies, calling all of them the worst.


ps- I think any company that abuses animals should deserve the worst company label, but that's just my personal opinion.

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einhajar12 In reply to ??? [2013-09-27 18:35:10 +0000 UTC]

im gonna play the living sheet outa thrax 'n' junkyard, thats for sure!

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avenger09 [2013-08-26 08:59:21 +0000 UTC]

Which is your favourite? 


Personally it goes: Dr Thrax, (GLA) Red Arrow, (China) and Jean-Marie Gavel (EU)

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blackzero7 In reply to avenger09 [2013-12-03 12:43:05 +0000 UTC]

I'd say Nitro me favorite

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Sinistha In reply to avenger09 [2013-08-26 10:26:57 +0000 UTC]

Dont really have a fav but im curious to know Nitro's backstory. Was she living in the west and somehow got recruited to the gla cause? 

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MaddKossack115 In reply to Sinistha [2013-10-12 16:58:12 +0000 UTC]

Actually, her bio has her being a war orphan on the border of Russia and Georgia (the country Georgia, ignoramuses!), and taken under the wing of a GLA bomb maker, before going on a rampage against the EU after their special forces team killed her mentor.  So, yeah, I guess your guess is technically confirmed.

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Sinistha In reply to MaddKossack115 [2013-10-14 13:56:13 +0000 UTC]

Ha! I just read her bio! I was close but not really that close.

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nawid2010 In reply to Sinistha [2013-08-30 19:15:00 +0000 UTC]

yes i also would like to know.

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