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Description The opening of Chapter 2 in Skin Deep. 2D making waffles and arguing about the sanitation of his cigarette.

2D belongs to you know who (not me, obviously)
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cheekytosspot [2011-07-25 04:20:32 +0000 UTC]

2D, what has Murdoc always told you about the stove?

"wait fer 'n 'dult?"

That's right.

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Puffle240 [2011-07-24 15:24:20 +0000 UTC]

Great sketch, brilliant expression Although your story creates a powerful image throughout, I still love fan fics with the occasional drawing Can't wait until the next chapter

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TheDorkzilla In reply to Puffle240 [2011-07-24 16:08:29 +0000 UTC]

Thank you. I actually had the Waffles sketch on my computer for a while, just never finished touching it up. I love drawing out small scenes or images in general that coincide with the stories I write.

I wish the newest fan-fic had the same intense quality of the other one, but I am pretty happy with it so far.

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Puffle240 In reply to TheDorkzilla [2011-07-24 16:14:23 +0000 UTC]

No problem Me too, but I sort of gave up on my fan fic temporarily to make way for the pictures XDD

I think that you couldn't do any better than what you've got now! Looking at your other fan fic, yes it contains in- depth detail, carries on a continuous pattern through but so does this one. And if you still think that, then just pick out little parts of it that you love and it should motivate you even further... That's what I did and it worked for me

Keep it up, whatever happens!

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TheDorkzilla In reply to Puffle240 [2011-07-24 16:20:44 +0000 UTC]

The two stories, though related, are also very far apart. Celebrity Skin was meant to be dark and twisted. Particularly towards the end, when you find out just how screwed up the parents really were, even though their actions were pseudo justified.

The current story is more light-hearted, also giving some explanation into why the parents (particularly mom) are the way they are. They're not bad people. They're the way they are because of their childhoods, their lives.

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Puffle240 In reply to TheDorkzilla [2011-07-24 16:24:05 +0000 UTC]

That's very true but no matter what differences they share, you can still relate them in one way or another. I know you've alreday done this on Skin Deep, but the parents in celebrity skin sound fairly similar to Murdocs' background... You're right though... Maybe, instead of linking the two and searching for motivation there, look at someone elses' with a roughly similar story line...

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TheDorkzilla In reply to Puffle240 [2011-07-24 16:48:15 +0000 UTC]

The backgrounds played a part in why they did what they did. They both had come from horrid upbringings and did not want that for the child. When the child was harmed, it unleashed something inside them both.

They had achieved their "normal", something they were always told they would never have. And someone tried to take that from them.

Not sure if I could make it a separate set of characters. Hailey's become rather close to me. I don't share her background, but as a parent, I do understand her desire to protect her child and try to give them the life they deserve.

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Puffle240 In reply to TheDorkzilla [2011-07-24 17:26:22 +0000 UTC]

That's very deep and yet so true... I don't have the experience myself of that sense of protection yet but I keep on wondering how you come up with these backgrounds, like Haileys'? Was it something planned or something off the top of your head?

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TheDorkzilla In reply to Puffle240 [2011-07-24 18:11:14 +0000 UTC]

Sort of planned. The Hailey character evolved over the course of a year. Dabbling into psyche profile, polishing up her full background info, working out how this background would affect her lifestyle and personality (I actually posted her bio here on DA).

As sinister as she seems at the end of Celebrity Skin, she's not really a bad person. Much like Murdoc, she was the product of her environment. Spent her whole life being used, abused, told she would amount to nothing. It was what drove her to obtain what she had and what drove her to adopt the "hit it and quit it" lifestyle. Once the child came into the picture, it awoke something else inside of her and made her realize that the cycle didn't have to repeat itself.

Considering I come from squeaky clean middle class, a lot of people are shocked at the dark nature of my characters.

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Puffle240 In reply to TheDorkzilla [2011-07-25 19:58:01 +0000 UTC]

Did you plan ahead before that year or just one day you wanted to create a character, regardless of what detail you had in mind?

hmmmn... After reading your celebrity skin I assumed she would've been dark with her background but I guess you're right, Alec did bring out some sort of light aspect of her... Even for me after reading the chapter about murdoc explaining that his background wasn't that different from Haileys' I sort of saw the glass half full for her...

I'm not that shocked, just interested and perhaps a little suprised but enjoying your work all the same

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TheDorkzilla In reply to Puffle240 [2011-07-25 20:53:56 +0000 UTC]

Celebrity Skin started as a 55 pg "short story" I wrote May 2010. The original Hailey was pretty paperthin. You knew only a smidgeon of the background (abuse) and that she was a sleep-around who loved the rough kind of bedroom play. I wasn't 100% happy with it and had been slowly working through the character and storyline, adding things, giving the characters a bit more depth and by that fall, had started the official re-write.

Hailey eventually evolved into someone who was beaten and broken within, who put up the charade of "normal" so she could get through life. Hold a job, obtain a small circle of friends, etc. The darkness really only shows in her style of bedroom play and her overzealous desire to protect her child from the horrors that she and his father faced.

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Puffle240 In reply to TheDorkzilla [2011-07-26 15:34:34 +0000 UTC]

I must say, you got her nailed in the end though But despite the lack of background, I still was able to make her out slightly... I know this question may sound utterly stupid but is Murdoc the rough kind of bedroom play type? or does he alternate depending on who he's paired with?

Mnnn... But how many scenes are there in the bedroom? And I think every mother has taht constant fear of upbringing, etc.

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TheDorkzilla In reply to Puffle240 [2011-07-26 15:56:31 +0000 UTC]

Thank you. My greatest fear when it comes to fan-fic writing is making my OC too "Mary Sue", LOL.

As far as Murdoc is concerned, I want to say yes, but to be honest, I'm not a hundred percent sure, LOL. Seems like it, in a way. I suppose an interpretation of his character will vary depending on the individual writer.

As far as bedroom scenes, there is only one that is really in depth and that was their little tryst just after the concert (with poor 2D giving the Cyborg sort of a sex-ed talk, LOL). And as far as the current story, only one as well.

While the sexual nature of the characters plays a part in regards to the story, it is not the primary focus. My bedroom scenes are almost always rather vague in description. Enough for the reader to know what is going on without going into complete pornographic detail, LOL.

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Puffle240 In reply to TheDorkzilla [2011-07-26 18:20:18 +0000 UTC]

XD I think that's everyones' goal. Almost everyones'

Me too... It does, judging by the way he acts towards things and yes... That's very true aswell. Were you going for that approach to him when creating your sequel?

Hehe That may not have been your main aim in the story but it's also a page turner (Man, I have a sick mind). But even without it, I'd still enjoy your work

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TheDorkzilla In reply to Puffle240 [2011-07-26 18:34:21 +0000 UTC]

In a way, I was. The story is a sequel, but it's not at the same time. It's filling in a massive gap in the first story (Hailey's disappearance after the concert). As far as his character goes for my stories, he's just thrilled he found someone who is as into it as he is (there is mention of past assault charges over his dark indulgences). As far as the sequel is concerned, their bedroom antics are "background" (her being preggo slowed things down, obviously, LOL). I may dabble into it a bit more graphically later down the line in a future chapter or two, maybe hint at Alec's foggy memory of walking in on them and not realizing what he was seeing. I have to see where this story takes me and how well I can keep it in sync with Celebrity Skin's account of events.

We can both be sickos . There are a few I am reading from other deviants and that shit is HAWT. I love reading it, just don't write it.

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Puffle240 In reply to TheDorkzilla [2011-07-26 19:07:03 +0000 UTC]

Tres vrai mon ami, and what a disappearance it was... XD And you're right... In Rise of The Ogre (Inner geek moment- plaese excuse me) his finances were... let's just say... Spent unwisely But without a background, the foreground would be boring, am I right, or am i right? I yet again, woudl still enjoy it, but miss it a bit XD And I look forward to when you do drabble... Some of my friends have done that, and screamed whenever referring back to the memory LOL... Hopefully it is going to be foggy enough, because judging by your drawings, Alex is utterly cute I got carried away so much so one time that i dipped in and out of 1st and 3rd person... DELETED DEVITATION, but I know you're clever enough not to do that

Same here! Like 'to hell and back' By ForMyfantasies, and some other random stuff online like 'my days with murdoc'... But I hate to admit it, something tells me i'm starting to like yaoi, and between Murdoc and 2D. NOT GOOD because Murdoc is darn straight, somehow it just keeps on popping up D: and I'm also starting manga, which is one wilderness I do not want to go into...i'm happy with Hewlett! (there should be an icon for that hehe) but I fear I have already entered Now it's a case of getting back out ASAP, right after I look at the twinkling chibi eyes LOL

But yes, i think we both are

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TheDorkzilla In reply to Puffle240 [2011-07-26 19:44:56 +0000 UTC]

Her disappearance was the best scene in the entire book, IMO. Thinking Cyborg was the murdered Noodle, struggling to get out and then the whole drugged thing.....I had a lot of fun writing that part out, particularly Murdoc's thoughts and emotions when he realized all that was happening.

I digress, LOL. Alec is so freakin' NORMAL considering what his parents are like. He really is ignorant to what they're like after he goes to bed. I might place the memory when he is around 2 yrs old or so. Way too young to understand what he was seeing and gullible enough to believe whatever they tell him if he asks.

I have dabbled with 1st and 3rd person. I prefer 3rd person only because it's fun getting into the heads of ALL the characters.

Yaoi is a new genre for me. I had no idea people saw 2D and Muds as a "couple" until I found this site and some fan-fic sites. I will admit I find it a tad disturbing only because both characters seem as straight as straight can be (Muds especially). Interesting in a weird way, but not my cup of tea.

I love all forms of artwork. Manga, western, etc.

Terry Moore is one of my faves, other than Hewlett. Moore's an American comic book artist. Most well known for the series Strangers In Paradise. I ADORED that series. Cried when it finally came to an end (own them all).

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Puffle240 In reply to TheDorkzilla [2011-07-26 19:57:57 +0000 UTC]

i agree... And it must've been fun to write I think the main reason why I enjoy your stories is because it's a mix of my favourite genres, i.e romance, adventure, action, ect. And, you've mixed in some of my favourite characters too. I also love your style of writing and somehow... You can tell whether you've enjoyed it by a hidden enthusiasm behind each sentence...

Please keep him normal! Actually, i take that back... Actually... I don't really know... what plans have you got for his future?

I don't know... I prefer writing in 1st person if the story is going to be revolving around that one peticular character, but I can see why you've chosen 3rd person for your stories...

Looks like we think the same way... I'm kind of exploring stuff about this whole gorillaz couple thing but it isn't working... in my opinion, murdoc and noodle are like father and daughter, murdoc and 2d are like brothers, murdoc and russel are like brothers too, but russel is superior (which is a suprise) ... I also think that noodle and 2d are a cute pairing but a bit of an age difference...

I'm not so sure... It sort of depends on what manga... I'm looking for feedback on my latest piece but I haven't really got any constructive criticism which i absorb like a sponge and use on my next work of art but I hate giving it out... i feel too guilty afterwards...

Terry Moore... I'll check him out... Most things you say are amazing, turn out to be amazing Would you eb so kind as to giving em a link?

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TheDorkzilla In reply to Puffle240 [2011-07-26 20:20:16 +0000 UTC]

Here's the link to the official SiP site: [link]

You can even look it up here on DA, lots of fan art with the characters.

I'm still not sure how far the story will progress. I might add something towards the end, with all their kids as teenagers or adults (including baby sister, Amy). For the most part, I think I will keep him normal, but maybe add some of his dad's arrogance. A little spoiled perhaps.

I agree with you totally about the pairings. Too much of an age gap between Muds and Noodle (i see drunk eccentric uncle). The men are straight, so pairing them just seems odd. 2D and Noodle are the only pairing I see working. The age gap isn't big (12 yrs). Hell, there's almost 11 yrs between Muds and my OC.

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Puffle240 In reply to TheDorkzilla [2011-07-26 20:33:03 +0000 UTC]

He's good... Reminds me of Roy Litchenstein somehow...

Will do

Most film/story writers do that and it has a great effect on the reader, for one reason or another... maybe it's the security that everything is alright, or the hope that another door will open for yet another story. who knows? But it's a clever technique. Making him like murdoc would be inevitable... But in what sense do you mean spoilt? And will Amy be like Hailey?

Mmmn... Hehe, drunk uncle. And it's true... There's loads of edits on gorillaz pictures, some of which are quite funny with speech marks expressing what they feel in that position... The funniest one yet is with Noodle on 2Ds' back in Rockit (despite I love Gorillaz, that song sucks) hehe... And I used to think that but i'm sort of looking at others' opinions at the moment. I think yours is the one that makes the most sense so far. All of the ones I've heard is 'murdoc and 2d all the way!' which aren't that inspiring

But Noodle and 2D seem okay... I just haven't seen too many pictures of them together- together yet, only ones like a hug or a peck on the head... cute innocent stuff (You're probably thinking that in my mind right now I'm going "COME ON, 2D! YOU KNWO YOU WANT TO" LOL, but that's just my sick way of viewing romance- by comparison. Which is bad. i know. ), which is okay, I guess.

But looking back at some of the drawings i did, I really must've been experimenting so much so that it drove me mad... Like in "hooded love" which was metaphorically speaking MurdocxNoodle hiding their true feelings... Nope. Bad idea. but I still like the picture And in 'hug'... :/ Meh.

It's funny to see which drawings stand the test of time. When I first joined i had about 60 gorillaz pics. Now it's narrowed down to about 16.

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TheDorkzilla In reply to Puffle240 [2011-07-26 20:46:51 +0000 UTC]

Alec would be spoiled in the sense that dad never says no to his requests, LOL. So, I suppose that could be more of an inherited Murdoc personality flaw....wants something and either stops at nothing to get it or throws a tantrum.

I haven't quite figured out how I will present the Amy character when the time comes. Physically, I see her taking a bit after mom, but with dad's hair and eye color (and obscenely long tongue). Personality wise, a little more grounded than big brother. Everything will depend on how I introduce the kids at the end (if I go that route).

Art-wise, I've seen some beautifully done 2D/Murdoc pictures, but I like the quality, not the subject, LOL. Does that make sense? And most people don't touch on Noodle/2D, which is odd considering I've found numerous fan-fics with them paired together. I wonder if there is a fear of perceived child abuse, even though she is an adult now.
*and that is me, too....KISS HER KISS HER KISS HER DAMN IT!!!*

The only pairing I deal with is 2D/Noodle, Mudoc/OC and I even have a story series somewhere in my room that gives Russell some much needed OC love

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Puffle240 In reply to TheDorkzilla [2011-07-26 20:59:20 +0000 UTC]

Yup, sounds just like murdoc. I wonder how his career would turn out to be as murdoc inherited that as a rock-star trait, wouldn't you say? his father certainly didn't give him anything, let alone qualities

hmmmn... iT would be funny to see a female- version of murdoc XD But I think you should take that route. And as geeky as this sounds, harry potter did it, and it ended up in endless reviews and fans. But then again, there are plenty of geeks out there

it certainly does make sense, and I totally agree. like :icon*lora8:s' bedroom rockers, or some of 's stuff is cool too. i haven't seen any fan fics of them or drawings... Maybe that's why I'm constantly thinking of possibilities... I think the most likable happening of child abuse would involve murdoc (Sorry, muds, but the truth hurts) in most cases. At one point when I started the gorillaz fandom, i thought Noodle was 33 lOL. And yup, say that bout a lot of romantic things, like even when they're starting to close in onto a kiss, i'm still impatient XD

hmmmn... That's a very good option you took there. AND UPLOAD SOME RUSSELL STUFF BECAUSE ALL THIS TALK OF EVERYONE IN A ROMANTIC WAY IS MAKING HIM SEEM LIKE A SAD PERSON D: I can't imagine Russell making ou-- (nO, no more sick minded thoughts, Hettie)

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BacktoBass In reply to TheDorkzilla [2011-07-26 06:52:56 +0000 UTC]

And for what it's worth, she found her fix in Murdoc

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