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The adventures of the Discovery continue under her new Captain!
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In Season 2 of Discovery, Pike will take command of the titular ship.
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Yes i know, but i was actually hoping for Saru to continue to be the captain while Pike already commanded the Enterprise
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I gave Discovery a chance, and while I acknowledge there were good ideas and even some good scenes, the overall product is severely lacking. As a Star Trek show, or as a television show in general. I have little interest in the second season when "The Orville" is delivering a better experience.
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And you think Season 1 of TNG was good? Really? Are you sure that your beef with Discovery is actually the fact that you had to PAY for it? Well, you're not getting Picard for free....
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Logical fallacy. You are free to your opinions but not to baseless assertions.Β
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Cool! So stoked about the new season of Star Trek: Discovery. Looking forward to January!
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I can't watch Discovery, I really tried but it's just...ugh. Like SGU or BSG(modern) it takes itself way to seriously. Great model & image of the horrible ship design.
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LOL Thank you.
If you want to watch the funny parts, just check out Cadet Tilly. She's adorkable
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Thank you very much!
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Have you run any studies to show what it would look like with red ramscoops?
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It would look awesome.
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The discovery and the enterprise going their separate ways
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gonna be honest, (and not trying to be rude) I never really liked the design of Discovery, especially considering the era it's supposed to be very close to. it feels more like a post-TNG design, not a slightly pre-TOS design.
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I never liked it either - though not for continuity reasons. I just think it looks like ass.
I'm not a fan of the negative-space saucer or just the balance of the ship. It all just looks awkward and clunky.
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Considering they took an old piece of rejected concept art for the refit Enterprise, and evolved it into Discovery... I'd say they did a pretty good job. Also we do have the issue of lack of canon ship designs of that era to compare to besides one, the Connie.
One thing I like about Discovery is how they fleshed out the Federation fleet a lot more. Could she look better with more Connie style nacelles? Perhaps. But... every ship has its charm and good angles.
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I say it's its own visual continuity. When they designed it, they knew they wanted something different, its own separate visual style.
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i agree- very much like TNG was/
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I disagree for 2 reasons, the nacelles, and phaser hardpoints.
IMO it feels like something that could fit between the TOS Connie and the its refit.
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FYI Captain Pike taking command of the Discovery -- with her being a newer ship and more advanced sensors, as well as with apparently those red signals somehow involves Spock -- makes a LOT more sense than sending Kirk and the Enterprise that Scotty described as being built by monkeys to Nimbus 3, instead of Kirk assuming command of another ship like the Excelsior.Β And why don't they have experienced commanders in the neutral zone?
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Correction to the above, Discovery is an OLDER ship. Look at the Naval Construction Contract (NCC) number, its 1031. Enterprise is 1701, there is 670 numbers, and therefore 670 different ships, separating those two ships. And at the time of the 2250s, the Constitution class was still new (built in 2240s), which would tell me that Discovery is probably from the 2180s or 90s, maybe at the earliest the 2210s. Granted like the rest of the fleet she's been updated with refits and I'm sure when the spore drive went in they did an extensive full yard refit, but even then, she's an older ship.
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Actually the Enterprise is older as the one prisoner from "Context Is For Kings" said the Discovery just came off the assembly line due to the lack of scuff Mark's on the shuttle bay deck. And this was in 2256, and the Enterprise has been around before 2254 especially with Robert April appearance on the animated episode The Counterclock Incident.
Because remember the Constellation had a registry of NCC-1017.
And the USS Shenzhou is NCC-1227 and they were already starting to phase them out in 2249 when Micheal Burnham came aboard.
So why phase out the Walker class yet have what you claim to be an older ship on service?
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That line was spoken as if the ship looked new. In truth I've no doubt Discovery was refit extensively but due to its registration number, is most likely an older ship pulled out of mothballs, since if they lose an old ship at the end of its spaceframe life to a failed experiment, no one will bat an eye, unlike if they lost a Constitution class doing the same. As for the Walker class being phased it, its possible a better ship had or was coming along, and judging by its construction it seems to look at least like an older design.
The Enterprise, if you look on the TOS plague, it says its launch date was 2245, so Enterprise is not that old at all, only 11 years and that's young for a spaceframe. It would go on to serve until the 2290s at least so, not far fetched to say a few Crossfields might be around but, doubtful given its design (how awkwardly bulky it looks) compared to other starships.
As for the Constellation, they had to reuse the numbers off the Enterprise (which had more then one model built) hence the low registry. Common reuse of available materials on a low budget.
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First the Constellation was an ATM model they scorched. Β Hence why it looked that way when it was heading into the robot.
Second budget or no budget, it's still canon.
And if he have to rely on numbers, then the old warhorse Shenzheu was built after the Constellation.
And of course the Europa at NCC-1648.
And let's not talk about the non-canon Ptolemy class that started with NCC-3801, or the Federation class that starts at NCC-2100.
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I'm done debating this
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Don't thank me, I'm done debating cause you are incorrect and I'm not gonna waste anymore talking about it.
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And you still are despite evidence to the contrary.
Do not reply, walk away.
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There is a non-canon explanation scattered throughout various officially published material: Kirk has stepped on some wrong toes during the latter part of the Five-Year Mission and his time as an Admiral. He took out the refitted Enterprise for another tour simply to be out of harm's way (and to protect his crew). Starfleet bigwigs like Cartwright wanted him to fail so they could put him away for good. But, being Kirk, he turned even the worst of odds to a fighting chance to live, such as saving the Earth ffom the Whale Probe. So they gave him a subpar, mothballed ship and sent him to a mission that was impossible. Poor bastards, they didn't know that the man never believed in a no-win scenario
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