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Apparently there is this notion that critiques have to say something nice about the work in order to be critiques and not something utterly rude. I have no idea on what planet they reside but critiques do not have to be nice to be critiques.A critique is a critical evaluation of a work. And to be critical in the sense of the word that is being used means to point out flaws and errors. So essentially to give a critique is the point out the flaws and errors of the work at hand. I fail to see anywhere in that where "leave ass kissing remarks to make the artist feel better" is written.
Would having compliments added to the critique be nice? Yes. Is it necessary? No. So if you get a critique that only points out the faults of your piece the person isn't being rude nor are they trolling. They are merely critiquing. Please stop getting your knickers in a twist.
: Critiques don't have to be nice, so STFU.
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boraeili In reply to ??? [2015-05-30 00:58:01 +0000 UTC]
if you cant take a critique youre not a real artist
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K-O-T-E In reply to boraeili [2015-05-30 03:12:39 +0000 UTC]
Okay. I don't wanna be one anyway, I do it for fun. Consider me a hobbyist.
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NyuIa [2015-04-07 11:02:04 +0000 UTC]
once some guy said on one of my art pieces: "The anatomy and face are terrible on this one."Β
BRUH, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO TELL ME WHAT I CAN IMPROVE. not just give my anatomy and face number ratings out of ten.Β
mean critiques? fine! as long as you actually tell me how to improve
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WaltzThroughTheStars [2014-11-08 06:11:23 +0000 UTC]
I was always taught that critiques must be constructive, having a balance between positive and negative.Β
No, I do not mean add "ass kissing" to it. Just point out something positive instead of being completely negative.Β
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ichigo-milkshakey [2014-06-05 16:28:49 +0000 UTC]
"lol wtf the hands are literal shit pls learn 2 draw thx"
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Echowolf97 [2013-12-29 05:08:13 +0000 UTC]
Its nice to give a nice critique though so why not
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Jazzlednightmare16 [2013-06-17 06:25:24 +0000 UTC]
I agree. But they need to be constructive otherwise, the artists will never learn. If they get butthurt over constructive criticism then it's their problem.
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Keyrel6202 [2013-02-01 04:19:06 +0000 UTC]
True. A good balance needs to be maintained, otherwise the critic isn't doing their job correctly, and then the artist/writer won't learn from it.
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Ronin201 [2012-11-16 17:26:48 +0000 UTC]
the only thing I'm gonna say is they don't have to be nice, but if someone critiques someone they should at least be civilized, whether the critique they give is good or bad, or else the person they're giving the critique to has every right to be pissed
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Jazzlednightmare16 In reply to Ronin201 [2013-06-17 06:25:44 +0000 UTC]
Took the words from my own mouth.
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Deus-Lux [2012-11-13 14:19:01 +0000 UTC]
Critiques of art, of any form, though have to as least give some ideas on how to improve. They have to be a least useful. You should point that out too, just to cover yourself. Otherwise it falls into opinion only, which can be ignored. I agree though.
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LeonCreed [2012-05-23 10:49:30 +0000 UTC]
Worse thing is when they block you for leaving a critique, thinking it's a personal attack.
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TracyWong [2011-09-16 08:02:30 +0000 UTC]
Actually, a critique is a "detailed analysis and assessment of something". It does not mean "point out flaws and errors". If you want to give a detailed analysis and assessment you must asses the good parts of the art as well as the bad parts.
If you only give a list of what is wrong with the work and never mention the good parts that's the fastest way to make someone "shut off" and stop hearing what you're saying. So sure, you can just give them a list of everything that is wrong with the work, but chances are the artist isn't going to listen to you and write you off as a troll. Then you've just wasted YOUR TIME as well as THEIR TIME, because critiquing is supposed to be used to help the artist IMPROVE. You want the artist to take what you have to say to heart and actually hear what you're trying to tell them - Use the time honored "critique sandwich". Good, Bad, Good.
The good being the bread and the "bad" being the meet of the sandwich (the stuff the artist really needs to work on to improve). With the Critique Sandwich you start off by pointing out one or two things you think the artist did well on - even if you can only find that you liked a certain color they used - whatever it is, be honest but be sure to find at least two things positive to say about the work. So mention the positive thing first to let them know you appreciate their effort, then add the "bad" or the stuff they need to work on, and close on a positive note by mentioning another good thing about the work. I actually try to make the good things I point out, outnumber the bad. But that's just me. I know others don't care to take the time to point out the good with the bad, but it seems to work well for me.
Besides, the point is to get the artist to listen to what you're saying, and like I said, most people aren't going to take what someone says to heart if all they are doing is listing everything that is wrong with their art. heheh
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Sabhira In reply to TracyWong [2012-06-09 18:32:03 +0000 UTC]
But what if there aren't any good parts?
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Deus-Lux In reply to Sabhira [2012-11-13 14:20:08 +0000 UTC]
Give them ideas on how to improve and look at it in a less personal way.
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Crown-Jewels In reply to TracyWong [2012-02-29 03:55:29 +0000 UTC]
Can't figure out how to say how much I liked this. I'd gladly welcome a critique from you any day. *thumbs up.* 030
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TracyWong In reply to Crown-Jewels [2012-03-26 03:04:30 +0000 UTC]
Awww Thanks, hun. That's so sweet of you to say!
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PowerRuffGirl [2011-07-15 04:32:22 +0000 UTC]
I guess. But just pointing out flaws doesn't make it helpful (unless the person gives tips/advice on how to improve). It just points out the obvious.
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blueheron93 [2011-07-01 19:55:49 +0000 UTC]
Constructive criticism does not have to be positive. Sure, you shouldn't be completely rude in a critique, but you are under no obligation to find something positive to say about the piece. You could be 100% negative and not say one nice thing about the piece and it could still be constructive. You can insult a piece up one end and down the other and it will still be critique.
Me, I like it when someone critiques my work brutally. I don't even care if they have tact. They can tell me my work is fucking stupid, and I will love it as long as they tell me why it's stupid and how I can make it less stupid.
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Leukitanea [2011-03-27 11:17:42 +0000 UTC]
Well, from a certain point of view, they are nice: they point out the things we should improove, etc... But some of them are just rude XD
Nice stamp... I'll fave it
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obliviousrights In reply to StygianAeon [2011-01-02 21:56:17 +0000 UTC]
And I guess those idiots forget that it's a ART site, not just post your shit and get popular.XD
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StygianAeon In reply to obliviousrights [2011-01-02 21:58:46 +0000 UTC]
They do. They also don't realize that it doesn't have to sing their praises in order to be a critique. Silly tartlets.
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obliviousrights In reply to StygianAeon [2011-01-02 22:00:27 +0000 UTC]
Of course!
They just do this little stereotype rant saying how "Oh well, your critique..." And I go "What the fuck, I critique like that! BUTTHURT!"
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StygianAeon In reply to obliviousrights [2011-01-02 22:03:29 +0000 UTC]
Massive butthurt.
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obliviousrights In reply to StygianAeon [2011-01-02 22:05:25 +0000 UTC]
It's ridiculous..
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Darkness-escape [2010-12-26 19:27:16 +0000 UTC]
Telling someone they made flaws and errors is a critique but insults about them and their art is not.A critique is not saying something nice because thats a compliment not a critique and criticizing someone is also not a critique or starting drama.Sometimes a compliment is a compliment when its art in the beholders eye. Telling someone the right way to throw a curve ball and telling somone you suck at throwing a curve ball is not the same thing.Some people cant critique and if they cant draw then I strongly recommend they dont.You can critique a photographer but if you take pictures of your penis with a iphone ...then I STRONGLY recommend you dont.
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StygianAeon In reply to Darkness-escape [2011-01-02 21:43:14 +0000 UTC]
I'm sorry but it doesn't matter if you can't draw when it comes to critiquing drawn works. You don't have to be a chef to tell that there is something wrong with the food they made and how it can be improved.
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Darkness-escape In reply to StygianAeon [2011-01-02 22:31:12 +0000 UTC]
If people know what they are talking about.Maybe some of the stuff I said wasent all right. A photographer can critique a drawing because when you see a drawing of a woman ,he knows that a woman has curves. I know it dosent have to be someone who can draw but if you critique someone,you have to be knowledgeable.You have to know the subject matter. You can tell the difference when someone is critiquing or is making fun of someone. Im not saying you cant make fun of someone but dont call it a critique.
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Darkness-escape In reply to Darkness-escape [2011-03-08 08:26:18 +0000 UTC]
If people know what they are talking about, maybe some of the stuff I said wasnβt all right. A photographer can critique a drawing because when you see a drawing of a woman, he knows that a woman has curves. I know it doesnβt have to be someone who can draw but if you critique someone, you have to be knowledgeable. You have to know the subject matter. You can tell the difference when someone is critiquing or is making fun of someone. Iβm not saying you canβt make fun of someone but donβt call it a critique.
Sorry for the bad English
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StygianAeon In reply to Darkness-escape [2011-01-02 23:12:56 +0000 UTC]
Is English your first language?
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StygianAeon In reply to Darkness-escape [2011-01-02 23:47:06 +0000 UTC]
At your lack of English skills? No, just disappointed that you feel the need to rape a language with your inability to use it.
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StygianAeon In reply to Darkness-escape [2011-01-02 23:53:43 +0000 UTC]
My butthurt? I don't have a butthurt.
Protip: If you're going to attempt to be witty at least make sure you spell it right.
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StygianAeon In reply to Darkness-escape [2011-01-03 00:11:05 +0000 UTC]
Not my fault you can't troll right, faggot.
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Darkness-escape In reply to StygianAeon [2011-01-03 00:17:42 +0000 UTC]
I wasent trolling you but I am sorry that I made you mad with my opinion
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StygianAeon In reply to Darkness-escape [2011-01-03 01:17:40 +0000 UTC]
You didn't make me mad.
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Darkness-escape In reply to StygianAeon [2011-01-03 03:06:35 +0000 UTC]
Then why are you the only one throwing back insults
Your not taking a critique like a man hypocrite. Im done with this
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StygianAeon In reply to Darkness-escape [2011-01-05 05:46:06 +0000 UTC]
What critique? All I got out of you was poorly written gibberish.
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Darkness-escape In reply to StygianAeon [2011-01-05 08:56:18 +0000 UTC]
Why are you still replying to this? I forgot about this three days ago.
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