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Published: 2012-12-15 03:55:58 +0000 UTC; Views: 913; Favourites: 26; Downloads: 3
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This is my first In memory picture of those young kids who lost their lives in Newtown. Sad..just sad...Whats wrong with the world today? theirs just been to many shootings...Ill be making a 2end in Memory picture..the idea popped in my head while i was getting this one done.
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Pfft, at least you're giving constructive criticism and being polite about your opinion unlike those whiny bitches down below.
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You know cussing a lot shows a lack of vocabulary, right?
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Look, what's more important, what I am trying to say, or my cussing?
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You're cussing actually. Do not diss them for their opinions, cause calling them whiney bitches isn't going to change it no ifs, ands, or buts. The picture itself is not offensive, but the theme behind it is. That's a touchy subject that Hetalia should not be brought into.
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If they are saying their opinions, then they shouldn't make it look rude and butthurt. You call remembrance and sadness (the themes in the picture) offensive? It makes you prejudged as a sociopath.
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They weren't being rude or butthurt, it's more like you are since you are the one cussing and calling them bitches. And then you call me, who is trying to be polite, a sociopath? Now you're bringing a serious personality disorder into play and it doesn't help your case at all. All I'm saying is bringing Hetalia into a tragedy is offensive. This doesn't represent remembrance or sadness, it shows that you think you can bring Hetalia into every little bad thing that happens and it isn't right.
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Yes, it does, if people look deep enough and aren't as blind as a mole rat.
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Even then, no. It shows a lack of respect to keep an anime out of a tragedy.
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((Please do not insult them for just giviny their opinion. ))
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All I'm saying is that when it comes to criticism, people should know their place when giving them.
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((Everyone has a different waybof doing that though.))
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(( This is not art. This is an insult to Americans everywhere. The Newtown shooting is NOT something to use as more hetalia.
You are being an insult to the State of Conneticut.
You are being an insult to the Hetalia Fandom.
and You are being a HUGE insult to the victims of the shooting.
I only state the facts in a neutral manner. If you choose to throw a hissy fit and block me and my main accounts then you'll only get people yelling at you for insulting others and eventually, you will be banned from this website.
I suggest taking this piece down and listening to the facts.
Also, if you and your little friend even DARE speak ~Annabethcat 's name in vain again, I will not show mercy and i will get you banned from this website in a heartbeat. ))
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So you're gonna report it, then? Go ahead. The dA staff will read it as false, anyway.
And this being an insult to the Hetalia fandom? The comments on the third page and beyond say otherwise.
And sorry, I don't think this person will take this down since it doesn't represent hate art.
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hey can we all not fight over a picture ....PLEASE!?
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I seriously think all the comments below is part of the reason people hate the Hetalia fandom.
It's all kind of just a huge war between people because of how big the fandom is. I, honestly, cannot say I find any offense in this specific picture, but I wasn't overly impacted by the shootings.
For the record, I live in Colorado. If I saw pictures or fanfiction that were supposed to be about all these fires that have been going on, then I would be pissed because those fires affected the lives of my friends and school classmates.
(I could continue ranting about this, but I'm not.)
Let's look at the plus side of this picture.
At least the person isn't using the shooting as an excuse to ship USUK or FrUS or some other pairing.
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You and me both. It's just a picture, there's nothing offensive about it.
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I just said I'm not offended because I had no relations to it. That doesn't mean that people who did have someone involved in the shooting or were involved in the shooting themselves wouldn't be offended. They'd have every right to be.
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Well, if they do when they come across this, there's always the back button. Although it's already too late, there's no need to act whiny and calling this offensive, that's just stirring up trouble.
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That's the problem. The back button doesn't always work. If it was tragic enough to them, it could become a trigger. A trigger to the point of where anything would cause them to relapse and potentially hurt themselves.
What good is a back button then? Yes, this picture isn't terrible, but it still has the possibility of triggering someone simply because they've become that sensitive to it.
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If anything, they could at least apologize for their behavior and just enjoy the picture and not ruin it for everybody else, like they are now.
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They are simply trying to point out that to some people it could be considered offensive or triggering. They aren't doing anything wrong, just like people with no relations to what happened are doing nothing wrong by saying it's a nice picture. It is a nice picture, the reasoning behind why it was put up is what the problem is.
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If they have a problem with it, they would just leave.
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I already explained why leaving wouldn't solve anything.
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I mean leaving their computer for a while, you know, just to vent.
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Ooooh. I mentioned that as well, in the form of they may do something they can't take back. Leaving the computer wouldn't help any.
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Then again, I don't think it matters. It's their own fault for looking at it.
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Okay. So if you were someone who was heavily triggered by these events, and saw something that made itself plain to the triggering event in the search results of DeviantART for something that should be completely unrelated, it's their fault?
This picture, like I mentioned, isn't that bad. But what if, for instance, it was a picture of America being shot in the halls of Sandy Hook? With the fact DeviantART increased the size of the thumbnails on the search results page, it is much easier to see than before.
So searching 'hetalia america' can potentially show this result. With the increased thumbnail size, it's their fault for looking at the picture?
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*scratches head* Hmmm...
Well, you take a quick glance at it and move on, it shouldn't be, well, problematic, but when they stare at it for a long time, then it's most likely their fault. To think, you said some people consider something triggering. That got me to thinking that "triggering" automatically means "triggering emotions." The people let this picture trigger their emotions and makes butthurt comments. They did not control their emotions, their emotions controlled them. Their emotions make them make the wrong judgments, according to popular belief. With that being said, the person who makes these types of comments only gets the blame, because they were unable to control their emotions and not let their emotions control them, not the person who uploaded it.
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Okay. I didn't follow that very well, so I'll reply to the best that I can. The people who commented saying it's offensive wouldn't be the ones triggered. They're the ones trying to make sure people who would be triggered don't see those types of pictures.
The people who would be triggered in question would suffer from mental illnesses such as PTSD. It would be cases where even a glance would be enough for their brain to put the pieces together, not something that they would have to sit and stare at forever.
For me, I have an aversion to rape. Hetalia is a very, very rape-fun fandom, so I have to be careful when I search. I was looking through a pairing tag on Tumblr and the fact I happened to come across something saying (Character A) rapes (Character B) almost sent me over the edge. So is it really my fault for reading it instead of simply skimming past when I wanted to make sure I looked at every single post?
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In some cases such as rape, sexism, racism, bigotry, pedophilia, etc. (as in explicit images of the person actually raped, hate on a certain sex, race, on homosexuality, and explicit images of children under 18 doing things in a sexual manner) it wouldn't be your fault for searching it up and looked at posts of it, it's the person who posted it to blame. Those types of cases have win(the one who searched any of these up)-lose(the one who posted any of these) situation.
In other cases such as tributes and remembrances of victims of certain terrifying experiences or disasters including, but not limited to, rape, sexual assault, a massacre, a weather/natural disaster (i.e. earthquakes, flooding, etc.), war, terrorism, bombings, and the like, then it's technically the person's fault for taking a glance of posts of these topics (unless the person who posted these is promoting and glorifying them gets the blame). However, that's only dependable on whether a piece of work is to raise awareness, remember those who have fallen, and victims of abuse, bullying, assault, sexual assault, or to promote any of those things. Say I, um, write a symbolic, formal, and deep poem about rape, and my intention was to raise awareness of it. And suddenly someone comes in and makes a shrill comment on how saying my rape poem was offensive and does not help. Who gets the blame, me, the person who wrote the poem, or the person who said it was offensive? The person who says it gets the blame because the morale of my poem was to raise awareness of rape. While rape isn't considered deep-meaning and formal, the poem itself is, and it does not harbor any offense whatsoever.
In this case of victims of massacre, this picture of America crying over the fallen victims of the Sandy Hook massacre is deep. This is an example of remembrance; it tells us to never forget the victims of the massacre; the children, and the fallen; the teachers who died protecting them.
All in all, tragic events/traumatizing personal experiences recreated in literature or works like this, and reminding us to never forget the victims or the fallen are never supposed to be looked at as offensive (unless said events/experiences are glorified in some way). Sure, they may be touchy subjects, and even though the people who are sensitive/emotional can't control their sensitivity/emotions, it is their fault for clicking on something that's supposed to be a remembrance or a tribute to the fallen and the victims.
P.S. If it confuses you, the "fallen" refers to the brave people who have fallen, namely war veterans or civilians who protect those they care about and die in the process, remembered as heroes by the public. The "victims" are those who are the innocent people, who are killed, assaulted, raped, and/or bullied.
*sigh* Long comment is long, but at least I hope I explained and clarified everything. If not, then sorry.
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It's fine, but you seem to be missing my main point.
My main point is that these people don't go looking for this stuff. The incident where I found that rape fic when I was looking through the pairing tag is the perfect example. I wasn't looking for it. I wanted to find some cute fanart of the pairing and happened to run across it. In that case, I only had to read the very big, very bold title to start freaking out.
If someone where to search pictures of America and find this, it's possible all they would need to do is read about the shooting to start their relapse. They could think the picture is great and start wondering why America is so sad, so they would click on the picture and read the artist comments to run across that.
It's in that grain that lays the problem. No matter how unlikely it sounds, it's still completely possible.
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Yea remember when the fandom used season 5 as an excuse for USUK to be canon? God our fandom. Basically one huge fandom divided into smaller subgroups.
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Oh god. I remember the petition that was supposed to make USUK canon by basically making it a whole movie.
I consider myself part of the Hetalia fandom, but at times I really regret the fact because of people who give it a terrible name.
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Yes. Sadly my friend turned into a Hetalia weeaboo shipper. And now I can't talk about the show with her. The fandom seriously needs to get along better and fix the problem of the bad hetalians.
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No. The problem is that most of the idiots and weaboos came from Naruto. We just need to hold it out until they move on to some other fandom. Then maybe those of us who remain can try and work on getting a good name back.
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I am happy that almost all of the hetalians I have met have been awesome and extremely respectful for everything. But hopefully you are right, and this is just like a really long phase in the fandom.
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I really wish I could say the same about that. Sadly I've seen many an idiot and it's made me consider leaving more than once.
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We do have our mature members who I am always happy to speak with, such as you and Annabethcat. But the fandom needs the smarten up A LOT.
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That's really nice to hear considering we haven't even talked to each other for two hours. <3
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Don't leave the fandom cause of the idiots. Our verteran fans are pretty good. Just the people transfering from other fandom a as you said before. They need to learn. A lot. And they aren't listening.
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Well part of it is because this is an ask/roleplay account. I've kind of accepted I'm going to get idiots.
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Haha yes. Mature members do have to deal with the idiots. They don't bother me too much, just when things like this entire argument happen, or too much shipping. That's when they bug me.
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I'm actually pretty lax when it comes down to it. I really fall into a category of 'If you don't shove your pairing/character/whatever' in my face and you don't believe (Character) is (rapist, molestor, pedophile, etc.) then I'll probably be fine. There are still people who piss me off, even when they fit into those categories, but those fall more into the roleplaying spectrum or it doesn't have something to do with Hetalia specifically.
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Sounds reasonable. It's kinda like the saying "you can't pick your family." You can't pick your fandom's members.
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Yup. And they can still piss you off all they want.
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this fandom is filled with idiots... But we do have a small good side too... Idk sometimes people just cant be mature.
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It's the people who are mature and understanding that ultimately keep me here.
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Same... Tumblr is really the only place lately where Hetalia seems to be sane... even then some of /those/ fans are coming there...
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