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The final moments of the USS Odyssey.
Gotta be honest, seeing this was scary as heck! A Galaxy class ship, basically a copy of the Enterprise-D, being offed in mere minutes...
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Duras sisters: That is a Galaxy-Class Starship, we are no match for them!
Jem'hadar: Hold my Raktajino.
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Indeed! Everybody was like "This could've been the Enterprise!"
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It helped that the Jem Hadar got lucky and hit right where it hurt the most on a Galaxy-class ship, taking out not just the main deflector but a warp nacelle as well, as I recall. Even if it hadn't started a chain reaction that destroyed the ship, it certainly would've crippled her.
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Enterprise would've pulled a trick out of her sleeve.
Or Wesley would've mathed the Jem-hadar into submission XP
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I remember watching this the first time and thinking oh s@$$, if one small ship could do this to a giant galaxy class starship and the jem hadars willingness to commit suicide by ramming their ship into theirs, then Starfleet is in a whole heap of trouble, the Odyssey's crew didn't have time to get to the escape pods
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It was the moment DS9 became serious.
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And the reality hit home
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If I recall correctly, Ira Steven Behr wanted the Enterprise-D in this scene and not the Odyssey, but of course the suits said no. I can see why they did, but it would have been one HELL of a scene.
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Yeah, I remember being shocked by this. One heck of a game-changer for the franchise.
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Well phasing cloak from 'The Pegasus' would be fun in this instance.Β
Jem'Hadar would be like: WTF?Β Β
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In the Lydia-Marie universe the destruction of the USS Odyssey by the Jem Hadar prompted Starfleet to recall all Galaxy Class (32) ships for immediate refit with technology back ported from the new Sovereign, Intrepid and Defiant class ships(ablative armor, bio neural gel packs, heavier phasers and quantum torpedoes, improved shields designed to counter the borg which proved effective against Jem Hadar ships during the war) As well as all Galaxy Class ships built after 2372 (400 built for Dominion War) were mostly Venture Subclass (Dominion War variant) with Phaser banks mounted on the nacelles.Β
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A smart decision.
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Is this theΒ Explorationcruiser Venture Β subclass design she is using; I personally think it is an incredible design.Β Β Β
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So would that mean the Enterprise-D survives the events of Star Trek Generations?
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Yes it does survive Generations. However she needs a complete refit after. The Duras sisters aren't the bad guys in the Lydia-Marie universe that Enterprise encounters. It is Gul Madred and the Cardassians using a souped Keldon class ship. Soran kidnaps Data instead Geordi then he beams to the Cardassian ship after launching the trilithium torpedo at the Armagosa star. To shorten Soran hacks Data with knowledge from working with Dr. Soon back in the day. The Cardassian attack the Enterprise, Wesley Crusher dies, the Cardassian lose after data neural net is reset after being electrocuted. The warp core still breaches but they are able to eject the core however Barclay dies manually ejecting the core saving the ship. The rest is same as the movie except for Kirk surviving.Β
The Enterprise-D takes part in the Dominion War and survives. She is damaged beyond repair by Shinzon and the events of Nemesis. Data dies but returns in B-4 and later commands the Sovereign class Enterprise - E and Picard becomes a Rear Admiral after Nemesis then gets posted as Ambassador to Vulcan on his retirement in 2395. Data commands the Enterprise - E from 2385-2440.
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Watershed moment, Starfleet and for Star Trek
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Indeed!
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A great scene. Shows the overconfidence of Starfleet in the Galaxy class.
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Yeah, it was DS9's "Q Who" moment
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One of the biggest proofs I use as to why I think Starfleet should have kept the battle fleet instead of dismantle it. Also when the Federation was founded it should have reformed Earth's MACO along with its counterparts in the other Federation members into either into at least an arm of Starfleet, call it the Ground Division, like how the USMC is part of the USN. Heck, Starfleet should have had a Starfighter Corps, like the USN has its Air Wing. A starfighter corps alone would have been a godsend in the Dominion War, it would have been something great to have against the swarms of small Jem'Hadar Fighters and a big squadron of Starfleet Fighters could have used swarm tactics to basically shoot the crap out of Jem'Hadar capital ships. "Concentrate all fire on that Jem'Hadar Battleship."
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TNG Starfleet was overconfident. Remember, what came after was the Sovereign, Akira, etc. They've learned their lesson.
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Yes I still remember those words from a certainΒ Fleet Admiral in which he stated:Β "I must protest. To offer the Klingons a safe haven within Federation space is suicide. Klingons would become the alien trash of the galaxy. And if we dismantle the fleet, we'd be defenceless before an aggressive species with a foothold on our territory. The opportunity here is to bring them to their knees. Then we'll be in a far better position to dictate terms."Β Β
Well, Fleet Admiral Cartwright was correct to a degree I donβt agree that the Klingons would be trash, but Β I do agree with one thing he did say,Β aboutΒ dismantling the fleet, they would be defenceless before an aggressive species with a foothold on Federation territory,βΒ And what happened they dismantled the military sections of the fleet, and kept only the exploration and scientific fleets active.Β
With almost the complete loss of the military arm of Starfleet the Federation opened themselves up to attack, the most apparent examples of this is the the Borg invasion, Cardassian border wars, and the Dominion war that followed it, where the former forced the Federation to come to the negotiation table and the latter almost destroyed the Federation all together.Β Β
Fleet Admiral CartwrightΒ is probably rolling over in his grave yelling out I told so; I may have been wrong about the Klingons but was right about everything else.Β Β Β Β
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This moment has not failed! It has shown that the Dominion is really a deadly danger.
Great work from you.
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Thank you very much!
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Galaxy class ships were glass canons until their refit during the war. I think in Lore Reloaded's video on this episode he points out that the Federation are technically the aggressors here.
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The Galaxy class was too big, with a peaceful concept in mind. Starfleet wasn't ready to weaponize them, they were overconfident.
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Glass canons? Enterprise D did just fine against Borg cube in "Q who" and it easily defeated Cardassian Galor warship in "Wounded". Not bad for a glass canon. π
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And yet they got torn apart in the first engagements with the Dominion.
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It was only one ship and the only reason it got destroyed is because Dominion know how to penetrate Starfleet shields and because they preformed kamikaze flight...let's not kid ourselves; the moment in which shields are penetrated is game over for any ship - all you need to do is to beam down photon torpedo on enemy bridge or near warp core and it's all over...
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Good render, but I wonder if the navigational deflector is too narrow compared to the studio model?Β
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Gotta be honest, my Galaxy model is not studio quality.
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The Jem Hadar, thanks to their spies in the Federation, knew the critical weak point of the Galaxy-class design. Once the shields were down, the suicide run that took out the Odyssey sent the perfect message to the Federation.Β
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Yeah, almost like the Duras sisters in Generations.
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