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People often get the sense of being ignored in the art-scene, especially here online. We all try so hard to get our foot in the door, it's like trying to stuff yourself in an overfull bus like a sardine in a can.
Sometimes you just want to socialize with other artists you admire and you seem to be talking into a brick wall or perhaps you've send your portfolio to a company over a dozen times and still don't even seem to get the smallest response or feedback. I will try and tell you WHY you get ignored and HOW you can get noticed instead.

I will go through the following cases of being ignored:
Your comment.
Your art.
Your Portfolio.


Do know, that even though being ignored feels very personal it's hardly ever personal at all! 



Your comment(s) gets ignored.It happens ever so often. You notice an artwork or a discussion and you weigh in with your opinion or admiration, perhaps even some feedback? There is a whole list of reasons why you can get ignored in such cases. 
- Is your comment simply reconfirming what someone else already said? Either just post: I agree with "name" or don't comment at all, unless you got something new to add.
- Is your comment shorter than 4 words? When someone gets dozens of comments, they often have to pick which ones to reply to and which ones not to. The most insightful ones will be the ones that get a reply.
- Is you comment a whole essay? Everyone appreciated nice long comments... perhaps up to 10 sentences. Beyond that is usually TMTR (To much to read). So keep it within boundaries.
- In case of feedback, are you giving reasons and suggestions on improvement, or just simply naming the mistakes? Feedback only works when you're nice about it and are able to explain why and how they can do better.

Here is some tips for approaching artists you admire with a comment or note in a way that will make them reply:
Don't idolize them to much. This will make them uncomfortable. It also seems like you put yourself below them in some way. We're all equals.. and we like to communicate as such.
When you ask them questions you are basically asking them to spend some time for you to help you out. So in that case make sure you have given them something beforehand that gets you in their good graces. You're more likely to get help or answers when they feel like you're not just person nr 100 who wants something from them. 
While it's perfectly fine for you to approach them as equals. They are not you best pal's (yet) so try and be normal and be careful with friendly jokes. 
Don't talk smack about other artists as a way of befriending someone. Not everybody likes each other out there, but these are no opening topics. Basically don't ever talk smack.

How to compliment an artist so that you totally rock!
Every nice comment is appreciated such as: Nice work, Great lighting, Awesome colors etc.
The only reply (if you even get one) would be: thank you!
A comment that rocks is build out if 3 parts.
Part 1: The main praise: Nice work, Awesome work, great work etc.
Part 2: The explanation: Your anatomy skills are outstanding, your lighting is done incredible, your storytelling is really compelling etc.
Part 3: The question! (this will make you get a reply) How did you train to get this good? How do you approach setting up the lighting in your work? Do you make thumbnails before getting to such an image? etc

So a good example would be:
"Amazing creature design! I thought these were totally adorable in the movie, their personality is so cute and devious at the same time. Did you do a lot of different variation sketches before getting to this one? I would love to see it if you're allowed to show."



Your art gets ignored.There is such a vast amount of artwork online it's like little shells on a beach. When you see them all laying there, even though they're all different and unique, you can't seem to linger on any one of them, until you see that bigger one with he rare shape. This basically means your work need to be different from others so that you stand out more. different how?
- Different topic.
- Different technique or medium.
- Different style.
- Or simply outstanding skill.
If you art gets ignored it doesn't mean it's bad art it simply means it's not rare enough. Making something that's truly admirable is hard. People that make admirable artwork more than once or twice get lucky and usually stay quite popular even if other work they post is of less significance, they already conquered the eye of the beholder. 

So when you post your artwork you do this with certain expectations. Will people like it? (In my opinion you should always make your personal artwork so that you personally like it, if other people do as well it's only a bonus) By asking yourself these questions you can discover if perhaps there are ways to improve your work so that maybe other people can appreciate it as you do

Is it pleasing for the eye? Colors that don't work well together or the wrong use of values can really throw people off. As well as unclear compositions or a wobbly technique. (This takes a lot of practice to don't be to hard on yourself if you cannot manage that yet).
Is it something that's not seen this way before? Let say you painted a viking warrior. there are plenty of versions out there where they are posing with an ax or sword, or screaming while going berserk. Usually incredibly muscular and wearing a helmet with horns. This is pretty cliche and on get's noticed when done with outstanding skills or done by an already popular artist.
Give him a different outfit design, perhaps he's not that crazy muscular. Set him in a different scene, maybe he's resting while polishing a spear-tip while enemies lurk from a distance.
- Alter the design.
- alter the situation/storytelling.
This would be ace! 
Paint-styles is like fashion. Every season has it's own popular style/technique and this shifts now and then. So either totally own this technique while it's still popular or deviate from it by doing something unique and different. Now that is pretty hard
Well done fan art. this always wins Basta! (And this one from Diablo 3 rocks in particular! The storytelling is really cool and I love seeing these heroes in a "after combat" situation)





Your portfolio get's ignored.Now this is one of the most annoying of all, especially if you rely on income through your art.
The same things apply here as they did with the reasons why your art get's ignored. But there is more.
Is your portfolio showing to many different skills? (graphic design, concept art, illustration, 3D modeling, black belt karate and great swimmer etc. Simply adjust your portfolio depending on the client you send it too.
Is your portfolio actually showing that you can bring something new to the table? If you have a concept art portfolio and you only show cliche things that look awesome but are not innovative companies are not likely going to hire you. concept art is not only about skill but mostly about ideas. Astonish them with your broad sense of imagination. 
Always start with showing your best image. No text no nothing, just your best image. (Your CV should contain all the text. Portfolio should just be a few of your best images)

In fact here is a whole journal about making a good portfolio:
  Where to get started before you can apply for workThere is no such thing as suddenly knowing when you are ready to turn yourpassion into your profession. But there is a way of measuring your chances on beingable to get work and eventually sustain a living from it. Accepting commissions or freelance for low payment won't help you. You can think any penny counts, but it will lower the worth of your work and damage the market. :bulletblue: How to measure that you are ready? You probably have high goals, but they are usually not your first step. You must search out the clients who can be that first step. Often found in the card game industry, book cover illustrations and smaller game co...


In the end, some people simply ignore you because of the lack of time or will to reply. This is yet again not something against you. Others simply don't see a reason why they would even have to reply (these are usually the people that don't really read the comments either but perhaps scroll through them a bit) they are not mean or evil, they simply have other priorities. (Like maybe making more art!)



Let me know if you have any questions or remarks. (Feel free to send me a Note about my grammar or English and I will gladly edit my mistakes.) 


All my other journals:
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I've often spend my time discussing the best way to handle commissions with clients and artist friends that I came to the conclusion that clarity and understanding is key. I will divide the guidelines I work with based on 3 commission types. :bulletblue: Character commissions. :bulletblue: Book covers ( or illustrations) :bulletblue: Concept art.Reading all 3 parts will give you the full scope as a lot of it applies to one another as well.:bulletgreen: Character commissions.:bulletblue: 1. Referenc... The Key to keeping yourself motivated properly.Let me start off with telling you what motivation is and why you need it.A motivation is a reason behind doing something a certain way to work yourself up to a certain goal. Just having a goal but no understanding of how to get there, means you have no way to motivate yourself and your goal will be hard to reach. Therefore motivation is needed desperately in order to become truly good at something.The motivation to eat is the feeling for hunger and the end goal of ending the hunger and feeling healthy and energized. This type of motivation is a feeling. Which brings me to: Intrinsic motivation and Extrinsic motivation.Shortly explained: ... How fear motivates my art.:bulletred: When I first saw Jurassic Park in 1993 I was four years old. The animatronics they build had me convinced real and the cinematography was amazing. All from the toilet scene to the dismembered arm to the kitchen scare had me high on adrenaline. This was the first time I had felt scared enough to pee my pants but I loved it! The fact that these dinosaurs were scaring me was the same reason why I was so fascinated by them. The oldest toys I can remember were tiny plastic dinosaurs and my bed sheets had a lovely 'Land before time.' print on it. Every day of my childhood life was dedicated to dinosaurs (and perhaps a bit of Indiana... Tenacity is your ultimate super power!100 no's and 1 yes means YES! :P Applying for jobs in the art/commercial industry is not hard you simply need to know what to do and how to do it. (Concept artist, Illustrator, 3D artist, UI designer, Mattepainter, SFX artist, Lightingartist, Designer.) Often when I have a back and forth with artists 'trying to break through' I ask them where they applied and with what. A common respond usually indicates they send out their personal portfolio to 1-5 places at the most. This is exactly what I did as well when I tried the first time. Let me paint you a hypothetical situation: You worked hard and long on your artwork and it somewhat reached ... Achieving your dreams. Before during and after.It’s been on my mind for 5 years now, started as a whisper in the back of my brain, hardly believing that I am capable of achieving it. Than slowly it developed into a goal, something that I might be able to achieve after all … perhaps. I want to illustrate for my favorite realm in the world: Magic the Gathering. Phew, feels heavy saying it. The notion warms my chest and raises my heartbeat ever so slightly feeling the rush of adrenaline coursing through my veins. I’ve witnessed my boyfriend and some friends do work for them for 2 years now while I was too burned out from Studio work (concept art for computer games.) and honestly, to...

Thanks for all the comments! I will do my best to reply to most of them, even if it sometimes takes a while, reading these always cheers me up a lot! 

Wanna ask me direct questions? Come hang with me on Twitch sometime where I paint and give feedback
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Disclaimer: The artwork posted in my journals are not made by me but artists I admire. This is my way of sharing their incredibly work with the rest of you. All these journals are based on my personal experience and that of artist friends. English is my second language and I have dyslexia so do note I am prone to make mistakes. I write these journals to remind myself of the things I've learned.

Thank you!



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Comments: 2135

ReneeHA [2018-02-10 20:59:48 +0000 UTC]

It really is a struggle being really small on da. it's just annoying going to people's pages asking for comments or watches, so your only hope is basically to post things and pray that someone somehow ends up seeing it.

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AlkeasChoco In reply to ReneeHA [2018-06-08 05:08:45 +0000 UTC]

agree.... so sad ,but thats the fact I am doing now is just pray someone notice me please. 

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ReneeHA In reply to AlkeasChoco [2018-06-08 20:30:29 +0000 UTC]

You have some really nice art!

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AlkeasChoco In reply to ReneeHA [2018-06-09 00:26:46 +0000 UTC]

Oh~~thank you~~you too~~  
I saw your draw and profile~~
I know you still a beginner,what you gonna do now is keep drawing  If lack of idea what going to draw~
Just go to online find some reference or other person artwork and draw as practice~~  
Hope this help you!!  

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ReneeHA In reply to AlkeasChoco [2018-06-10 20:22:53 +0000 UTC]

<3 thank you

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Sarasparks66 In reply to ??? [2018-02-10 12:32:16 +0000 UTC]

I just found this while googling something like, "I feel my work is unoriginal"...I'm in my 60's so, no kid and I look at where I am and think...maybe this is as good as it gets...when I was much younger I felt my work had edge...now...I'm happy that I'm painting again after a huge block that lasted years, but when I came back I dunno, guess I'm at that "maybe this is as good as it gets" stage in my life....

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Superi0nisa0rable In reply to ??? [2018-01-30 04:35:41 +0000 UTC]

But what about the times when you're scrolling through art of your favorite character or whatever and you know you draw better then most of the artists do but they get 100+ favorites while you get pretty nuch 3 maximum? Sorry just depressed I guess and wondering

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midoriin-art In reply to Superi0nisa0rable [2018-03-10 08:23:25 +0000 UTC]

This is the same problem that I have! And it frustrates me
Sometimes you submit great art, whether here or on insta, but it simply gets ignored! This happens to me often and it makes me mant to stop posting anywhere (I already stopped posting here btw)

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Superi0nisa0rable In reply to midoriin-art [2018-03-12 04:33:28 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I keep wanting to stop but I keep posting because I think time is a big issue unfortunately (I promise I draw a lot better than my profile pic, I made it like four and a half years ago but now I can't change it )

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AngelVelvetYT [2018-01-14 20:11:01 +0000 UTC]

hi

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kaiichuuu In reply to ??? [2018-01-08 03:58:28 +0000 UTC]

About 2-3 years ago (before I had access to a tablet), I was drawing traditionally. And might I say it was downright awful lol.
BUT for some odd reason, people actually /liked/ it. In fact, they commented on my work and even fave'd most of it. Now? Nothing.
I've improved very much so in the past few years and I began to wonder why I even post it here anymore. 800+ watchers for what?
Most of them are ghosts or active users that watched me for nothing(?) I guess. Seeing the huge change over the years has made
me rather insecure. Am I doing something wrong? Is my art no good? What can I do to improve my feedback?

And if nothing is wrong with my work, then where do I need to post it instead of dA? 

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JellySnek In reply to kaiichuuu [2018-01-24 18:50:54 +0000 UTC]

Hidden by Commenter

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osphalus In reply to JellySnek [2018-02-05 21:19:04 +0000 UTC]

me thinks you're being a bit passive aggressive here lol

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kaiichuuu In reply to JellySnek [2018-01-24 20:28:13 +0000 UTC]

Lol, I’m not saying I’m not happy with my follower count, but when none of them engage in a conversation with you, favorite your work, etc., it makes you feel a bit bad. But thanks for your concern.

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Hen-WOll [2018-01-06 00:55:56 +0000 UTC]

nice ! and thanx

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AncientWolfSpirit [2017-12-22 05:20:02 +0000 UTC]

It's really hard to do any of that once people are on your ass about how your art sucks and how you should just stop drawing. Not that I ever expect everyone to like my art, but I expect decency, and when I'm told "your art sucks" I want a genuine reason why, like how could I improve. But it's so frustrating when I'm given nothing. I guess it all boils down to taste...and the attitudes of other people. 

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HystericalMellotron In reply to AncientWolfSpirit [2018-01-02 16:58:23 +0000 UTC]

IMO it's because the userbase here is changing and it just isn't as friendly as it used to...I know because I've used to get lots of good comments, even some constructive criticism thrown in for good measure, but since 2 years ago, I'll always get nasty comments every once in a while...personally, if I were you I'd branch out to other places, that's what I'm doing now...I barely care for DA anymore.

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AncientWolfSpirit In reply to HystericalMellotron [2018-01-02 22:39:01 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. I've recently considered moving elsewhere from here, in a recently made art website...and when I say recent, I mean it's a tiny community of aspiring artists trying to get better. REALLY recent. It was recommended to me by a bot, which was fishy at first, but after looking at it, it looks really nice. People are there to help each other out, give advice. Not troll and hate for the fun of it. And I think that the bigger a community gets, the more negative people it attracts. So this newly made community is a good place for an artist to start, or in my case, where an artist can escape negativity. Trolls giving out "critique" on my artwork in which they've never even looking at.

It's called Live Creativity, and since I've posted there it feels like quite a few pounds have been lifted off of my shoulders!

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HystericalMellotron In reply to AncientWolfSpirit [2018-01-03 02:21:10 +0000 UTC]

Cool! I need to check that one out, Ive been using mostly tumblr and pixiv lately, but they're definitely not proper replacements to what DA used to offer. And speaking of bots, one also sent me a link to another art site called wearts (its russian, but it seems like they're developing an english version). Dunno if you've heard of that one...

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AncientWolfSpirit In reply to HystericalMellotron [2018-01-03 03:05:16 +0000 UTC]

No, I haven't...tried looking it up but it seems the website is down for construction purposes. And there's a coincidence too, like how Live Creatively is Russian as well, although it's gradually including the English language as well as others. It seems like with these new art sites, it's becoming an "old with the old, in with the new" kind of situation.

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Aquapoison In reply to ??? [2017-12-15 22:24:53 +0000 UTC]

why did i think this whole journal was going to diss me-

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HydraTheHusky In reply to ??? [2017-12-08 03:15:37 +0000 UTC]

I know someone who's been on deviantart for a week, and they already have 45 watchers. I've been on deviantart for 8 months, and I have a little over 30 watchers. Is their art better than mine? Are they doing something different?

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AcCiDeNt-PrOnE08 In reply to HydraTheHusky [2018-05-02 00:04:49 +0000 UTC]

6 years for 35 watchers...then again, I haven't posted much recently, so that's probably a bulk of why.

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GoronGamer04 In reply to HydraTheHusky [2018-01-01 11:24:01 +0000 UTC]

Dude count yourself lucky I've been on deviantart for 8 months and I have 9 watchers

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SailingInTheSky In reply to HydraTheHusky [2017-12-19 22:09:37 +0000 UTC]

I experienced that too. :/

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BesottedChimp19 In reply to HydraTheHusky [2017-12-13 15:20:40 +0000 UTC]

Lol i can so relate. I only have about 23 lol . 


Then again, my art kinda sucks 😂😂

Lol 

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ReneeHA In reply to BesottedChimp19 [2018-02-10 21:01:38 +0000 UTC]

I've been here for almost two years, and well.. 5 watchers. it's not like my art is close to being good, but it's a bit discouraging

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JellySnek In reply to ??? [2017-12-06 16:10:35 +0000 UTC]

I just know my art sucks and that's why I am ignored. Not much I can do about it ;-; 

I've been on deviantart for 4 months now and I admit, it's hard to get any views. I sometimes feel like I should stop drawing.

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BesottedChimp19 In reply to JellySnek [2017-12-13 15:22:33 +0000 UTC]

Lol same. Usually i can never find the time to really devote my self to a picture. It’s like here and there, you know. Plus, i’m not really a professional artist ( i am trying to improve tho), but that coupled with my lack of time, usually results in an ....  okay drawing. Nothing like other people tho lol 

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JadeSpeedster17 In reply to ??? [2017-11-24 23:46:53 +0000 UTC]

Feel it's just because digital art is the new age and traditional art is often not looked at, especially if you don't have a good scanner. My sister started out and she already has more followers than me in the first year, it took me 3 to 4 year,s i think to even get the number I have. I feel people are just biased to Digital art and brighter clear picture, than fro the actual content.
I'm not upset or angry at this, I'm happy for my sister. Just, it's what I've noticed on my time here.

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BesottedChimp19 In reply to JadeSpeedster17 [2017-12-13 15:26:08 +0000 UTC]

Yea. Usually for me, i usually draw the original picture in a sketch pad (cuz it’s easier for me ) , then i port it to my ipad to color/edit

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JadeSpeedster17 In reply to BesottedChimp19 [2017-12-15 00:29:18 +0000 UTC]

I have trouble with the computer screen, my fingers tend to shake easy when I use a mouth pad and plus I have very large hands for a girl making it harder for me to use my finger on an Ipad or mouse pad with my finger. I tried a Bamboo Deck, but I need to see what I am drawing, it's hard to move my hand and look at a screen. I've tried, and it all turned into crap.

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BesottedChimp19 In reply to JadeSpeedster17 [2017-12-15 13:17:36 +0000 UTC]

lol i can relate. I can’t really draw properly with a mouse and laptop 😂😂

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TechnoBunny16 In reply to ??? [2017-10-02 05:45:44 +0000 UTC]

This is actually a really nice insite! To be honest I often feel discouraged when I would share my art with others then post it juuuust to have it ignored and the thoughts that come up are "Oh geeze maybe they all secretly hated it, maybe I am a bad artist, maybe it's me, maybe I am the issue and no one wants nothing to do with me or my art"
The endless negative thoughts run on and on, and I admit I often get jealous of others I know who are great artist who end up having more support on their art, especially since when you see you have a certain amount of watchers but only a small portion really care much to look at your art and support you. It's pretty heart breaking,
but I gotta remember I am doing this art for myself, which is a hard thing to grasp because as people we crave postive feedback from others and when we don't get it, it often kinda leaves us in the dirt and start to think irrationally and negatively about ourselves and worry too much. However! I am gonna practice hard to remember that the art I create is for no one else but myself ^^

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BesottedChimp19 In reply to TechnoBunny16 [2017-12-13 15:30:54 +0000 UTC]

Same. Like no one comments on my work anymore lol. It can be discouraging sometimes lol 😂 

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Jei-Dinofelini In reply to ??? [2017-09-26 12:55:43 +0000 UTC]

Interesting...
thanks forthe insight

i thought my art was so bad that everyone just hated it
u try my best but well it doesn't seem to work that way
its frustrating when you spend hours or days on one piece and hardly anyone sees it or gives any kind of feedback... 

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SonicJoe731 In reply to ??? [2017-09-21 20:48:12 +0000 UTC]

and there you go.

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MLG-History908 In reply to ??? [2017-09-14 16:26:54 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for posting this. I searched this because I realized after I left DeviantArt for a few days my page views and deviation views were getting low! I started posting some pictures and the views were just like 5-10. I normally got 20-90. I started freaking out because normally I'd visit deviantart everyday just to check notifications but since I left it all my views gone horribly low!

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NexeL-Arts In reply to ??? [2017-09-10 15:44:31 +0000 UTC]

Lately I've been trying not to let that mindset get the best of me, I mean I streamed yesterday with a bunch of people and was actually getting some attention and even follows.  I guess sometimes it's all about being in the right place at the right time, with the right people.  It's very frustrating to find you put hundreds of hours into all your work, and some 10 year old with MS paint and a very unhealthy sonic fetish is getting more views and attention than you have ever gotten in your entire career.  It's just a mystery.  

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IndigoWizard In reply to NexeL-Arts [2017-12-18 01:54:50 +0000 UTC]

Speaking of mysteries,  isn't it funny how all the gods of DA got all their fame from animation memes? 
Why is it that animation that excludes the fundamental basis and difficulty of animation(making each frame fit with the next and previous frame) and isn't even on DA is the driving force for popularity here?

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NexeL-Arts In reply to IndigoWizard [2017-12-18 01:58:43 +0000 UTC]

Beats me my friend. Beats me.

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Bysamy In reply to ??? [2017-08-19 00:16:25 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the insight, ive been looking for something like this and well being ignore doesn´t help n_nUu, ill try to put in practice the tips, do you do critique too? i would love your input

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folanthewolf In reply to ??? [2017-08-04 15:40:40 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, I really appreciate you posting this, I'll do my best to live by it.

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M-G-Studio In reply to ??? [2017-08-02 11:38:44 +0000 UTC]

I've actually had a lot more engagement, favs and watches when I was an amateur than I do now. It's very disappointing.

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KisekiGeijutsu [2017-07-13 09:33:30 +0000 UTC]

it's very frustrating no matter how hard i work, i get very few feedback and i some of my watchers are just not there... i try different approaches to my artwork, like imitating some of my favorite artist, i'm recently making gifs, sharing my art through groups, but nothing seems to work. i keep telling myself that i just have to work hard and someday i might just make it there

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RezTheRipper In reply to ??? [2017-06-19 18:02:55 +0000 UTC]

It feels even harder for writing, because I've joined 23 groups, posted damn near everything I've made to these groups. And guess what: I only get a fav or 2 if I'm lucky. Some stuff I get a lot of favs, but it's because I went to hundreds of accounts asking them to check my page out. Literally. Spent hours sending people notes to visit my page and even more hours making sure I send my work to every group. *Sigh* At least I'm having fun while doing it, but the reason I came here was to get feedback and it feels like it's getting negated.

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Grobir In reply to ??? [2017-06-12 18:02:45 +0000 UTC]

hhhhmmmm.....
I am have style old cartoons (As if from of 1990s). True. I am have not bad style. I also liked drawings in which only 2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9 users added to their favourites, which I also liked.

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chinchongcha In reply to Grobir [2017-06-14 01:17:26 +0000 UTC]

Ganbatte ^^

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