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People often get the sense of being ignored in the art-scene, especially here online. We all try so hard to get our foot in the door, it's like trying to stuff yourself in an overfull bus like a sardine in a can.
Sometimes you just want to socialize with other artists you admire and you seem to be talking into a brick wall or perhaps you've send your portfolio to a company over a dozen times and still don't even seem to get the smallest response or feedback. I will try and tell you WHY you get ignored and HOW you can get noticed instead.

I will go through the following cases of being ignored:
Your comment.
Your art.
Your Portfolio.


Do know, that even though being ignored feels very personal it's hardly ever personal at all! 



Your comment(s) gets ignored.It happens ever so often. You notice an artwork or a discussion and you weigh in with your opinion or admiration, perhaps even some feedback? There is a whole list of reasons why you can get ignored in such cases. 
- Is your comment simply reconfirming what someone else already said? Either just post: I agree with "name" or don't comment at all, unless you got something new to add.
- Is your comment shorter than 4 words? When someone gets dozens of comments, they often have to pick which ones to reply to and which ones not to. The most insightful ones will be the ones that get a reply.
- Is you comment a whole essay? Everyone appreciated nice long comments... perhaps up to 10 sentences. Beyond that is usually TMTR (To much to read). So keep it within boundaries.
- In case of feedback, are you giving reasons and suggestions on improvement, or just simply naming the mistakes? Feedback only works when you're nice about it and are able to explain why and how they can do better.

Here is some tips for approaching artists you admire with a comment or note in a way that will make them reply:
Don't idolize them to much. This will make them uncomfortable. It also seems like you put yourself below them in some way. We're all equals.. and we like to communicate as such.
When you ask them questions you are basically asking them to spend some time for you to help you out. So in that case make sure you have given them something beforehand that gets you in their good graces. You're more likely to get help or answers when they feel like you're not just person nr 100 who wants something from them. 
While it's perfectly fine for you to approach them as equals. They are not you best pal's (yet) so try and be normal and be careful with friendly jokes. 
Don't talk smack about other artists as a way of befriending someone. Not everybody likes each other out there, but these are no opening topics. Basically don't ever talk smack.

How to compliment an artist so that you totally rock!
Every nice comment is appreciated such as: Nice work, Great lighting, Awesome colors etc.
The only reply (if you even get one) would be: thank you!
A comment that rocks is build out if 3 parts.
Part 1: The main praise: Nice work, Awesome work, great work etc.
Part 2: The explanation: Your anatomy skills are outstanding, your lighting is done incredible, your storytelling is really compelling etc.
Part 3: The question! (this will make you get a reply) How did you train to get this good? How do you approach setting up the lighting in your work? Do you make thumbnails before getting to such an image? etc

So a good example would be:
"Amazing creature design! I thought these were totally adorable in the movie, their personality is so cute and devious at the same time. Did you do a lot of different variation sketches before getting to this one? I would love to see it if you're allowed to show."



Your art gets ignored.There is such a vast amount of artwork online it's like little shells on a beach. When you see them all laying there, even though they're all different and unique, you can't seem to linger on any one of them, until you see that bigger one with he rare shape. This basically means your work need to be different from others so that you stand out more. different how?
- Different topic.
- Different technique or medium.
- Different style.
- Or simply outstanding skill.
If you art gets ignored it doesn't mean it's bad art it simply means it's not rare enough. Making something that's truly admirable is hard. People that make admirable artwork more than once or twice get lucky and usually stay quite popular even if other work they post is of less significance, they already conquered the eye of the beholder. 

So when you post your artwork you do this with certain expectations. Will people like it? (In my opinion you should always make your personal artwork so that you personally like it, if other people do as well it's only a bonus) By asking yourself these questions you can discover if perhaps there are ways to improve your work so that maybe other people can appreciate it as you do

Is it pleasing for the eye? Colors that don't work well together or the wrong use of values can really throw people off. As well as unclear compositions or a wobbly technique. (This takes a lot of practice to don't be to hard on yourself if you cannot manage that yet).
Is it something that's not seen this way before? Let say you painted a viking warrior. there are plenty of versions out there where they are posing with an ax or sword, or screaming while going berserk. Usually incredibly muscular and wearing a helmet with horns. This is pretty cliche and on get's noticed when done with outstanding skills or done by an already popular artist.
Give him a different outfit design, perhaps he's not that crazy muscular. Set him in a different scene, maybe he's resting while polishing a spear-tip while enemies lurk from a distance.
- Alter the design.
- alter the situation/storytelling.
This would be ace! 
Paint-styles is like fashion. Every season has it's own popular style/technique and this shifts now and then. So either totally own this technique while it's still popular or deviate from it by doing something unique and different. Now that is pretty hard
Well done fan art. this always wins Basta! (And this one from Diablo 3 rocks in particular! The storytelling is really cool and I love seeing these heroes in a "after combat" situation)





Your portfolio get's ignored.Now this is one of the most annoying of all, especially if you rely on income through your art.
The same things apply here as they did with the reasons why your art get's ignored. But there is more.
Is your portfolio showing to many different skills? (graphic design, concept art, illustration, 3D modeling, black belt karate and great swimmer etc. Simply adjust your portfolio depending on the client you send it too.
Is your portfolio actually showing that you can bring something new to the table? If you have a concept art portfolio and you only show cliche things that look awesome but are not innovative companies are not likely going to hire you. concept art is not only about skill but mostly about ideas. Astonish them with your broad sense of imagination. 
Always start with showing your best image. No text no nothing, just your best image. (Your CV should contain all the text. Portfolio should just be a few of your best images)

In fact here is a whole journal about making a good portfolio:
  Where to get started before you can apply for workThere is no such thing as suddenly knowing when you are ready to turn yourpassion into your profession. But there is a way of measuring your chances on beingable to get work and eventually sustain a living from it. Accepting commissions or freelance for low payment won't help you. You can think any penny counts, but it will lower the worth of your work and damage the market. :bulletblue: How to measure that you are ready? You probably have high goals, but they are usually not your first step. You must search out the clients who can be that first step. Often found in the card game industry, book cover illustrations and smaller game co...


In the end, some people simply ignore you because of the lack of time or will to reply. This is yet again not something against you. Others simply don't see a reason why they would even have to reply (these are usually the people that don't really read the comments either but perhaps scroll through them a bit) they are not mean or evil, they simply have other priorities. (Like maybe making more art!)



Let me know if you have any questions or remarks. (Feel free to send me a Note about my grammar or English and I will gladly edit my mistakes.) 


All my other journals:
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This person doesn't have to be more skilled than you. However, this person... might be wrong.... :bulletpurple: How do you judge a critique?You initially made your artwork according to the knowledge you currently have. Leaving room for mistakes in the elements you're not trained or knowledgeable ... So tired of not achieving what you want?So tired of not achieving what you want?:thumb351497375:Everyone has something they really want dearly, a career, to have a certain loved one, to be able to make certain things...The most common one among us artist are:- I want to be able to draw better- I want to be able to draw like "this"person.- I want to earn money with my drawing.- I want to be able to draw what I imagine in my head.- I want more people to appreciate my art.- I want more feedback from artists I admire.- I want more..- I want better....All this wanting.. dreaming of... hoping for.How about doing it!! With these sort of "wants", it's a matter of DOING IT!How? You ask?T... 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The emotional shield that prevents hurt.Being an artist = Being sensitive. We all know it. Making something and then showing it out there makes you very vulnerable, emotionally. What if people think it's shit? What if they think it's weird... what will they think? Will that reflect on how they think of me as a person?I know what some of you are thinking right now... 'You should care less about what people think of you or you art.' In a sense you are right.. than again, you SHOULD care what people think of you and your art! They are your market and potential clients. It's easier when you're already doing your dream job and couldn't care less for other potential directions... but ... Being a miserable artist = being a bad artist.I recently felt it being one of the most important things, not just for an artist; being happy with what you do. No one wants to get up every morning thinking.. shit .. another work day. Of course there can be days, maybe even a full week of that, but the majority of your time you should be feeling content and happy even.With that lack of love and enthusiasm it is most likely reflected into your work.Now it's not always your own fault that your work doesn't make you happy and doesn't feed your creative monster. But it can be in these cases.You make your OWN workday miserable when::bulletblue: If you don't speak your mind and stand up for y... Timing fucking matters.Time does a lot of things, it makes you older, it gets you to places, it never stops going forward. However you control when and how you use it!Everyone makes choices on a daily bases, most of them are actually done with your auto-pilot function out of habit. Most people usually sit in the same spot on the couch, chooses what to wear based on previously made combinations and so on, unless they consciously become aware of their action and might decide it's time for a change. 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I've often spend my time discussing the best way to handle commissions with clients and artist friends that I came to the conclusion that clarity and understanding is key. I will divide the guidelines I work with based on 3 commission types. :bulletblue: Character commissions. :bulletblue: Book covers ( or illustrations) :bulletblue: Concept art.Reading all 3 parts will give you the full scope as a lot of it applies to one another as well.:bulletgreen: Character commissions.:bulletblue: 1. Referenc... The Key to keeping yourself motivated properly.Let me start off with telling you what motivation is and why you need it.A motivation is a reason behind doing something a certain way to work yourself up to a certain goal. Just having a goal but no understanding of how to get there, means you have no way to motivate yourself and your goal will be hard to reach. Therefore motivation is needed desperately in order to become truly good at something.The motivation to eat is the feeling for hunger and the end goal of ending the hunger and feeling healthy and energized. This type of motivation is a feeling. Which brings me to: Intrinsic motivation and Extrinsic motivation.Shortly explained: ... How fear motivates my art.:bulletred: When I first saw Jurassic Park in 1993 I was four years old. The animatronics they build had me convinced real and the cinematography was amazing. All from the toilet scene to the dismembered arm to the kitchen scare had me high on adrenaline. This was the first time I had felt scared enough to pee my pants but I loved it! The fact that these dinosaurs were scaring me was the same reason why I was so fascinated by them. The oldest toys I can remember were tiny plastic dinosaurs and my bed sheets had a lovely 'Land before time.' print on it. Every day of my childhood life was dedicated to dinosaurs (and perhaps a bit of Indiana... Tenacity is your ultimate super power!100 no's and 1 yes means YES! :P Applying for jobs in the art/commercial industry is not hard you simply need to know what to do and how to do it. (Concept artist, Illustrator, 3D artist, UI designer, Mattepainter, SFX artist, Lightingartist, Designer.) Often when I have a back and forth with artists 'trying to break through' I ask them where they applied and with what. A common respond usually indicates they send out their personal portfolio to 1-5 places at the most. This is exactly what I did as well when I tried the first time. Let me paint you a hypothetical situation: You worked hard and long on your artwork and it somewhat reached ... Achieving your dreams. Before during and after.It’s been on my mind for 5 years now, started as a whisper in the back of my brain, hardly believing that I am capable of achieving it. Than slowly it developed into a goal, something that I might be able to achieve after all … perhaps. I want to illustrate for my favorite realm in the world: Magic the Gathering. Phew, feels heavy saying it. The notion warms my chest and raises my heartbeat ever so slightly feeling the rush of adrenaline coursing through my veins. I’ve witnessed my boyfriend and some friends do work for them for 2 years now while I was too burned out from Studio work (concept art for computer games.) and honestly, to...

Thanks for all the comments! I will do my best to reply to most of them, even if it sometimes takes a while, reading these always cheers me up a lot! 

Wanna ask me direct questions? Come hang with me on Twitch sometime where I paint and give feedback
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Disclaimer: The artwork posted in my journals are not made by me but artists I admire. This is my way of sharing their incredibly work with the rest of you. All these journals are based on my personal experience and that of artist friends. English is my second language and I have dyslexia so do note I am prone to make mistakes. I write these journals to remind myself of the things I've learned.

Thank you!



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Comments: 2135

TardisGhost [2018-10-16 11:50:44 +0000 UTC]

Hm... Somehow I feel odd now.
Sure, I love to spread my stuff as far as possible, but it never really bothered me too much if it gets widely noticed or not.
It's for the fun of doing it. And DA is more of a... err... you know... this drawer you put all your stuff in and never tidy up, cause... reasons.
  

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Terriku06 [2018-10-12 13:07:11 +0000 UTC]

my art only gets noticed a few times even tho I have a huge amount of followers , even some of my favorite artists follow me now but I barely get that much feedback or constructive criticism to help me Improve which is really upsetting and discouraging , I'm probably overreacting but thats what I feel like 

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PurpleLunaStars10 In reply to Terriku06 [2019-04-17 23:16:28 +0000 UTC]

Just 13 watchers and few favorites? Gosh, why. I think people don't recognize your art because it's similar with the official style. The majority of the Sonic fans think's it's simple that style.

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Lolinondoda In reply to Terriku06 [2018-12-16 14:42:20 +0000 UTC]

Can relate, fam.

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Dev807v [2018-10-07 01:07:43 +0000 UTC]

I think my art gets ignored simply because of how ugly and unoriginal my style is.

It makes me want to rip my hair out of my head in frustration.   

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Doggutsz In reply to Dev807v [2018-12-03 12:12:12 +0000 UTC]

Dude, your art is lovely

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Terrawrin In reply to Dev807v [2018-11-07 17:30:15 +0000 UTC]

HAH MAN!
YOUR ART IS GORGEOUS AND THE STYLE IS SO AMAZING- wish there would be more pieces 

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Dev807v In reply to Terrawrin [2018-11-07 23:35:41 +0000 UTC]

ay thank you very much  

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LethalQuest [2018-09-27 13:27:07 +0000 UTC]

i'm probably the only one who isn't even  bothered  or given a damn if my art is ignored. sure , maybe a few feedbacks would help in some situation( if i'm having problem with a sketch with body proportion and need some advice..etc) but other then that, i mostly draw for myself. i like to considered of DA of being my own personal art  decoration for my account page. xD


the simple key of being a artist is to improved and be proud of  your  art work!  trying to get attention or being noticed will make you go nowhere . in times, it will  eventually happen. personally, i would rather meet artist in person ( some who i know  IRL)  and showed them some of my work in a convention


i remember of making this guy laugh at this  art convention i went last year. he asked me what's my style and i said, my style? you can called it the art of sketching without sketching.  lolol 

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N3O-A1PHA [2018-08-04 22:06:03 +0000 UTC]

Despite me having a shit load of followers, I still don’t get noticed because:

1. Most of my followers are ghosts or people who watch me for no reason

2. This site is over run by fetish artists, it’s fukcing disgusting to the point I have to try posting my art elsewhere to get some damn attention for my ideas I want to share to the world.

3. I don’t have core


Honestly this is what I think

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Barsal In reply to N3O-A1PHA [2018-10-26 21:26:29 +0000 UTC]

man... I have to agree with you especially #2

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N3O-A1PHA In reply to Barsal [2018-10-28 23:35:48 +0000 UTC]

Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way, sorry that its happening to you 

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Tetris-Brigade [2018-08-04 12:17:11 +0000 UTC]

This is extremely eye-opening. Thanks for the tips.

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MrHedonism [2018-08-03 03:06:20 +0000 UTC]

You need a core membership. This shit on EA levels of Pay to Win

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04StartyCornRainbow8 [2018-08-02 17:57:01 +0000 UTC]

I'm not a patient and happy person because the lack of comments i have in many of my art pics which is a huge dissapointment.

I tried to improve my art all the time and they leave me alone.

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MrHedonism [2018-07-09 02:43:57 +0000 UTC]

BRO JUST DRAW ASS, TIDDIES, AND FAT GIRLS! IT'LL GET YOU NOTICED REAL QUICK!!!

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Lolinondoda In reply to MrHedonism [2018-12-16 16:28:37 +0000 UTC]

True true .-. Sad one would have to sink to such low levels just to get some recognition

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ROFLTURKEY In reply to MrHedonism [2018-08-02 16:04:01 +0000 UTC]

Also have core membership XD
Not to name names but I've seen bad art on here. They get an insanely large amount of favs,
views and comments. And yep she got core membership which explains a bit.

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Zankasen In reply to MrHedonism [2018-07-17 02:14:42 +0000 UTC]

So real.I really need to try this.Oh, and girls farting too

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RatchetJak In reply to Zankasen [2018-07-24 03:13:19 +0000 UTC]

Don't forget feet lol

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Lolinondoda In reply to RatchetJak [2018-12-16 16:27:37 +0000 UTC]

Mostly just girl feet tho! And giantesses!

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RatchetJak In reply to Lolinondoda [2018-12-17 01:32:18 +0000 UTC]

Lol

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AliceSacco In reply to ??? [2018-07-08 15:44:40 +0000 UTC]

For this I never complain about me getting ignored. Is all a matter of what you do and how good you are, not because people are evil (some think they're ignored because of others).

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k-i-k-i-a In reply to ??? [2018-07-06 00:02:47 +0000 UTC]

*sigh* I feel like some people deliberately bring you down to make themselves feel better on here. 
I would never do such a thing and I always make sure to give back constructive criticism but sometimes you just don't receive the same. I met many jerks who I blocked because they are absolutely rude (like asking for art request by ordering you to make it instead of a nice greeting and maybe a thank you would be nice), others who just tell you your art sucks and tell you to do whatever they say unconstructively, these are the art snobs who think they are above you. I wouldn't ever give criticism if no one asks for it, that's why I feel everyone should respect what people want. 

This site would be so much better if people respected each other

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abaresque In reply to k-i-k-i-a [2018-07-08 13:28:43 +0000 UTC]

i've been on this site since i was 10, switching accounts multiple times, and sadly i'd say i agree with some of the things you said.
dA in general isn't really friendly towards artists who are just starting out. i've experienced being left behind, i've expereinced struggling so hard to get around, and my friend had the experience of being cyberbullied right here on this site by more then five people. i nearly got whacked myself trying to stand up for her.
i haven't seen much of the side where people have a complete lack of respect in the comments section, but i do believe its more prevalent in certain sub-communities within the deviantart community.
then again, its always the same on the internet, its just a certain kind of people. dA, youtube, tumblr, you name it, there'll always be people like them. just ignore them, because you win when you consciously decide not to give them the attention they want from you or the negative feelings they want to get out of you. sometimes its just thoughtless things that people say.
stay strong mate, soon the better part of the community will come to you.

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k-i-k-i-a In reply to abaresque [2018-07-08 14:55:18 +0000 UTC]

I will, thanks for the advice!

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KVelius [2018-05-10 20:56:04 +0000 UTC]

what about people ask for a commission and not even watch or fave you...

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RatchetJak In reply to KVelius [2018-07-24 03:14:36 +0000 UTC]

Eh that's not such a big deal I think. So long as they pay for their commission and at least give credit to who drew it.

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KVelius In reply to RatchetJak [2018-07-31 20:22:02 +0000 UTC]

they don't pay or give credit they want it for "personal use"

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RatchetJak In reply to KVelius [2018-08-01 01:35:50 +0000 UTC]

Oh.... :/

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Blaria95-love-bunny In reply to ??? [2018-05-10 05:11:59 +0000 UTC]

This is all good information but why do people's artwork get ignored IF they don't idolize the artist TOO MUCH, or say an unnappealing comment, SO ON, SO ON?  In the  comments I have noticed that others have said that they post GREAT ART but it JUST GETS IGNORED.  Why is that?  I would like to know.  It's the same exact case with MY account.   I'm not intending to sound whiny- I just don't understand why people don't give a chance to the LESS KNOWN artists on this website. 

What really IRKS ME EVEN MORE is that some people on this website WILL GET LOADS MORE ATTENTION TO THEIR WORK THAN SOMEONE WHO HAS HAD THEIR ACCOUNT ON THIS WEBSITE FOR YEARS, WORKS HARD AT WHAT THEY DO, BUT YET GETS LITTLE NOTICE AND ATTENTION EVEN SO.  I love this website, I really do: but it just seems like, no matter what: people really don't give a crap about the lesser known artists on this website.

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KarineKMattos [2018-05-06 19:38:27 +0000 UTC]

I have the problem with my art not getting noticed nor shared and it's really heartbreaking. But i get friends and people telling me they really like it, one or other using it as lock screen, good artists praise it, I (I) know it's finally been good and i finally like what i do but it feels like no one cares. The only place i slowly more recognition is on instagram (2-3 new followers per post and sometimes da). I've even drawn and shared fanart but they still don't care Hardly ever anyone criticized my art. help??? am i doing something wrong? And i'm very considerate of others.

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KarineKMattos In reply to KarineKMattos [2018-05-06 19:40:48 +0000 UTC]

i wouldn't care at all if i wasn't decided to make art my career :/ so it's an actual problem

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Zankasen In reply to KarineKMattos [2018-07-17 02:16:31 +0000 UTC]

É o que decidi para mim também, e tenho medo.Mas você está evoluindo bastante, já estou te seguindo aqui Não desista!

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KarineKMattos In reply to Zankasen [2018-07-27 22:28:06 +0000 UTC]

Ahhhh obrigada!! Tu consegues! ^^ O mais importante é seguires o que mais gostas, mesmo que seja difícil vale à pena.

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RaltheCommentator In reply to ??? [2018-03-27 05:09:58 +0000 UTC]

Great advice! I, too, am struggling with putting a lot of work into my art, and having little to nobody noticing it. But this puts it in a more positive perspective than the typical “your art is ignored because it sucks” way I’ve been used to assuming.

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tokyo-lover2 In reply to ??? [2018-03-10 07:53:15 +0000 UTC]

o
not getting fav or comments is one thing but not getting any views either is so damn discouraging
i mean people don't even click on the piece just to see it bigger.  

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ROFLTURKEY In reply to tokyo-lover2 [2018-08-02 16:05:56 +0000 UTC]

Core members get all the views in the world.

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DanielaIvanova In reply to tokyo-lover2 [2018-03-21 08:30:47 +0000 UTC]

That's why professional artists start out a piece by making thumbs - if something isn't appealing in thumb format people won't click it.

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tokyo-lover2 In reply to DanielaIvanova [2018-03-21 17:17:31 +0000 UTC]

well i never judge art by thumbs

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DanielaIvanova In reply to tokyo-lover2 [2018-03-22 00:16:51 +0000 UTC]

I'm not talking about judging - I'm talking about piquing interest and readability.

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tokyo-lover2 In reply to ??? [2018-03-10 07:47:56 +0000 UTC]

Best motivation for an artist?
A huge amount of fav and countless comments in which people tell you how wonderful, amazing, brilliant, awesome your art is.

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Noctis-Corvus In reply to ??? [2018-03-09 10:09:44 +0000 UTC]

Honestly, I'd rather have my art be ignored than throw away my vision and art style. If people want to pass my art up, it's their loss.

My philosophy? Art exists whether or not we wish it so. I know I'm not the best artist on the site, but I'm improving, and hope to eventually reach a better art level then I currently am at.

I will be different. I will make art about my own stories. I will make art when Inspiration strikes, because that is how I work. If others don't like that, then it doesn't matter to me. What matters to me is that I am able to make it and put it out into the world. Those who notice and respond (even criticise it) to it will be the people I pay attention to.

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Lolinondoda In reply to Noctis-Corvus [2018-12-16 16:32:53 +0000 UTC]

True, I draw what I like, how I like it. I'm not going to change that just so more people will wanna look at it. I draw for me first and foremost.

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Noctis-Corvus In reply to Lolinondoda [2018-12-16 22:29:50 +0000 UTC]

And that is to be commended. Those who stick to their vision are actual artists, imo.

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Texaal [2018-03-01 17:16:24 +0000 UTC]

I have too same situation who said ethereal-crybaby because I have watchers when I'll back first press to watch somebody although I have some arts but I don't why there are ignored

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the1toastgod [2018-02-23 02:30:53 +0000 UTC]

Whats sad is that 90% of the front page is porn. and has no mature content filter.

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Pop-s-ii In reply to ??? [2018-02-11 14:11:00 +0000 UTC]

what's sad is that 90% of the people who watch me only do it because i watch people back, which means i'll be lucky to get 15+ views on a artwork i worked on for 2 days; it just hurts that people just watch me for nothing.

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KVelius In reply to Pop-s-ii [2018-05-10 20:59:06 +0000 UTC]

I started posting yesterday and people seem to message me and ask me for commissions and after they take the commission they don't even say thanks or watch or fave me...

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Pop-s-ii In reply to KVelius [2019-04-19 19:20:31 +0000 UTC]

I barely even get a commission request lol

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