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OK... I admit it.I'm a vocaloid geek.
Can you believe that I actually doubted the whole phenomenon in the first place?
The inspiration (and much of the imagery) is taken from the (in)famous Vocaloid song "Imitation Black" ( [link] )
Imitation Black
Lyrics: NatsuP.
Composer: NatsuP.
Arrangement: NatsuP.
Guitar&Mix: haku.
This version features the H&A gang.
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youre a doctor?! wow...this just keeps getting worse for you doesnt it?
so if i understood correctly when you were in school you were never taught how to write? or you werent taught for a long period? for better they dont teach cursive anymore. i know first hand how unreadable messy cursive is to read *cant read own handwriting*
O: thats it!? the messiest is kanji tattoos!?!?? D:< oh come on thats unfair! we have so many homonym SOUNDS! not words SOUNDS!
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The world isn't fair, my friend. What may seem perfectly fine for you is actually really quite messy for us. We have a few thousand homonym sounds, yes... but they result in "wrong words" and not "misspelling". (Most folks can't really tell if the words are written wrongly, either... which explains why there are so many of them that ends up people's skins...)
When I was in English-speaking schools, we were no longer taught how to write cursively. When we were in English classes, we were taught to print in big bubbly letters, but no more. I have on good authority that once upon a time there were courses on how to write both in print and cursively. It's sad to see them go.
And yes... I'm a doctor. Makes life fun, doesn't it?
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for us homonyms can end up as wrong words and/or spelling mistakes. i lost a whole question in my technology exam for that. =.=;
when i was in australia we were taught how to write cursive. or at least in melbourne they did. would that have been because i went to a private school?
if you think about it though it is better for them to discontinue teaching cursive. if people write messy now just think how those very people would write in cursive.
"the world isnt fair my friend" why does that remind me of genesis quoting loveless!? DX
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Homonyms mean something different for us... it simply means "wrong word". No such thing as mis-spellings. (You can't really mis-spell anything without an alphabet, right?)
When people were taught how to write (print or cursive), it's a good form of training to prevent them from writing messy in the future. It's like riding a bicycle, if you will. Your body remember a set of movements without you registering how to do it - so that you will never forget how to ride a bicycle or how to swim. The same goes for writing, as well. I don't think it's good that the younger generation are missing out on these lessons, I think it's a shame! (It -is- good to know that maybe private schools still have them. I have never studied in a private school. I guess you're a better source of information than I am?)
That's because that Genesis has a rather annoying tendency to pull out quotes at the most inopportune time... all the time... Thanks to him, the act of quoting makes folks think of him...
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you cant mis-spell in chinese. xD i never really thought about that...ditto cursive...makes sense...and no. im not a better source of info. i just happened to go to that specific school that taught it. i doubt it was the only one but it was no doubt of the few left.
damn you genesis...>.<;
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In order to "mis-spell", you have to have a spelling. In order to spell, you need an alphabet. So, in a language with no alphabet... you can't mis-spell at all!
I've heard a lot of people say that when people used to write everything, their handwriting and spelling were much better. Now there's typing and spell-check, people simply don't use that part of their brain anymore. So I still believe that it's a good idea to teach people how to write (yes, both in print and in cursive). Maybe some private schools still do that (which would be wonderful news), but even those would be rare. Over all... I think we're looking into a new generation of people who knows how to type better than how to write. "Writer's cramp" will probably be a real disease in the future!
I second that. Damn you, Genesis...
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i understood the no "mis-spell" thing i had just never thought about it. its kind of weird...
youre absolutely right! now that i think about it my greek writing has improved greatly ever since i moved to greece. writers crapm huh? i can actually see that happening...
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Hein, Chinese chractrers -are- kinda weird. I think that's our claim to fame. (I also think that's why people think Chinese is the hardest language to learn - and no, it most certainly isn't.) I might add, however, that it is -somewhat- possible to mis-spell in Japanese and Korean. Both of them have a phonetic alphabet which gives them the chance to have mis-spellings. But in their case, the moment they mis-spell, the sound of the word completely changes. That may result in "wrong word" instead of a "mis-spell."
It's the good old "Sink or swim" principle. My Taiwanese wasn't the greatest. Heck, I'd say it's on par with my French - it's really that bad. But when I worked in Taiwan for 2 months... it picked up like crazy. I think the environment makes a huge difference on how you learn a lanaguage. And that goes for both speaking and writing!
Oh, yes... "writers' cramp." Back in the 90's, there was the "Nintendo thumb", then in the 2000's, there was the "Blackberry thumb". Who are we to say that we won't see a "Writers' cramp" in the future?
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whats nintendo thumb? is that were people played it so much that their fingerprint literally was rubbed away by the controller? xD ive heard about that! i have never even heard of blackberry thumb...*googles*
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A "Nintendo Thumb" is a kind of repetitive-use injury to the thumb. It makes moving the thumb painful.
It was called a "Nintendo thumb" because people first had them when people played a lot of video games... which required them to use a lot of their thumbs. The official name for this condition is actually called "de Quervain's syndrome" and is classified in the same category as "tennis elbow" and "golfers' elbow". "Blackberry thumb" is actually the "upgraded version" of a "Nintendo thumb". The root cause is all the same.
"Writers' cramp"... will hopefully involve a different set of muscles...
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haha well i was almost close
but there have actually been cases of the fingerprint rubbing off, i didnt just make it up...
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Oh, fingerprints can be rubbed off, yes. But they grow back all the same. I have heard of criminals who tried to get rid of their fingerprints by rubbing them off, using acid, using strong alkali... many, many ways. Most of the time, these ways result in a lot of pain and no effect at all. Even if the visible fingerprint is rubbed off, the small oil glands in the tip of the finger will still leave a print in the same shape of your original fingerprint.
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oh wow...they grow back...that would make sense. with so many video games that i play i would have figured that i wouldnt have anything left. xD
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Of course they grow back!
I still remember there was this once when I tried to cross the border to the United States. They wanted to take my finger print, but for some unknown reason, my prints are just not showing up when they scanned it. They rubbed my fingers with this lotion made of corn stalks to make the prints show up. It took them about 3 tries... but they got it anyway.
So... Yes, not only do they grow back, but people can use stuff to make them appear, too...
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hahaha they probably thought you were a criminal or something! 3 times...jeez...
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Well... the story went like this... we were going to this trail over at Niagara Falls. But the highways were under construction and the signs were all covered up. We took a wrong turn and turned up at the border's check point...
... so yes, fingerprints were needed.
... and gosh-darn it, they just couldn't get mine...
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Yuoh! It's been a while...and I see your
abilities to draw from music hasn't faltered...
Looks great!
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Hey, you're right! It -has- been a long while.
How have you been?
Oh... this one? Glad you liked it!
(Hein... I can't say I haven't faltered. Here I was thinking that I've been more than rusty!)
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This very fine Deviation is featured in my Journal of this week [link] !!!
Hope you like it, greetz lenZ
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Thanks a million for all your support.
I don't just like it, I love it!
I don't know how to thank you for all your support over this time. So, the least I can do is to thank you again.
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you're very welcome !!!!!!!!
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Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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this is...realy good...like...damn, i wish i wasnt so tired so i could give this the praze it deserves....
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Oh, that's all right.
Sleep is more important than giving praises.
Believe me, it's still going to be here when you wake up next...
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hmm...well Im a bit more awake now
you know...I feel odd saying that this is an impovment and some of your uther works...I hope you dont take offence to that....But realy it is, its very very well done, the hair is quite good, though it dose seem to be lacking in some detail...but thats okay, it seems to fit with the style of this picture and I like that....always nice to express something in just a few lines you know?
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A bit more awake is always nice, no?
And I think you've made an interesting observation here.
You see... this was an experiment; a sort of experiment that I call "re-creation" experiments. They are a deliberate re-creation of another artist's style with my own concepts and ideas. Basically, it's a fan-art made to look like the original... only without using pre-existing chracters.
So, basically what you are telling me is that you like the original artist's style for its cleanliness and its ability to convey ideas with fewer lines and less clutter. That's important to know. (And if you are curious about what the "original" looks like, just click the link that's attached in the "Artist's comment" section.) Would I take offense to that sort of observation? No, of course not. That's not the point of this sort of experiment, either. The point here is... hey, I'm trying to learn from the masters out there.
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indeed.
ah okay, very interesting.
well your doing a very good job i must say ^^
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I guess some people might take offense in knowing that someone likes their "Copied" work more than their "original" work. But I guess since this is a sort of a fan art (of the style, not of the characters) and people like fan arts... it's not bad at all.
I think I did Ok here. But there's no much to go on from here, really.
Either way, I'll take what you're saying here to mind. Sometimes, less can be more.
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did you take offence to that? Im sorry. I was just trying to be honest.
indeed
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Haven't we been talking about how we aren't "people"?
I said "some people might take offense" didn't I?
Besides, I like the honesty. Even if you tell me I'm crap, I'd probably applaud.
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well, yes your right XD
okay
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I believe in sticking with what I've said. So when I say I'm not quite "people", I mean it.
I believe I'm no artist; at the very most, I'm just a hack. So... a little honesty from friends mean a whole lot... because it actually sounds like someone agrees with me.
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thats a very good quality
I don't think you're a hack, I beleive in what Bob Ross said about everyone being able to be an artist if they try at it.
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Hey, I try, right?
Gotta practice what I preach here. That's taking responsibility. (Which, as it happens, is also something else I preach. I guess I'm running myself into a corner here.)
Oh... but I -am- a hack. There's a difference between an artist and a hack. And while Bob Ross has a wonderful idea ("that everyone can be an artist"), I think in a slightly different way. I think an artist takes a little bit of vision - to see what others don't see. The execution is something else... just a technical detail. A person can be great with the techniques and the little details but when the whole concept is lacking... there's no art. Just prettiness. Ross did a wonderful thing: he brought the technique to everybody so that it's not just something that a few people have. Everyone can create something pretty, and they can be pretty damned good at it. That was Ross's vision and I applaud him for it. But does that make someone an artist? That's another story.
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indeed (well...Id like to think of it as a very neat very good circle)
I wouldn't use the word 'hack' but I do see what your saying. I was actually just talking about that today with anouther student in my drawing class...are teachers are far from what you would call 'artistsic' prettiness indeed.
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(A circle is a circle. A good circle is still a circle.)
I'm sorry... but I don't quite get what you are trying to say with "are teachers are far from what you would call 'artistic' prettiness indeed". Was there a typo somewhere or am I just missing the mark?
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oh...I'm sorry, what I ment by that was, you are right, and my teachers are good exampls of the 'hacks' your talking about, they arn't artists...just people who know how to paint and draw, witch makes it hard for me to get good feed back from them about my art.
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There are hacks and there are hacks.
And there are teachers who are forced to be hacks; of course, there would be hacks who were forced to become teachers.
Here's the disclaimer, but I will be talking from experience. Art critique is not like creating art. It's the difference between a criminologist and a criminal. And that being said, a lot of teachers (who may or may not be hacks) just aren't trained to give critiques. They sure don't teach that in teacher's college, I'll tell you that. And considering the low respect art and music teachers are getting now-days, a lot of these "art teachers" are basically forced into the profession because they've got nothing else to do.
Good feedback is hard to get; that's the long and short of it. So, if you can find a person who can do that for you, don't forget to keep that person chained, shackled and weighed so he or she won't leave you. Not everyone should be so lucky to have a good critic.
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true.
hmm, yeah I gess so, but I hate when they sometimes go so far as to tell me my art is bad,then they wont tell me why they think that, I don't care if they don't like it...but I would like to know why.
hmm, well you're a very good critic...though I'm not going to chain you to anything XD
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Hein... can't do anything to help you with that, I am afraid.
My art teachers used to try really hard to flunk me in art classes. I used to get C- across the board for art classes.
... and look where I ended up.
Believe me, there are better folks than me out there. If you've had the chance to meet up with one of them, chain that person down. You need someone who can give you something more serious when it comes to art (not crazy psychoanalysis. That can only go so far.)
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damn....Iv always gotten As in my art classes.
But I like your crazy psychoanalysis of my art XD
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Boy... and you're complaining about hack art teachers?!
Hein... you want to be serious about pursuing an art career, you need someone who can critically help you to improve with it. The psychoanalysis do something slightly different. It tells me about you so I can tell you about you. Something that's not... always helpful when you want to sell your art to a public.
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why yes, yes I am. I know that sounds a bit bad...but grades don't matter to me if you can't tell me why I got them...at least in Art.
hmm, yeah, but still...its beter then what I get from uther people. Though I know what you're saying and I would like someone who could give me a more...I don't know the word that would go here...I mean I dont just want to say 'beter'
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Oh, boy...
On one hand, I fully agree that a good grade without a godd reason doesn't mean much. But on paper, it's still a good grade. Can you imagine getting barely-passing grade with no good reason?
And people wonder how and why I got into this critic business...
The word you are looking for here is "precise" and "constructive". And both of them would constitute as "better" critique. Someone out there can tell you "here, the composition here can be improved by..." or "the anatomy here is out of alignment because..." (I could do some of that, but it's certainly not a staple from me). That's why I want to refer you to keep searching for someone out there.
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I get what you're saying...though I've never been too mutch of a 'looks good on paper' kind of guy.
yeah, that's it. Though, on some pictures I would like some psychoanalysis. I also hope you don't mind if I ever just show you a picture just to see what you think of it.
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Hein... sometimes, it's still kinda important to look good on paper. Especially in certain circles where people look at your papers before they look at you...
Hein... I told you, once in a while I don't mind. It exercises the part of my brain that I don't always get to use during my work day. You just keep on trying. When I can't, I'll tell you I can't.
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Yeah I know...I keep telling myself about that and my Mom keeps reminding me to "just play the game and get the graid"...but I just hate the feel of that so mutch...I know what you're saying though.
Okay, well hey, if you can't you can't, its all good ^^
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Yeah... sometimes, this game is really cruel. My brother's a brilliant, hard-working guy (I think he's better than me on both accounts). But since he wasn't able to play this game quite as well, he ended up looking like a worse guy on paper. Couldn't get into a North Amrican medical school that way and had to go to the Caribbeans. So that's experience speaking... looking good on paper has its role in life.
Yeah. I try.
But things might really get sticky when I become a resident come July. So... please accept my little bit of pre-warning?
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Yeah...I just, I can't seem to get the idea to have any real feeling behind it, there's no insperation....just a dead thought.
oh of course, like I said, it's all good ^^
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It is a pretty dead thought, yes. "But when Hell is full, the dead will walk the earth."
And just like what the humans had to do in the movie where this quote came from, we've got nothing better to do but to accept this fact and survive with it. Survival won't be easy, no... but it's a necessity at times. Like what I said a few days ago, in a world where they look at your papers before they look at you, there's no much you can do.
... agreed, agreed. Thank you in advance.
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