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Merry Christmas, Olivia!Apologies this was somewhat late on Christmas- my Sta.sh was giving me stomachaches, and I had some diet fiascoes to contend with the night prior.
However, here is the gift for my dearest, loveliest friend and spiritual twin, Olivia, the magnificent !
As she had requested for Christmas 2014, a tender moment shared between Elsa and Hans from Frozen.
To clarify any misgivings surrounding this depiction, please allow me to explain that Olivia pairs these two based on what might have been had not Hans been a vicious sociopath straight from Games of Throne state and stature, or that Elsa might have had a more stable emotional life (granted her parents were more enlightened).
(Olivia, please correct me if I am mistaken in my assumptions! I am bit of a dolt, you know.)
Ironically, Disney (or rather the new style Disney is currently engendering) style proves more diffuclt for me than anime/manga this time around. Deepest apologies for not being able to adhere to the beloved style.
On another note, for some reason, Hans ended up looking slightly like my headcanon Andrei Bolkonsky- it's the uniform, I wager. Being the uniform junkie, I relished and went with a more Napoleonic look, as opposed to the Biedermeier style of the film- apologies for that as well.
Elsa's dress was inspired by what a remakably young Victoria was shown wearing, and the pose and expressions are inspired by one of Olivia's (and mine as well) favorite film, "The Young Victoria".
Regarding the background, I am terribly sorry I failed in not rendering a lush background, but my skills have lagged, dearest Olivia.
GOD BLESS YOU WITH AN INCREDIBLY WONDERFUL CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR, MY DEAREST FRIEND AND SISTER IN CHRIST!
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
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I love their clothes, and your friend Olivia's idea is pretty cool! Alternate Universes are fun to play with.
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Olivia is extremely brilliant! You should definitely check her work out! Also, she is one of the kindest souls ever to grace God's green earth as well.
AUs are a delight- they provide fans with an ample canvas to create a new depth of portrayals of beloved characters.
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I love this so much- you're a fantastic and beautiful artist! I love the look of this, you've done a wonderful job! 
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Thank you ever so much, Cass! Receiving praise from an artist I ardently respect as you are is not only an immense honor, but also elates me to no end. You have truly helped me gained confidence in my art since we have met.
Thank you again! Olivia and I desired to see more of an accurate era fashion-style with the characters' outfits, so we opted for a more royal-court ensemble for Elsa and Hans.
Thanks again, Cass!
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No problem Theresa. 
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Your constructive comments have helped me leaps and bounds improve in my art, and motivate me to continue working on it!
While it is understandable that the practicality and the economic demands that fluid, high-budget animation entail would prevent a more detailed design, some of the designs in Frozen seemed inaccurate. Elsa' s ice dress in particular raised some questions- not on modesty, (somewhat irrelevant), but rather period-wise, the design clashed with the rest of the mixed time setting.
The court is dressed in decidedly Biedermeier era, with hints of a residual Empirical influence.
Hans dresses to the nines in full-blown royal Empirical fashion, while Duke Weaselton and his cronies are decked out in 1850's Hohenzollern regalia.
So, in order to render Olivia's gift more palatable to her (and mine to a degree) fashion sensibilities, a more uniform approach was opted for Elsa and Hans.
(Pardon the rambling on about era fashion- it's a bit of a passion I tend gush on about! :sorry: )
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It is no problem, I am not very well educated in historical fashion, I know enough to say I thoroughly enjoy the design and look. So I found your comment fun and informative- which is always a wonderful experience.
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I AM YELLING THIS IS FLAWLESS OMG THERESA I LOVE IT SO MUCH!!
You certainly have my assumption of that pairing right. What a waste, seriously! What a waste of a very promising character. I mean, sure, it makes his villaindom wickeder and more real, but still… what a waste of a perfect ship. *it’s been a year and I’m still not over this*
Haha, omg I took one look at Hans and I was all “…Andrei?” -- and then I read the artists comments and I had to laugh. Great minds, my dear, great minds… 
Preach! Ugh, I know! You think to yourself, 3D animated Disney: how hard can it be? And then you find out that it can be very hard indeed! TBH, this is a style I have NEVER been able to get the hang of, despite numerous attempts. It’s the eyes, the exaggerated shape of the face. I just can't get them right without them looking buggish. URGH!! But I do notice you’re not entirely out because what you have done is utterly nailed Elsa’s cute little nose, her big eyes and their colouring, and that little floppy fringe bit in Hans’ hair in the Disney 3D style.
And as for the clothes… nonono don’t apologise, you keep going with your Napoleonic look! Hans’ clothes always looked to me somehow more Napoleonic than the rest of the film’s distinct Biedermeier look anyway (what’s up with that?) so technically you’re more accurate to the film to do it this way, and - hey - even if you were not, if it means I get Hans in Bolkonsky’s dress uniform, you will not find me complaining… 
I really didn’t want to ask for it because then I would have been all, “Yeah, I’m tired of the ice dress so no more ice but I kinda do want ice you know what I mean?” and I didn’t want to sound all vague and spoiled bratty but you read my mind (you always do, somehow…) and it is amazing thank you so so much!! Also her hair: it’s still got a bit of that famous look, but its in a more suitable style for a court assembly in that era
As to backgrounds, yea, we kinda both failed at that; we really did leave the asking what we wanted thing far too late this year, lets all be honest here, and we ran out of time.
And her jewellery is gorgeous, and the level of detail in Hans’ uniform is… :faints: Though, hey, really, I shouldn’t have expected anything less from the Queen of Napoleonic Era Military Uniforms. 
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Dearest Olivia, please pardon the nearly month-long reply! I fear the holidays and the initial weeks into the new year have not boded well for my morale and stamina, hence, I was unable to reply fittingly to your ecstatic praise.
Thank you so,so,so, so very much!!
Ye gads! I am absolutely euphoric you are delighted with your gift!
Hans served as the story's primary antagonist- a Janus-faced deceiver of the highest order. In all intentions and purposes, Hans's own predatory, manipulative nature would have served well (or ill, depending his choice of victim or opponent) in the Game of Thrones series.
However, on the other hand, I heartily concur with you that there was a great deal of wasted potential by rendering him the dastardly villain. Still, given the growing cynicism our society is leaning towards, and given how numerous people have employed similar tactics as Hans resorted to, Hans' true character reveal struck me as inevitable.
Ideally, we gravitate towards (well, I must exclude myself here- rugged, gruff men with callous, weather-beaten faces and bearish muscles and "gentle giant" personalities were my ideal) the princely figures. As children, we automatically associate beauty, charm, and elegance with virtue and trustworthiness. But such traits can be feigned- perhaps more easily than other "desirable" traits.
Posing as the ideal prince, Hans' mien impressed me as somewhat disingenuous- furthermore, his own ambitions were made obvious in implications he peppers throughout his conversations with Anna.
Nonetheless, on the points you previously discussed with me, you are correct that the dynamic between Hans and Elsa implied great potential. Unfortunately, altering the storyline to show Hans' redemptive change did not fit in the movie's 80-minute duration. Such are Disney films.
Regarding the artistic aspects, Olivia! God bless you! God bless you a million times for noticing all the intricate details!
Originally, there was a ballroom (or at least a sumptuously furnished Nordic-style drawing room) background planned for your gift, but with the holiday stress and time constraints, I deeply apologize that I was unable to deliver this for you.
However, it is a delight you enjoyed this gift nonetheless!
Exactly! In the movie, Hans' uniform bears a striking resemablance to Andrei Bolkonsky's white cavalry uniform. Why Disney animators chose this design baffles me. If we assume Hans is Danish (given Denmark's various annexed islands- Hans claims he hails from the Southern Isles), then his uniform color combination would have been a bright red (as opposed to the darker shade the British forces employed in their marines and infantry) jacket festooned with green or grey piping and paired with cerulean breeches/pantaloons.
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That said, in maintaining a more historically accurate fashion, Hans' uniform retained its color combination, but other elements were altered and some were added- such as the sash, the piping, and the embroidered cuffs and collar.
Elsa's courtly attire, on the other hand, demanded a more liberal take on her fashion. Perhaps Disney intended Frozen to be more rooted in an alternate world, but her ice dress (now an irritatingly everyday trademark on Disney merchandise) is grossly inaccurate and somewhat impractical for her environment and society.
Having re-watched scenes from "The Young Victoria", the Biedermeier style Victoria espoused in her graceful youth inspired me to replicate a modified version for Elsa, while evoking her icy abilities and ethereal nature.
A choice velvet indigo blue accented by powder blue seemed the most eye-pleasing. Snowflake motifs embroidered in crystalline thread and silver satin inlaid with pearls display her status as well hint to her powers.
As you pointed out, the film's famous dress is lovely, but has become so iconic, it loses its effect.
And the hair! Well, her hair does nod to the film's windswept fringe and braid, but coiffed into a neatly bun pouch.
God bless you for being so lenient regarding the background (or sorry lack thereof)!
Truly? You consider me the queen of Napoleonic uniforms? That is one of the highest honors anyone has bestowed to me! Thank you! Thank you, dearest sister and friend!
God bless and prosper your new year, dearest Olivia!
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Wow, thanks!
No, I totally understand what you're saying, but... DISNEY, man, DISNEY! In any other media, yes, but not Disney, for crying out loud. Because it was Disney I was lulled into a sense of false security based on their previous track record. I mean, did Prince Phillip or Prince Eric also give you the heebie-jeebies? Because they were also stereotypical princes charming??
All I'm saying is, this look me shockingly by surprise, I felt personally affronted by it (probably because I'd been just as suckered as Anna as thus felt as insulted), and - damn girl - you will NEVER be suckered by any smoothie trying the moves on you, wow. You will see through every trick in the book. Teach me!
Yeahhhhhh, I'm definitely glad they Disney team took artistic liberties with the outfits, cause those Danish ones look kind of gaudy next to the white-and-gold one he ended up wearing.
OMG SO. TIRED. OF. THAT. DRESS. It is EVERYWHERE there can be no escape! *clutches head* Basically, you took the movie's clothes and motifs and you improved them (and added some period accuracy!) and for this I thank you so, so much!
Oh honey, you're the UNDISPUTED Queen of Napoleonic Uniforms. No-one knows as much detail and as many different varied, rare and obscure types of unforms as you do!
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Gads! How in the name of jujubes and cherries did I procrastinate replying to you here?
Well, that is thing! Disney is evolving, my dear. Children today are far more cynical, and aware of the dangers this world poses. To have a perfectly upright prince like Hans simply doesn't hold water. Unless he displayed some flaw or human vulnerability, this may have thrown off or detection, but he was far too perfect.
Citing your examples of Eric and Phillip, consider how human they were. Eric stubbornly refused to accept any girl except the one with Ariel's voice, despite the actual person being right with him and attempting adamantly to court him! Phillip's enthusiasm counters the obstinate rigidity of his father's classist ideals. Eric and Phillip are human because they show their flaws, or their less-than-perfect traits.
Hans was far too perfect, too civil, too sweet, too selfless, and too eager- all the signs of a charming sociopath intent on extracting illicit gain from their victims.
Teach you? Gladly, my dear! Life in the hard-hit ghetto side of town , poverty, sociopathic relatives and crude people will teach and age a soul rather quickly. But I can mentor you how to avoid people and situations like Hans and his machinations.
Really? Actually, I am quite smitten with the original Danish uniforms. White uniforms, unless one is Prince Andrei Bolkonsky brooding in the corner until Countess Natasha beams in the room, are not quite appealing to me. But that is just daft ol' me.
Elsa' signature ice dress- if I see that dress one more time, I think I shall scream and tear my hair out.
Yes! Accuracy before everything else! I do wish Disney would consider adding an accurate element in their designs. Even Kristoff's design is sorely inaccurate.
Truly? I am? Obscure Napoleonic uniforms are my passion! Ask me anything about Napoleonic uniforms, dearie! I live for uniforms like Cruella does fur! Albeit, I would never imagine doing anything malicious in the name of uniforms like she does with fur, of course!
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