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Here's an updated version of my old SSB5 roster. I have potential 26 newcomers, everyone from Smash 4 returns and all previously cut fighters are also back. This brings the total to 91 fighters (counting Miis). It is unlikely that we would get this, but these are who I would like to see for Smash 5.There are also a few characters I didn't include that I'd also be okay with. These are: King Boo, Mona, Cranky Kong, Impa, Linkle, Ninten, Micaiah, Azura, Alph as his own character, Sukapon, Shovel Knight, Lloyd Irving, Banjo-Kazzoie.
I should also note that in this roster, Pichu is a semiclone a la Luigi, Ganondorf, Falco, Roy, and Lucas and that Young Link would have a Majora's Mask/Hyrule Warriors moveset. And if you're wondering about Pokemon Trainer Red, I think he could either work as a separate character or he could simply be in the background when you are playing as Charizard. One idea I have is that some of the Pokemon will actually have a Trainer with them in the background. It's just an ascetic change better fit the character. Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Pichu in Melee, Charizard, and Greninja all come out of Pokeballs as their entrance animation, implying they are trained Pokemon as opposed to a wild one.
Here's my reasoning for each newcomer:
Waluigi: Him, Daisy, and Toad are pretty much the last characters of the Mario spin-off crew who's not in Smash as a fighter yet. Waluigi, despite his origins, has a lot of potential to be a very wacky and unique fighter. He is also the perfect character to represent the Mario Sports games and could have a moveset based on what he does in them.
Captain Toad: While regular Toad is Peach's neutral b, this Toad can very well be a capable fighter. He even got his own game. Unsure of a moveset for him at the moment though. I just think that Toad, being a very iconic character of Mario and Nintendo, should have a place as a fighter. He could also have Toadette as an alt character costume.
Paper Mario: Being the most popular character people want to represent the Mario RPG games, I certainly see the appeal for him despite being a third Mario. Having five games for moves to be pulled from, he's got so many choices. He's got hammers, jump attacks, partners, star powers, pixels, dimension-switching, stickers, and card attacks.
Ashley: I don't know much about WarioWare, much less it's wacky cast of characters. Almost anyone could work. Mona and Jimmy T. are also popular choices for a second Wario character. I went with Ashley since she's also really popular and I just like her more than most of the other choices. She also has more of a potential moveset as she is a witch so she could use magic to attack.
King K. Rool: We need more villians. We need more heavyweights. We need more Donkey Kong characters. You've heard this song and dance before.
Dixie Kong: See K. Rool but remove the second sentence and change villians to females.
Lana: Other than Cia and maybe Linkle, Lana is the best choice for a Hyrule Warriors rep. She's got magic, a spear, and a summoning portal to use and a lot of cool and flashy moves to take from. She's also got a lot of material for her alt colors.
Excitebiker: The retro character I picked. Can't think up a good moveset for him, but when we got characters like Sheik and Captain Falcon, whose moves are almost completely made up, that isn't much an excuse.
Ridley: Whether you think he's too big or not, I just think he'd be a really fun character to play as. Project M had a really good Ridley mod with a good moveset and a reasonable size. Metroid really needs more love in Smash.
Dark Samus: The next best thing we can get as a third Metroid character if Ridley can't be it. She won't be a clone either. She's got several unique attacks from her boss fights in Metroid Prime 3 that could work for a moveset. At worst, she'd be a Samus semi-clone.
Viridi: A fourth Kid Icarus character may seem much, but I think she'd be a great addition. Being the goddess of nature, she'd have of moveset of mainly attacking with things like plants, rocks, water, and her own minions. Her Final Smash would defiantly be dropping a Reset Bomb on the stage.
Anna: She's one of the few recurring characters in the Fire Emblem series. In most of the games, she's just a simple merchant, but in Awakening and Fates, she's playable and appearently the RNG goddess. This may be a bit bias since she was one of my best units in both Awakening and Fates, I found her antics for money funny, and she's my Revelations waifu. As for a moveset, you've got her as a swordfighter in Awakening, an archer in Fates, and an axe user in Heroes. A Smash Bros Anna could a combination of all three. Maybe include the lance wielding Apotheosis Anna in too so Anna could use the three main weapon types of the Fire Emblem series.
Samurai Goroh: My choice for a second F-Zero character. He just seems more interesting than Black Shadow does. Since Captain Falcon's moves were completely made up, so can Goroh's. I can just imagine him unleashing a powerful katana swipe while shouting "Stingray Slash!"
Takamaru: Another retro character. I really don't know much about him. He did appear in a Dynasty Warriors game so moves could be taken from there.
Bandanna Dee: Out of all the possible characters for a fourth Kirby rep, Bandanna Dee is probably the most realistic. He's appeared in multiple games (sorry Fluff) ever since he appeared as Dedede's second in command in Revenge of the King in Kirby Super Star Ultra and he's not very spoilerish (sorry Galacta Knight, Magolor, Marx). Plus, he does have a full moveset from Return to Dream Land.
Krystal: I also known next to nothing about Star Fox. All I know about Krystal is that she was in Adventures, Assault, and Command, and has some mystic staff, which could be used for her moveset.
Decidueye: I picked Rowlett's final evolution as the Gen 7 Pokemon as Rowlett seems to be the most popular of the three (even though Popplio and in turn, Primarina is my personal favorite of the three), it's design is really cool, and because it's a fully evolved grass starter (sorry Sceptile), though Incineroar, Mimikyu, Tapu Koko would also work really well. It also seams that Ash does have a Rowlett in the Sun and Moon anime. Let's all hope the writers will actually evolve it. It could easily have it's signature Z-Move Sinister Arrow Raid as it's Final Smash. Decidueye is also in Pokken Tournament DX, so there's more moves to take from.
Rex and Pyra: Xenoblade Chronicles 2 looks amazing and if we did get another Xenoblade character, I think it should be someone from here over X. I went with Rex as he is the main character and included Pyra as she's like the Monado of Xenoblade 2. From my understanding, Pyra is the personified form the blade of the same name. She appears following Rex and fights with him if she's equipped. They could work like a Duck Hunt where they fight together but make up the same fighter or be like the Ice Climbers or Rosalina and Luma where you control two characters at the same time.
Isaac: Never played Golden Sun. All I know is that he's got earth magic and is very popular as an addition to Smash.
Chibi-Robo: One of the wildcard characters I picked. Never played the games, though I think Chibi-Robo does do some fighting in Zip Lash.
Chorus Kids: Remember the Gamatsu leak back when Smash 4 was being developed? Everyone on that leak made in except for Chrom (because Robin was more original) and these guys, possibly for the same reason the Ice Climbers were cut. Either way, a Rhythm Heaven character could work in Smash. Marshal or Karate Joe could also work. I'm just going with the Chorus Kids because of the Gamatsu leak.
Inkling: These squid kids are a shoe-in due to the success that is Splatoon. I love the first game and really love the sequel on the Switch. I already made a moveset for them as well.
Spring Man: After seeing ARMS for the first time during the first Switch presentation, my first thought was "I wonder how these guys could work in Smash?" Seeing that ARMS is, from what I heard, very popular and I like to think of ARMS as what Splatoon was for the Wii U: a new Nintendo IP that people instantly loved.
Rayman: ArtsyOmni got me interested in what Rayman in Smash would be like. Best fake leak I'll seen. I've never played Rayman, but I'm sure Ubisoft wouldn't mind since Rayman's already in Smash... as a trophy.
Shantae: If any indie character got in, Shantae would be my vote. I've played Pirate's Curse before and loved it and I do want to try Half-Genie Hero at some point. Even WayForward wanted her in. Maybe next time.
Shovel Knight: Everyone's fighting over if it should be Shantae or Shovel Knight should be the first indie character in Smash. I say why not both? I see the appeal for both and played both and enjoyed them.
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So, what do you think? Who would you want? Who should I have included or not have included? Feel free to tell me in the comments. Also I would also like to see and critique other people's rosters so link me to your own Smash rosters.
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Comments: 19
ChiakiYoshikumi [2018-08-08 16:25:36 +0000 UTC]
#VampireSlayer
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5X8qD…
[Oh and one more thing...]
#KingofKremlings
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5X8qD…
AHHHH!!! BOTH WRONG!
(Shovel is eliminated)
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SuperMario643DS In reply to ChiakiYoshikumi [2018-08-21 09:45:59 +0000 UTC]
I posted an updated roster prediction so you can continue your hashtag stuff there if you'd like.
www.deviantart.com/supermario6…
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ChiakiYoshikumi In reply to SuperMario643DS [2018-08-21 11:38:20 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! Hopefully we'll get his password right!
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Rexarkingdino [2018-07-29 03:55:23 +0000 UTC]
The new Pokemon deal seems kinda odd now, given that Ash's Litten is the one evolving, and that Kukui's main Pokemon is Incineroar, and that Incineroar's in the 20th movie as the rival's main one too..
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SuperMario643DS In reply to Rexarkingdino [2018-07-30 20:55:57 +0000 UTC]
I did make this a while ago before all that. I haven't gotten around to updating it either, hence why all veterans have their Smash 4 renders and I have Waluigi instead of Daisy.
As for Decidueye, it's really just I placeholder spot for a Sun and Moon Pokemon. I put Decidueye since that was the one I've seen the most support for. Incineroar would also work very well in Smash since it is suppose to be a heel wrestler. A few other Gen 7 Pokemon I think are also likely are Mimikyu as it's really popular, Dusk Lycanroc since it's Ash's Alola ace (or it was from when I last saw the Sun and Moon anime), and Zeraora since it's going to be in the next movie.
Anyway, I do think we will get a new Pokemon in Ultimate, and the one I have on my roster is just one of the few I would want and could realistically see in Smash.
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ChiakiYoshikumi [2018-06-13 18:03:32 +0000 UTC]
#TooBig
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5X8qD…
Awwhh! Wrong Password again! (It's a Metroid character)
I also tried #Stayfresh (Splatoon) before, it was wrong too.
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SuperMario643DS In reply to ChiakiYoshikumi [2018-06-17 14:16:46 +0000 UTC]
Don't you mean #NotTooBig since Ridley actually made it.
Also RIP the dream for Waluigi and Krystal since they're assist trophies.
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ChiakiYoshikumi In reply to SuperMario643DS [2018-06-17 18:47:10 +0000 UTC]
Besides that, I don't care about any of them. There's only one character I wanted. It's not #waaaaahh , #foxylady , #knockknockitsknuckles or #blastoff either. (all assist trophies, the last eliminated password hashtag supposed to be Bomberman.)
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ChiakiYoshikumi [2018-03-23 16:24:19 +0000 UTC]
Inkliing's in...
But I'm optimistic for Rayman!
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Witherbrine98 [2016-12-01 00:26:10 +0000 UTC]
If Decidueye made it into the next Smash Bros, I just wanna say: am I the only one thinking that Sinister Arrow Raid will be a Final Smash akin to the Dragoon but with explosive ghost arrows?
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Cartoonsrocks123 [2016-11-25 01:33:20 +0000 UTC]
i will agree on this roster
dlc are flippy (htf), goemon, chun-li, sly cooper, rabbid, toon zelda, shovel knight
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Rot8erConeX [2016-09-17 05:00:03 +0000 UTC]
Of the people on here, I honestly do not see Young Link returning since Toon Link basically is him. In my own roster I have a three-way transformation character that is Young Link from Majora's Mask, but YL as he was in Melee is gone for good.
Snake is also very likely to never return, he was a one-off character that was added because Sakurai owed a favor to a friend. From what I hear, the two aren't even friends anymore, and Snake's series has shied away from Nintendo as of late (then again, that latter point didn't stop Cloud from getting in!)
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SuperMario643DS In reply to Rot8erConeX [2016-09-18 00:51:32 +0000 UTC]
In this roster, Young Link, if he was able to come back despite how unlikely it is, would be how he is like in Hyrule Warriors rather than a clone/semiclone like Toon Link. His moveset would be more Majora's Mask and Hyrule Warriors then how he was in Melee. I really don't care too much if he comes back or not. I only put him in here because I like the idea of him coming back as an original character. I probably should have said that in the description. If he comes back, cool. If not, fine by me.
As for Snake, like you said, it didn't stop Cloud from getting in. It would be awesome if Snake came back though. A lot of people want him back. I never liked or hated Snake, but again, I just think it would be cool if he came back regardless of the possibility.
Anyway, thanks for stating what you think. Any feedback as long as it's not pointless hate is good. By the way, where is the roster you made that you mentioned? It's not on your profile unless I'm dumb and didn't see.
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Rot8erConeX In reply to SuperMario643DS [2016-09-18 01:24:51 +0000 UTC]
I don't know if I ever posted it. I know I deleted a lot of Smash fan related things because I'd created movesets for characters that ended up actually making it into Smash 4. For example, Bowser Jr., I had a moveset made for him that was essentially a hybrid of Bowser and Squirtle. We got the clown car moveset which was ten times better.
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MatoiFalconWing [2016-09-16 00:42:15 +0000 UTC]
I could see Robinroot getting its own unique Z-move if not it's definitely Bloom Doom plus I see it coming to the future official roster.The most unlikely imo are Snake, Ridley, Prof. Layton, Squirtle, Ivysaur, Rayman, Zoroark, Dark Samus, Gardevoir, Young Link, Anna, Lana, Krystal, Pichu, Goroh, K Rool, Chibi Robo and probably Rayman. Not insulting your picks but giving my thoughts thats all.
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SuperMario643DS In reply to MatoiFalconWing [2016-09-16 02:43:18 +0000 UTC]
No problem. I want people's opinions on this. Sure a lot of these guys are unlikely, but not impossible. Sakurai has thrown wild cards into Smash before (Captain Falcon, Ness, Roy, Mr. Game and Watch, Lucas, R.O.B., Wii Fit Trainer, Shulk, Cloud and Corrin just to name some). Also, there are 91 characters on here. Obviously we won't get this many characters. I would be happy if any of these characters came in/came back despite how likely they may or may not be.
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Rot8erConeX In reply to SuperMario643DS [2016-09-17 05:04:52 +0000 UTC]
Captain Falcon isn't actually as much of a random inclusion as you would think. He's in the game because his was the first move set was the first one coded in, back when the game was still Dragon King: the Fighting Game. When they decided mid-development to make this game a cross-over fighter, Captain Falcon was the person with a body type most similar to the Dragon King, so they tweaked a few things - mostly changing the dragons made of fire into birds of prey - and slapped the move set onto Captain Falcon's model.
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