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Published: 2012-09-16 03:33:49 +0000 UTC; Views: 1454; Favourites: 24; Downloads: 298
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One more for the I.W.W. poster campaign. This one focusing a little more specifically on retail workers. Time to harass wal-mart with this one (mostly for fun, I'm already not allowed in certain wal-marts).The I.W.W. Logo is a trademark of the I.W.W. and to be used for non-commercial use only. These means that this poster is for non-commercial use only.
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There's only one solution: sabotage the production!
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My wife worked at a place where she had no bathroom or other breaks in an eight hour day. I could never get her or any of the other employees at the place to complain to the labour board or even do anything about their lot
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I'm honestly looking forward to the day demands like this, when answered by government decrees, finally force businesses to close. It'll be interesting to see the reactions.
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demands to be given the means to have a basic standard of living? Well, if workers given a fair wage and reasonable benefits is what causes capitalism to collapse, then perhaps capitalism is a really shitty economic system.
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By the way, you can read "Restoring the American Dream" by Robert Ringer (who was once so poor he was living out of a Ryder truck, yet is still a staunch anti-government supporter of capitalism) for a very detailed description on how minimum wage and forced benefits hurt business.
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I'm not worried about business, I'm worried about the working class. I'm concerned because the way business runs, the average person isn't given the means to use their handwork to create themselves success. Instead it requires luck. and you seem to think I give a flying fuck about the government, I'm an anarchist. Without the state, capitalism couldn't exist, because you can't enforce property through purchase without it.
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Where do you think the working class gets the jobs you believe are so important?
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from people needing things that workers produce. Businesses don't just give jobs out of the goodness of their heart. Businesses are just middlemen.
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Fair and reasonable by what code, by what standard? And what do you and your precious workers plan on doing if they kill every business?
And capitalism works just fine (and gives people a good standard of living, not a basic one) when it's left alone and allowed to work, which hasn't happened for decades. I find it amusing you and those like you do everything possible to screw it up and are not only surprised when it doesn't help, but blame they very thing you claim to be trying to kill for the problem.
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when its left alone and allowed to "work" according to classical economic theory, will cause wages to slowly degrade to below the cost of living. The principal is called the iron law of wages. Now, in the food service industry, Sick leave isn't a common thing, I'm sure you don't want sick people handling your food. Having a Sick day, getting paid enough to live with health insurance, those kinds of thins, roughly 25% of the country doesn't get. I know people who work two jobs, in an economy with high unemployment, and still make barely enough to survive. Underemployment is a huge problem too. but your right, the plight of the wealthy is so much worse, we should fuck the poor more to help them.
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Hmm, hard to have a rational discussion with someone who puts words in one's mouth and doesn't listen to an actual word one says.
Oh, this too will probably go in one ear and out the other, but I myself have had to work two jobs to make ends meet, took sick days without pay, and had to get emergency surgery without health insurance (just finished paying off the debt last year), yet I want nothing to do with an economic system that calls for the use of force on others, so save the class warfare gas for someone else.
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It's hard to have a rational discussion with someone who hasn't put for an actual argument. How is the magic of the market just going to fix everything? is there magic fairy dust I'm unaware of?
I don't want anything to do with an economic system that forces me to work for the wealth of a few, but I'm stuck with it. Your begging for the scraps they kick down to us, I want everyone to sit at the table, not just the lucky few.
The markets main motivator is profit, and if businesses can pay workers substandard pay, then they can rake in a bigger profit. It's not just one business trying this, its all of the businesses. All of them are offering the same substandard compensation. The Iron Law of wages, a part of the school of economics in which all others are built upon.
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LR, ignore Sonrogue, he's notorious for picking fights with people he knows will never agree with him simply to stroke his own ego. Sadly, I admit to getting angered by his presence and falling into his baiting little traps before, leave the free market fairy to his delusional little world where businessmen are noble paragons of economic prosperity putting the unwashed masses in their place.
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Sonrogue? Never heard of him.
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I've come across him before on the politics forum. I honestly draw a bit of satisfaction from taking the idiocy he says, and pointing out how stupid it is. I like pulling him into saying that the free market will fix everything because I know he doesn't have the slightest clue on how that will work. Even Adam smith knew that was some grade A bull, Which is why he said that he hoped there was an invisible hand to the market (he didn't say there was, he said he hoped there was because he knew the free market couldn't sustain itself on it's own).
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The difference between you and me is that I don't define "work" by wishes, but by facts.
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???? you define juggling a portfolio and owning property as work. I define work as labor acting upon capital to create value. Classical economic principal by Adam Smith, labor theory of value.
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Considering I don't know the first thing about doing it, yes, I consider it work. If any Tom, Dick or Harry could do it, there'd be a hell of a lot more CEOs than workers, wouldn't there?
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So your saying that not everyone can own property are you? hmm, it's almost like these people who own property can exploit those who only have their skill and labor to offer?
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One day, I'm going to understand how you hold such an absurd view of the world and still get through it everyday. Of course, it doesn't help you never seem to hear a word I say.
And skill and labor are property. They are the property of the individual who has them, and no one but he can decide what they are used for.
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if you really want to know where I get these views of economics, you could read the father of modern economics, Adam Smith. You know, the guy whose economic theories form the basis of pretty much every school of economics. Oh and property is pretty tangible, labor and skill are a bit more abstract. Just sayin'
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Also, like any other person, he was human and capable of making mistakes. His views should also be put into context with other views of economics, especially as they apply to man's individual rights.
And here's this as well:
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see, here's your problem, your simply emphasizing the fact that Ayn rand's theories had no real basis or foundation, and is undeveloped. Even Adam Smith based his theories off of established concepts. That's how human knowledge works, you build off of others. "If i have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants" (Sir Isaac Newton)
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Funny, but Adam Smith was an advocate of laisseze-faire capitalism and rational self-interest, things you don't seem too fond of.
And no one but the person with the labor and skills can decide how they are to be used, correct? Ergo, they are his property. They are also part of the basis for property rights; because it is only his skill and labor that bring something into tangibility, by nature and right, whatever he creates through his skill and labor is his, to do with as he pleases.
Now, before you make a fool of yourself, what happens on a job is he is trading his skills and labor for the money of the person who has hired him through voluntary value for value trade. Also, as the owner of the skill and labor in question, he is free to leave his employer at any time and offer them to another.
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First, if you actually read Adam Smith, he doesn't say there is a guiding invisible hand, he simply says he hopes there is, especially when getting involved in trade with foreign countries. Why you might ask? because he has no faith in the market. Fascinating shit ain't it.
Furthermore, labor and skills are abstract, property is not. That is why Austrian economics (typical of right wing politicians such as Ron Paul) doesn't say you own your labor, it says you own your self. However, this implies that one can be owned, and thus sold into slavery. Thereby further enforcing the concept that capitalists are in fact slave owners.
have fun with that.
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May reality be merciful the day it wakes you up from your absurd view of life.
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I imagine reality looks abnormal from such an abnormal person such as yourself. Seeing as you continue to believe that a combination of party line rhetoric and ad hominem attacks actually prove your point rather than referencing actual factual information to support your argument.
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I give you factual information and you either get it completely wrong or ignore it.
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what factual information? rhetoric isn't fact, its opinion.
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