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People often get the sense of being ignored in the art-scene, especially here online. We all try so hard to get our foot in the door, it's like trying to stuff yourself in an overfull bus like a sardine in a can.
Sometimes you just want to socialize with other artists you admire and you seem to be talking into a brick wall or perhaps you've send your portfolio to a company over a dozen times and still don't even seem to get the smallest response or feedback. I will try and tell you WHY you get ignored and HOW you can get noticed instead.
I will go through the following cases of being ignored: Your comment.
Your art.
Your Portfolio.
Do know, that even though being ignored feels very personal it's hardly ever personal at all!
Your comment(s) gets ignored.It happens ever so often. You notice an artwork or a discussion and you weigh in with your opinion or admiration, perhaps even some feedback? There is a whole list of reasons why you can get ignored in such cases.
- Is your comment simply reconfirming what someone else already said? Either just post: I agree with "name" or don't comment at all, unless you got something new to add.
- Is your comment shorter than 4 words? When someone gets dozens of comments, they often have to pick which ones to reply to and which ones not to. The most insightful ones will be the ones that get a reply.
- Is you comment a whole essay? Everyone appreciated nice long comments... perhaps up to 10 sentences. Beyond that is usually TMTR (To much to read). So keep it within boundaries.
- In case of feedback, are you giving reasons and suggestions on improvement, or just simply naming the mistakes? Feedback only works when you're nice about it and are able to explain why and how they can do better.
Here is some tips for approaching artists you admire with a comment or note in a way that will make them reply: Don't idolize them to much. This will make them uncomfortable. It also seems like you put yourself below them in some way. We're all equals.. and we like to communicate as such.
When you ask them questions you are basically asking them to spend some time for you to help you out. So in that case make sure you have given them something beforehand that gets you in their good graces. You're more likely to get help or answers when they feel like you're not just person nr 100 who wants something from them.
While it's perfectly fine for you to approach them as equals. They are not you best pal's (yet) so try and be normal and be careful with friendly jokes.
Don't talk smack about other artists as a way of befriending someone. Not everybody likes each other out there, but these are no opening topics. Basically don't ever talk smack.
How to compliment an artist so that you totally rock!
Every nice comment is appreciated such as: Nice work, Great lighting, Awesome colors etc.
The only reply (if you even get one) would be: thank you!
A comment that rocks is build out if 3 parts.
Part 1: The main praise: Nice work, Awesome work, great work etc.
Part 2: The explanation: Your anatomy skills are outstanding, your lighting is done incredible, your storytelling is really compelling etc.
Part 3: The question! (this will make you get a reply) How did you train to get this good? How do you approach setting up the lighting in your work? Do you make thumbnails before getting to such an image? etc
So a good example would be:
"Amazing creature design! I thought these were totally adorable in the movie, their personality is so cute and devious at the same time. Did you do a lot of different variation sketches before getting to this one? I would love to see it if you're allowed to show."
Your art gets ignored.There is such a vast amount of artwork online it's like little shells on a beach. When you see them all laying there, even though they're all different and unique, you can't seem to linger on any one of them, until you see that bigger one with he rare shape. This basically means your work need to be different from others so that you stand out more. different how?
- Different topic.
- Different technique or medium.
- Different style.
- Or simply outstanding skill.
If you art gets ignored it doesn't mean it's bad art it simply means it's not rare enough. Making something that's truly admirable is hard. People that make admirable artwork more than once or twice get lucky and usually stay quite popular even if other work they post is of less significance, they already conquered the eye of the beholder.
So when you post your artwork you do this with certain expectations. Will people like it? (In my opinion you should always make your personal artwork so that you personally like it, if other people do as well it's only a bonus) By asking yourself these questions you can discover if perhaps there are ways to improve your work so that maybe other people can appreciate it as you do Is it pleasing for the eye? Colors that don't work well together or the wrong use of values can really throw people off. As well as unclear compositions or a wobbly technique. (This takes a lot of practice to don't be to hard on yourself if you cannot manage that yet).
Is it something that's not seen this way before? Let say you painted a viking warrior. there are plenty of versions out there where they are posing with an ax or sword, or screaming while going berserk. Usually incredibly muscular and wearing a helmet with horns. This is pretty cliche and on get's noticed when done with outstanding skills or done by an already popular artist.
Give him a different outfit design, perhaps he's not that crazy muscular. Set him in a different scene, maybe he's resting while polishing a spear-tip while enemies lurk from a distance.
- Alter the design.
- alter the situation/storytelling.
This would be ace! Paint-styles is like fashion. Every season has it's own popular style/technique and this shifts now and then. So either totally own this technique while it's still popular or deviate from it by doing something unique and different. Now that is pretty hard
Well done fan art. this always wins
Basta!
(And this one from Diablo 3 rocks in particular! The storytelling is really cool and I love seeing these heroes in a "after combat" situation)
Your portfolio get's ignored.Now this is one of the most annoying of all, especially if you rely on income through your art.
The same things apply here as they did with the reasons why your art get's ignored. But there is more. Is your portfolio showing to many different skills? (graphic design, concept art, illustration, 3D modeling, black belt karate and great swimmer etc. Simply adjust your portfolio depending on the client you send it too.
Is your portfolio actually showing that you can bring something new to the table? If you have a concept art portfolio and you only show cliche things that look awesome but are not innovative companies are not likely going to hire you. concept art is not only about skill but mostly about ideas. Astonish them with your broad sense of imagination.
Always start with showing your best image. No text no nothing, just your best image. (Your CV should contain all the text. Portfolio should just be a few of your best images)
In fact here is a whole journal about making a good portfolio:
Where to get started before you can apply for workThere is no such thing as suddenly knowing when you are ready to turn yourpassion into your profession. But there is a way of measuring your chances on beingable to get work and eventually sustain a living from it.
Accepting commissions or freelance for low payment won't help you. You can think any penny counts, but it will lower the worth of your work and damage the market. :bulletblue: How to measure that you are ready? You probably have high goals, but they are usually not your first step. You must search out the clients who can be that first step. Often found in the card game industry, book cover illustrations and smaller game co...
In the end, some people simply ignore you because of the lack of time or will to reply. This is yet again not something against you. Others simply don't see a reason why they would even have to reply (these are usually the people that don't really read the comments either but perhaps scroll through them a bit) they are not mean or evil, they simply have other priorities. (Like maybe making more art!)
Let me know if you have any questions or remarks. (Feel free to send me a Note about my grammar or English and I will gladly edit my mistakes.)
All my other journals:
The 5 bullshit myths of concept art.Concept art is getting bigger and bigger. More people know what it is nowadays, it gets shown in the media more often and more books get released. This automatically results into more people wanting to become concept artists. So many artschools are now creating special courses all towards game art or concept art. (Game art can also include UI design, 3D modeling etc.).Yet it is a fairly new thing to most people and the idea of "becoming a concept artist" has grown rapidly over such a short time that a lot of people who are new to it seem to get a lot of misguide info. I am going to try to list this misguided info and direct you to the corr...
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Most of you have really tried their best and it shows! I couldn't have asked for better or more, choosing the winners among these was already aching my brains.
This journal will show the winners and the special mentions but also a bit about how to higher your changes on winning contests (maybe good for the next one).
This was my contest for those interested:
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Accepting commissions or freelance for low payment won't help you. You can think any penny counts, but it will lower the worth of your work and damage the market. :bulletblue: How to measure that you are ready? You probably have high goals, but they are usually not your first step. You must search out the clients who can be that first step. Often found in the card game industry, book cover illustrations and smaller game co...
This is why you (and your art) get ignored.People often get the sense of being ignored in the art-scene, especially here online. We all try so hard to get our foot in the door, it's like trying to stuff yourself in an overfull bus like a sardine in a can.
Sometimes you just want to socialize with other artists you admire and you seem to be talking into a brick wall or perhaps you've send your portfolio to a company over a dozen times and still don't even seem to get the smallest response or feedback. I will try and tell you WHY you get ignored and HOW you can get noticed instead.I will go through the following cases of being ignored:
:bulletgreen: Your comment.
:bulletgreen: Your a...
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https://www.fac...
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You can count that pretty much every person out there works like this and YOU often depend on THEIR cho...
Things I learned at: The Industry Workshops 2014Holy shit amazeballs... this past weekend....
But let me start of by shortly telling you what the industry workshops actually were.
(The artwork in this journal are from some of the lecturers.) :bulletblue: What is: #IW_14? The Industry workshops took place last weekend August 29 to 31 2014, at 2 venues both located at Hoxton Square, London United Kingdom.
It was organized and hosted by a group of industry professionals in the fields of concept art, matte painting and illustration in film, games and freelance.
Let me name the people that profited the lectures and demo's from 10 in the morning to 8 in the evening, ending with a 1+ hour QA...
When inspiration is far to be found...We all get these anoying times when we really want to make something cool, get inspired and work that magic. We see everyone around us (online) do it, but how come we are not?
So we look for ways to get inspired, we ask around, find these usual answers: go watch a film, listen to music.. take a walk...But even when we do that, we still end up stuck most of the time.
Part of the solution is knowing WHY we get stuck and this is my theory.:bulletblue: ADT - Attention Deficit Trait.
'Experiencing an inner frenzy of distractability, impatience, difficulty in setting priorities, staying focused and managing time. Those are our biggest enemies as...
A simple guide on: Commissioning an Artist.It's often not as simple as one wants it to be when both artist and client want it to be: Cost efficient, time efficient and quality efficient.
I've often spend my time discussing the best way to handle commissions with clients and artist friends that I came to the conclusion that clarity and understanding is key.
I will divide the guidelines I work with based on 3 commission types.
:bulletblue: Character commissions.
:bulletblue: Book covers ( or illustrations)
:bulletblue: Concept art.Reading all 3 parts will give you the full scope as a lot of it applies to one another as well.:bulletgreen: Character commissions.:bulletblue: 1. Referenc...
The Key to keeping yourself motivated properly.Let me start off with telling you what motivation is and why you need it.A motivation is a reason behind doing something a certain way to work yourself up to a certain goal. Just having a goal but no understanding of how to get there, means you have no way to motivate yourself and your goal will be hard to reach. Therefore motivation is needed desperately in order to become truly good at something.The motivation to eat is the feeling for hunger and the end goal of ending the hunger and feeling healthy and energized. This type of motivation is a feeling. Which brings me to: Intrinsic motivation and Extrinsic motivation.Shortly explained: ...
How fear motivates my art.:bulletred: When I first saw Jurassic Park in 1993 I was four years old. The animatronics they build had me convinced real and the cinematography was amazing. All from the toilet scene to the dismembered arm to the kitchen scare had me high on adrenaline. This was the first time I had felt scared enough to pee my pants but I loved it! The fact that these dinosaurs were scaring me was the same reason why I was so fascinated by them. The oldest toys I can remember were tiny plastic dinosaurs and my bed sheets had a lovely 'Land before time.' print on it. Every day of my childhood life was dedicated to dinosaurs (and perhaps a bit of Indiana...
Tenacity is your ultimate super power!100 no's and 1 yes means YES! :P Applying for jobs in the art/commercial industry is not hard you simply need to know what to do and how to do it.
(Concept artist, Illustrator, 3D artist, UI designer, Mattepainter, SFX artist, Lightingartist, Designer.) Often when I have a back and forth with artists 'trying to break through' I ask them where they applied and with what. A common respond usually indicates they send out their personal portfolio to 1-5 places at the most. This is exactly what I did as well when I tried the first time. Let me paint you a hypothetical situation: You worked hard and long on your artwork and it somewhat reached ...
Achieving your dreams. Before during and after.It’s been on my mind for 5 years now, started as a whisper in the back of my brain, hardly believing that I am capable of achieving it. Than slowly it developed into a goal, something that I might be able to achieve after all … perhaps. I want to illustrate for my favorite realm in the world: Magic the Gathering. Phew, feels heavy saying it. The notion warms my chest and raises my heartbeat ever so slightly feeling the rush of adrenaline coursing through my veins. I’ve witnessed my boyfriend and some friends do work for them for 2 years now while I was too burned out from Studio work (concept art for computer games.) and honestly, to...
Thanks for all the comments! I will do my best to reply to most of them, even if it sometimes takes a while, reading these always cheers me up a lot!
Wanna ask me direct questions? Come hang with me on Twitch sometime where I paint and give feedback
Suzanne Helmigh Twitch channel
Disclaimer: The artwork posted in my journals are not made by me but artists I admire. This is my way of sharing their incredibly work with the rest of you. All these journals are based on my personal experience and that of artist friends. English is my second language and I have dyslexia so do note I am prone to make mistakes. I write these journals to remind myself of the things I've learned.
Thank you!
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Comments: 2135
akasreina [2017-06-07 17:48:17 +0000 UTC]
tbh im not saying im the best artist but i know im really good enought to get likes attention Like i get on instagram lately . But whenever i post here i barely get any favs . Sucks being a new little account huh.
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Sleepstar In reply to ??? [2017-06-03 21:39:02 +0000 UTC]
I may not be the best artist ever, but I try my best. I plan to redraw a piece of artwork I drew recently of one of my Original Characters to see if my anatomy has improved from a few weeks ago, as well as drawing some fan art (just the other day I managed to draw a character from one of my favourite video games, and as close to the game style as I can. I haven't got the hands right though, but the rest of the anatomy was spot on.) However, I comment whenever I have something to say, but my main strength lays in writing.
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Ositodraws In reply to ??? [2017-06-02 02:31:09 +0000 UTC]
Ok honestly marcio-junior.deviantart.com/ needs more attention. I have more watchers than him and it's just not fair. He does fanart, hashtags stuff and is so good!! I think I was just lucky
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WonderlandTrades In reply to ??? [2017-05-30 15:56:46 +0000 UTC]
This is a very good article thank you, and most of it , i knew, but some did help. Thanks i will be checking our your other ones as well so keep it up we all appreciate it.
Oh and i do deeply agree with all those comments below.
Such as needing to be chatty make friends expose yourself do fan art good tags etc.
But what do you do when you have applied all of what is in this journal and all that is comments,still to no avail? Is it a sign you just shouldn't be well..an "artists (at the very least "Professionally?) or what.
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CutieCaty1 In reply to ??? [2017-05-10 08:39:52 +0000 UTC]
I just post my art. I don't care being ignored. Somebody's bound to like my art 1 day, there are over a million users on this site. I post my art because it's fun. ;3
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carveol [2017-05-08 16:26:48 +0000 UTC]
but there's still something i can't understand.
i joined twitter, i posted some of my works, sketches, generally - best shit i ever done.
but at the most popular post i have..... 2 likes
here i have 1.
and that's okay, i see that my works are not perfect (maybe if i stop doing old mistakes, i will have 5 likes)
but today i saw someone's twitter. started yesterday, posted two sketches.
and both had 300+ and 500+ likes
i get so mad and i cryied for almost 2 hours.
why art community is so unfair?
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ArtifexStudio In reply to carveol [2017-05-10 16:04:28 +0000 UTC]
i think it depends on more than just the art. Did they post fan art or something that could get a lot of likes just because people recognize it. Also how was the quality of your picture? People will ignore something that was poorly photographed. And they might know some people on twitter, they could already have a site that they normally post on and then they told everyone they got a twitter. There's a lot of factors that cause some things to get liked more. Even hashtags could affect it.
don't worry about it too much just try to build up your account. If you just joined it makes sense that not a lot of people saw it.
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LadyArcher2371 In reply to ??? [2017-04-23 15:33:05 +0000 UTC]
I too have seen great artists ignored, like chobek, weremoon, MekaelMahariel13. It's very strange.
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AoiKita In reply to LadyArcher2371 [2017-05-16 15:17:30 +0000 UTC]
people seem to care more about fan art, especially on places like this site. Even though my legend of zelda fan art is one of my best works, regardless it still would have gotten more attention than my original work. I'm tempted to do some more fan art here and there, but only from stuff that actually inspires me because otherwise it turns out awful and unoriginal
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LadyArcher2371 In reply to AoiKita [2017-05-17 03:05:18 +0000 UTC]
I don't know, I love it when people do original drawings, I mean don't get me wrong; it's great to see an artistic interpretation of something familiar, but it's also great to see someone draw something original, it's almost like you get to sneak a peek into their minds you know?
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AoiKita In reply to LadyArcher2371 [2017-05-17 03:35:50 +0000 UTC]
What bothers me most is when fan art is used as a primary subject and an easy path to making money (used as main art income as some do) and popularity. It's kinda illegal, not to mention a bit disrespectful to other artists in an event and the original creator. I think it's okay to have a certain percentage of fan art, we do need a boost to help out, but I definitely see some people making a killing off doing it and relying on someone else's property entirely :/
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LadyArcher2371 In reply to AoiKita [2017-05-17 16:44:52 +0000 UTC]
Yes, I definitely agree with you one hundred percent. I see this happen all too much and it is in it's way thieving
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ewolf20 In reply to ??? [2017-04-22 18:40:01 +0000 UTC]
Honestly, I don't mind being unnoticed. It has its fair share of upsides and downsides, but that doesn't s not mean it's bad. Maybe the reason isn't because your art is crap, the way you comments or your attitude seems either like you feel inferior or superior to others. At the end of the day, I've seen amazing art that has little to no views on and art that's godaweful getting millions of comments. People are just weird sometimes.
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Westerlund2 In reply to ewolf20 [2017-05-02 03:55:29 +0000 UTC]
I agree. I think it's great that some beginners receive a fair amount of attention, but it can be odd when most "average" artists earn -at most- two likes and perhaps even a comment, if they're lucky.
Lmao, my works literally get more attention on Instagram, but I guess there's no harm to keep on trying here.
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I-Twise In reply to ??? [2017-04-21 02:31:15 +0000 UTC]
Very helpful article.I believe that aside from having good and distinct artworks,it is very important to spend time exploring the site,find artworks that you are interested on and put helpful comment/response there.
By doing that,it helps you to expose yourself to other deviants that may not know your existence.Just like in our real life,we need to initiate conversation with others and that's how relationship bonded.
n the end,there are so many people in this website and we can start anywhere we want,but if we never start the action,then nobody will realize us.That is my opinion.
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Teatime-Rabbit In reply to ??? [2017-04-19 04:34:16 +0000 UTC]
At times it can be very discouraging being sort of unnoticed, but we all have to keep trying our best and practice practice practice! ( •̀ᄇ• ́)ﻭ✧ ty for this journal, I'm inspired now!
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SmokeyPearl1 In reply to ??? [2017-04-14 11:33:39 +0000 UTC]
This was very helpful indeed thank you for posting this!
Though sometimes I'm not sure what to think when it comes to no one leaving a comment on my artwork, one person, in particular, will comment but then try to link me to something or will comment and not talk about the drawing at all. I've talked to this person about this but they seem to ignore that now (it had been fine at first).
I definitely want feedback but half of the time I don't get it which frustrates me :/
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TheFunnySpider In reply to SmokeyPearl1 [2017-05-03 17:39:34 +0000 UTC]
You are not the only one, because the same thing is happening to me.
I ask my watchers over and over again to leave me some feedback on my photos when they fave them,
but no one, except for my friends, which ar 3 people, actually do it. The others just ignore it and this
is more than frustrating. It makes me want to give up on dA -.-.
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TRIACE-Unity In reply to ??? [2017-03-27 06:03:52 +0000 UTC]
this is pretty helpful. Thanks.
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Valyus In reply to ??? [2017-02-10 03:17:10 +0000 UTC]
I worked on this asthemoonwaxes.deviantart.com/… piece for over 35 hours and thought it came out very good, but few people even looked at it. I've had artwork that only took a few hours to draw receive more attention, but none of it receives very much.
It seems no matter how hard and how long I work on something, it always fated to get ignored.
Can you or someone else tell me why I'm getting ignored? (I read this journal, but I can't tell what reason(s) applies to my specific situation. As far as I can tell, I'm avoiding all these problems, so I must be missing something, which is why I ask) Why did this picture in particular asthemoonwaxes.deviantart.com/… fail?
I want a honest answer. Is my art bad in general?
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ridvanshc In reply to ??? [2017-01-30 12:45:46 +0000 UTC]
14 watchers in 5 years. I think even by random statistics I should've acquired more but I guess my art is repulsive so there we go. Deviantart is useless for the most part. Cheers
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Valyus In reply to ridvanshc [2017-02-10 02:57:04 +0000 UTC]
I can tell you are very, very skilled, (far beyond what I am) but your subject matter (landscapes and very realistic people) tends to get ignored on here compered to other subject matter. I loved this one ridvanshc.deviantart.com/art/T… because of the deer. I recommend adding animals to your landscapes, and/or going for a less realistic style with your people. Not necessarily fully cartoon if you don't like that, but at least more stylized. Also, more closer views of the animals and people.
Hope that wasn't offensive. I'm trying to help.
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chinchongcha In reply to ridvanshc [2017-02-01 16:36:15 +0000 UTC]
bravo Senpai's skill is so amazing! >,< So inspired!
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ridvanshc In reply to chinchongcha [2017-02-01 19:08:52 +0000 UTC]
You're one of the nicest people I talked to online. Ever. Thanks for your feedback and kind words, much appreciated!
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ReviWolfe In reply to ??? [2017-01-28 18:26:21 +0000 UTC]
I have been gone from DA too long and returned with new higher level art.
I have realized now I post more times in a week people start noticing me.
I've also learned from a friend that once you have nothing much to do, start looking around all over DA, find some core members that mainly
are interested in the same genre. Most core members have the " visitor " tab they will see you've been watching their page.
I favorite new stuff everyday and try to comment on work I really like... they're not long sentences.
Things like
-Awesome
-That's incredible
-Very inspiring.
But I've also been thinking, why I make such a big problem about the fact I'm not getting noticed.. so I stopped that and now draw for myself
and once people favorite it, i feel motivated to keep going because I know that there are people who like my stuff.
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AleuTheSilverWolf In reply to ??? [2017-01-16 01:51:29 +0000 UTC]
I want people to leave feedback and tell me what I can do to improve, or just give their thoughts on. But I only get 2 or zero responses...it makes me feel like there's no point in posting my art all...
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StarDragonAlchemy In reply to AleuTheSilverWolf [2017-04-02 01:42:39 +0000 UTC]
I kinda feel the same way sometimes, other sites there isn't a problem in keeping up with other's taste in appeal. The site is just very big and there are vast amounts of art being posted every few minutes, but this sums up a lot. A Core membership option gets advertised somewhere on the side after posting anything, which really irks me. I like how they kept the upgrade for exchanging points or one time pay rather than monthly. I'd treat it like a baby book more than getting noticed for advice, you could always go offline or post other places. The feeling that comes from it is, less quality tends to get critiques and comments, angles, bright colors and good photos taken from higher resolution cameras grab attention, too nice of work and its up in the air as to what could happen. Even with art that isn't outstanding tends to get comments time from time, but D/A has grown huge over the years and well.. I'll take that 1 view over none! Also, I do like your work and you'll get better through continuous drawing overtime.
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AleuTheSilverWolf In reply to StarDragonAlchemy [2017-04-06 01:23:20 +0000 UTC]
Thank you so much, this made my day
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vydunas In reply to AleuTheSilverWolf [2017-03-03 20:15:03 +0000 UTC]
Well in my opinion you should study more what people like and understand what is an appealing piece of art, ofc it is subjective thing, everyone has different taste and style in mind, but if you want to get more attention you need to understand what people want from you. I might sound really harsh now, but in my perspective, alot of your drawings aren't really drawn in appealing way, you just need to study more fundamentals, try to experiment with colors, forms, use references to draw, draw still life from pictures or real life. And what i really recommend use website called "quickposes.com" and draw alot of poses, like every each in 60seconds or so, and try to finish all of them in time, seems like it would be difficult, but that way youll improve on your drawing human proportions, perspective and drawing in general, and just study basic shading, coloring and etc., try to be original and show off your emotions in your work and/or just show what you enjoy or whats currently happening in life. I started drawing at 2016 september i think, and im slowly improving, my first drawings were really crappy, because i didnt use references most of time. Im not that experienced myself, and im not saying im better than you, we're all equal here, its just that not everyone has studied art long enough or not everyone has used correct methods for learning art. Sorry for such long and vague comment, my english is not that good since im Lithuanian, lol. Dont give up, and work hard mate, lets make good art, okay?
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chinchongcha In reply to AleuTheSilverWolf [2017-01-16 13:29:47 +0000 UTC]
You can post your art in ProjectComment group
There are many senpai and sensei in the group. They help me from zero comment to hundreds in a few month.
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AleuTheSilverWolf In reply to chinchongcha [2017-01-16 19:00:29 +0000 UTC]
Thank you, I'll surely look into it!
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absonewtly In reply to ??? [2017-01-12 17:51:23 +0000 UTC]
hey, i have a question
why is it that more inexperienced artists get so much popularity? like, on my old dA i was there for 2 years and only got like 87 watchers, while a more inexperienced artist (who is a friend) was on dA half the time and got like 2.5x the watchers than i did.
is there a psychological reasoning behind that?
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marceldc In reply to absonewtly [2017-04-09 15:59:54 +0000 UTC]
dA has nothing to do with how good your art is, it's all about how many friends you make to follow you blindly, that's the conclusion I came to, if you don't believe me, go on frontpage, scroll down, see the exposure all the trashy posts get, and then check mine, you'll see that they have more friends than me, easy, ain't nobody got time to draw 10 hours a day and then spend 10 more hours on the internet to make friends, gimme a break.
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tiqerr In reply to absonewtly [2017-02-15 05:42:55 +0000 UTC]
I think it's to do with being more involved with people, and also being more active. Someone that often does requests/art trades/commissions and posts a lot is bound to get more exposure than someone who doesn't.
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chinchongcha In reply to absonewtly [2017-01-17 06:32:38 +0000 UTC]
Keep practice and enjoy drawing is the key. Don't give up ^^
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curtsibling In reply to ??? [2017-01-12 06:27:16 +0000 UTC]
I am no expert, but I have been on DA for many years. I would say is that you have to go out there and make contact. People won't know you if you hide.
You must spend a certain amount of your DA session looking around and finding new artists, and watch them. They most likely will watch you back. Even
the super-elitists have been known to return a watch. And by this method, your aggregate of views will grow, and if you couple this with regular updates,
you will find you will start to grow. Sitting back and expecting floods of people is unrealistic. You must make an effort too.
Just my copper coin.
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moominhexe In reply to ??? [2017-01-03 20:46:50 +0000 UTC]
I guess it's just luck or something. I've been sharing my drawings for years and only now got some attention. In the end I just thought "Why not draw for fun? I'm doing this for myself. I want to see myself improve." And I started caring less about the number of views I was getting.
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chinchongcha In reply to moominhexe [2017-01-17 06:30:14 +0000 UTC]
It's not about luck <3 It's all about hard work and passion.
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Fuzzbolt In reply to chinchongcha [2017-02-17 23:13:25 +0000 UTC]
It is somewhat luck.
You have to be very lucky to be born with good skills of drawing. Otherwise you'll never even reach the average level (just like me. I had another account for 3 years, only 2 watchers, barely any of my arts that I worked really hard on gained ~10 views.)
But just look at my gallery, I just have no talent and that's it.
Even though there's a fix, that you guys have already did: buying Core.
It's like, deviantArt is a pay-to-win website most likely. In the moment you buy Core membership, no matter how shitty your art is, you're going to be celebrated like a god/goddess and will gain a shit load of favs and views. That's just how it works.
Basically just how real life works: You have to 'buy' people to say something good about you, or just to even look at you (literally my life.)
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chinchongcha In reply to Fuzzbolt [2017-06-08 05:18:27 +0000 UTC]
It's not luck.
I worked and practice really hard until I break my hand, hut my back and make my eyes blurry. I started drawing 2 years ago.
My old artwork look really weird. I don't have talent anymore.
Core didn't help about exposure directly. I reach 10k watchers before someone give me core.
Many core membership users never get exposure for 10 years.
Only advantage from core membership is decorate your profile.
It's how real life work. You work hard but there is always someone work harder and sacrifice more.
Some artwork I put several weeks into it. It's not pay-to-win but sacrifice-to-win.
I guarantee It's not about luck.
If your art is good, it will increase the chance to be exposed. It take long time and effort.
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FireBowie [2017-01-02 22:03:51 +0000 UTC]
I already made peace with the fact that, life sucks and there is fuck all we can do about
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BoltBonnet In reply to ??? [2016-12-29 06:41:20 +0000 UTC]
On here, if you're not a woman or Japanese no one wants to talk to you.
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BoltBonnet In reply to AleuTheSilverWolf [2017-01-16 04:26:24 +0000 UTC]
I mean I know that's a strong statement, but this is a website of weeaboos and guys who are trying to impress girls on here in a desperate move. I'm sorry, but compare an American account with great sketches to a Japanese account with crap sketches and see the difference, the same applies to men vs women, I also noticed women get way more comments on their page and works, and when I check the commenters, all guys!
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