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Suggestivism
Birth of a New Category or Beginning of the End of Categories?
by techgnotic
Just when you thought there couldn’t possibly be another “ism” on the art world horizon, what with the growing accessibility of all
art technique and technology rendering all the “schools of art” equally available and doable and therefore making impossible the dominance
or even existence of any current art “movement” … comes “suggestivism,” the “ism” best summing up what art is in our lives today, defined
more by what it is not, rather than what it is.
"Suggestivist" art is not slave to any one particular type of current art, from pencils to oils to photo-manipulation. It’s not about technology or technique.
It’s largely apolitical and need not promote any particular “message.” Whether defined by Sadakichi Hartmann (circa. 1900; the first to coin
the term) as simply being a reaction to overly cerebral and insufficiently poetic art in all its forms, from canvases to literature, or by Nathan
Spoor, a current artist and advocate, as a “process” by which the artist lets go of constrictive didactic narratives and dogmatic theories and lets
the will of his or her muse take over so that truly poetic art can be created, whether that art “makes sense” or not. The artist allows the soul of
his deepest artistic intuitions “suggest” what to create, without all the over-thinking. The artist can ponder the “meaning” of the vision produced
later, along with everyone else. The one thing that “suggestivist” artworks have in common is that the viewer is encouraged (compelled!) to imagine
his or her own interpretation of the piece. These artworks generally always have recognizable elements, but the real world ends there, as these
elements are usually then twisted into the impossible conjunctures of mad dream logic. Suggestivist art can sometimes suggest the frightening and
haunting, but usually the emphasis is on the playful and wildly unapologetically creative.
“Suggestivism” is as apolitical as our largely apolitical times, though usually informed with ambiguous political memes and imagery. It is an art
for our times that does not ask to be analyzed and understood, but presents itself as a cipher or puzzle with no correct answer that commands attention
none the less. Or it could be just the latest petulant reaction to a public perception of arts experts talking over our heads in their own secret language about what we should and should not like.
Time will tell.
Perhaps the greatest thing about “suggestivist” art is the very fact that it is so... “suggestive.” It’s the ultimate resource for artists (pop & fine),
musicians, writers, dancers or just dedicated daydreamers who feel a bit blocked. Re-charging the creative batteries only requires you spend a little time
creating your own stories to fit the magical creations and constructions of these works, and one’s own inner engines of fantasy and whimsy will soon be
sweetly humming again.
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1) I feel as though politics would either cloud or bias things so I prefer to much more steer clear of it in art.
2) As of right now, I feel like everything is a jumbled mess of movements. Some never die out, others go quietly, and new ones appear but are never defined. It's always been lik this and out of this chaos comes a distince movement that becomes popular. I am curious as to see if that would happen, and what new style would come about.
3) Personally, I have a dire need to figure things out. I take everything in a picture as a meaning, and so I can often stare at the same work for quite some time. I can certainly like some pieces on the way they look, but I feel the ones with a deeper meaning stay longer in my attention in the space of my mind. Although there is much striving around in there, I can remember a good work or two mainly through what I have interpretted it as.
4)Well as of right now mainly thw work I have is rewrites of songs so I guess that is considered technique. Otherwise I would love to do a lot more work on meaning in literature and also the little bit of drawing I do. Usually, I end up drawing random things, tying it together with a similar theme, and then adding more things to it to emphasize the theme. Usually it is a straightforward message but I am trying to make it more abstract as I go along with new ideas that arise.
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I love this kind of art! I have always loved and appreciated it but I didn't know it was called "Suggestivism".
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1. I think art should be whatever the artist wants it to be. If they have an agenda, or want to bring light to a certain topic, they have the artistic freedom to do so. If you don' want your art political, you don't have to make it so.
2. Honestly, I haven't really noticed or paid attention to that. I view so much art, its just a huge mash up in my head. Of coarse there is the whole idea of digital art, but I am not sure I would necessarily call that a movement. I don't know.
3. A bit of both. I find meaning in a piece not by what the artist intended, but how I interpret it. I always like to hear the meaning the artists intended. A lot of the time I just like art with not much meaning behind it, more for aesthetics.
4. If I have a topic that has inspired me, then I run off of that, but I also focus on technique and aesthetics so I can improve visually. The meaning behind a piece can be brought so far if you are good with both of those things.
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A wholly unnecessary label. The inspiration, drive, motivation, muse, whatever does not define it's classification. Classifications seem to be based on technique, style, and content.
To answer the questions posed:
1. Both. Can't force it to be one or the other.
2. Plagiarism due to ease of access seems to the "movement' dijour. And it's definitely not a good trend.
3. If the artist wants the intent or message known it should either be clearly expressed in the piece or accompany the piece. Without that, it is the viewer's choice to read context into a piece or not. Understanding a piece is also not the same as liking or disliking. You can appreciate something and still not like it for example.
4. Each piece is separate. Some may express something, others may just be for the joy of the process of creation.
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1. There is room for both. Sometimes, art is the best way of spreading a message. Other times, it can just be something nice to look at, with no real meaning needed.
2. Not sure, because movement in art is always going at a relatively slow pace. I imagine there is and always will be movement.
3. If the artist does not state their intentions, I feel like they are trying to tell people to make their own interpretation - whatever they'd like to take from it.
4. I'm very political in a lot of my pieces. Other times, I'm just trying to draw and have fun.
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Oh, hm -- I thought this was covered under surrealism. Thanks for the feature, though, and all the lovelies therein.
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Lol, I thought so as well 
But, I'm not a surrealist, so I'm no judge XD
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To the dictionary!
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1. There is definitely room for both.
2. I'm not really sure. I am not up on current art trends. The main thing I notice is diversification. A few centuries back, it was all about realism. The styles of modern artists vary greatly, which I see as a good thing.
3. It depends. Some art has a clear message, and that message may be key to whether I like it or not. For instance, if art is expressly political, whether I agree with the message will affect my attitude toward the art. Sometimes, I will focus more on other things, though. If the quality is terrible, I may never notice the message. If the quality is extraordinary, I may like the art for that and be less inclined to notice the message.
4. I think my art tends to have some message. Sometimes, perhaps, the message is only apparent to me. I would like to work on my technique, as it is rather lacking at the moment. I am much better at writing than drawing.
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it doesnt sound diferent from expressionism or abstract expressionism.
It sounds like someone drumming up promotion of todays art as if the fall back into realism that hsa occured is new.
the issue of reconfiguring visual space as a form of art would be interesting.
Todays digital art is just photomanipulation on steroids trying to claim or steal from what Matta and the surrealists had to carefuly envision as compared to todays
texture/filter driven blur and smudge and borrow a pallet and match a color with a eyedropper rather than struggle to mix a color.
Go ahead....call Copy and Paste art a movement. The surrealists and expressionists and classical and all those guys in history....can not do what digital artists do in a short few hours
JUST STOP CALLING DIGITAL ART PAINTING!!
there is no paint there....just digital pixels...leave paintings the truth they do have.
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paint is acrylic latex oil watercolor etc
digital is not painting....dont bs artists....i wont claim to be a digital artist....digital shouldnt claim to know what paint is
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Well yeah I shouldn't be someone your arguing with on this matter because I only did a very few oils and acrylics a long time ago BUT trust me, a lot of guys who alternate between traditional and digital will disagree with you. Anyway, to each his own. Good day
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if someone compares my paint to paint its fair
acrylic paint doesnt just undo. I will tell you if i find the save menu on an oil....so far there is none so try to live with your last brushstroke. It might not erase. Thats a huge diference between digi and real paint.
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Well, the definition I always went by is painting = colour in expanses, no matter the medium used. You can paint with chalks, if you like. A drawing is focussed on individual lines. So yes, there is digital painting and digital drawing.
Digital painting is actually rather new to me, and I'm a traditional artist at heart. But I don't really see much difference between using a brush and a tablet (I emulate RL techniques when I do digital stuff using the program MyPaint)... except painting digitally isn't as messy and smelly as the real thing. Less expensive too. That actually was the main factor for my decision to switch. Oh, and that a one-room flat doesn't really have enough storing space for lots of canvas
I hate doing photomanips - I seem to be too stupid to operate the gimp...
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try drawing from life
maybe with an ipad or whatever
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I draw from life a lot, with a regular sketch-pad
ipad? I'm not made out of money, sadly.
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my point is how much the photo really does in alot of the digital art. It is given such credit that the hard work with actual paint is overrated. See daily deviations.
just a few clicks away .....
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Oh, I have lots of issues with how the DDs are chosen, and I think that some genres are severely overrepresented (like three different Anime/manga cuties every effing day, and most selected photographs are naked women).
I actually sort of agree - image manipulation (like filters and stuff) sort of feels like cheating to me (I don't care when others do it, it just feels wrong when I do it).
But not all digital art is like that - if you go to my profile, the first image you'll see is a digital drawing of a Wraith. Every single line on that pic is hand-drawn, and it took me about five hours to complete it. That was pretty hard work.
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here is a painting with no photo, no photoshop, no digital.
This is the result of many studies from life:
[link]
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The result of many studies from life? Uh... I really don't mean to offend you, but I was expecting something, well, different... I mean, I don't even recognize what it is... there's a (anatomically twisted) female (?) nude, and people... but I'm not sure what it's about.
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well, it is a scene depicting GoGo Dancers on stage at a Bar. The customers are around the bar.
The topic is behavior patterns and addictions. Issues like money, sex, addiction to alcohol and all sorts of patterns.
Of course there is the distortion of the partisipants.
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Okay... I feel kinda stupid now
Yes, now it makes perfect sense, right down to the distortion. Well, let's put it down to me never have been in a strip-club before 
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hey...thanks for looking....most people are off being amazed by some copy of a photograph.
this isnt photographic though it may be "Suggestivism" as in this blog by techgnotic
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No, it's not, because it's got a message/theme. If I had to classify your painting, I'd say it was Expressionism. It breaks something down to its bare bones and makes the message/theme clearer. The style is, however, not my cup of tea, neither for looking at, nor for creating art in. I tend to prefer more naturalistic work, I like exploring shapes and textures when I draw or paint. But that's just me - it doesn't mean that I don't respect artists who create different stuff than I like/do.
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I think I'd better understand what the difference between suggestivism and all other art was if you could give me examples of BOTH and tell me what makes some suggestivism and some NOT suggestivism. To me, art is art, and suggestivism is just a title being dropped on top of things that don't very clearly fit in somewhere else... And even then, sometimes it seems like they could be classified as surrealism or some other well known "ism". Frankly, I think the compulsion to label everything is one of man kind's less useful traits.
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This really sounds like surrealism without the prerequisite of having any technical skill.
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1. i think there is room for both.
2. i do not sense any movment in the art.
3. at first i just decide wether i like it or not, but afterwards i also like to discuss the massege with the artist.
4. as a hobbiest writer the message is my primary concern, wether on a emotional or philosophical level, beyond that technique and aestetics are rather limited, but i don't think that's crucial here.
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1. Should art be political or apolitical? Or do you think there’s room enough for both?
-- There's enough room for both. Art is about expression - I can express my beliefs, or I can simply express emotion. Artists should be free to create what they want to (without violating basic rights) and put whatever meaning they want into what they create - be it political or not.
2. Do you sense there being any current “movement” in the arts world today? Is this a good or bad state of things?
-- I wouldn't really wouldn't say there's a 'movement' right now. Artists are creating pieces in a whole bunch of ways, and if there IS a movement, I'd call it a 'freeform' one. People are writing, drawing, crafting, and so on, in their own style. New styles are being created, and older ones revisited. I'd say that this is a good thing - no one is limited by what's popular.
3. Do you try to “figure out” an artist’s intent or message when looking at art, or do you simply decide whether you like or dislike each piece of art?
-- Generally I have an instant like / dislike for a piece. If I dislike something about it, I try not to linger on the intent or message. If I like a piece, then I probably will eventually start thinking about the intent behind the piece, but generally I like to admire art for the art's sake, not necessarily for the message the artist was attempting to convey.
4. In your own art, do you try to transmit any sort of message, or do you concern yourself only with technique and aesthetics?
-- With sketches and such I am more concerned about technique and making sure it all doesn't look horribly disproportionate. With writing I allow myself more freedom, since I've been doing it longer (and am better at it, in my opinion).
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ONE. ART CAN DO W/E THE FUCK IT WANTS TO. NEXT QUESTION.
TWO. THERE WILL ALWAYS MOVEMENTS AND PEOPLE CAN TRY OUT A STYLE FOR AWHILE UNTIL THEY GET BORED. NEXT QUESTION.
THREE. RIDICULOUS. LOVE ALL ART. NEXT QUESTION.
FOUR. BOTH.
GOODBYE.
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this will be an amzing form of art
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Abstract in it's purest forms, using surrealism to make a hidden point, or for the sake of creativity.
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Where is this abstract?
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Monkeys made of fruit and junk? Crazy-looking old men? its everywhere here.
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dictionary.reference.com: "abstract - Fine Arts
a.
of or pertaining to the formal aspect of art, emphasizing lines, colors, generalized or geometrical forms, etc., especially with reference to their relationship to one another.
b.
( often initial capital letter ) pertaining to the nonrepresentational art styles of the 20th century."
Abstract art is art that is just shapes and /or colours, like stuff by Kandinsky ([link] ). As long as you can still recognise things like faces, animals, objects, or whatever it's not abstract.
What you mean is Surrealism.
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My point still stands, I simply confused the different styles
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Uh, and you point was? Your statement was very vague.
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I meant that I've seen stuff like this before and it doesn't really make anything new.
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Ah yes. I definitely agree with that.
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1. I think there would be room enough for both, who is to say one cannot be part of art, because everything is art, whether we like it or not.
2. This is a wonderful movement, gives you new ideas and perspectives on the world and the people within, and we all like to know new people. In the art world today there is a majorly growing population, so yes I believe there is a movement.
3. I do both, I scan along, find something that catches my eye and instantly I start critiquing, I look for a message, or what seems to be a message to me, and for a lot of artworks there are multiple messages you can get.
4. Depends on my mood, sometimes I am trying to scream out a message, but other times I am simply trying to make something that will enhance my skill as an artist.
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I have seen our art before and I just love it XD
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