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Description I don't even know why I made Starlight Glimmer fanart, I actually kinda hate this character. I also hate how so many historically-challenged MLP fans mistakenly compare her to Adolf Hitler even though she's clearly more of a Joseph Stalin or Mao Zedong. I see that all over the place, people mislabeling Communism as Nazism, it's a pet peeve of mine. Why? Well, because it's jarringly inaccurate. It's like some blockhead in American Revolutionary War garb participating in a Civil War reenactment, not because he's a troll but because he really is that stupid. Or people who lump Medieval, Renaissance, and instrumental Disney cover music into the "Classical" category simply because it's old or was played upon something with keys, not realizing Classical music refers specifically to music made during the Classical period.

Starlight Glimmer isn't a Nazi. The National Socialist party, as far as I'm aware, had no qualms with the class system. They believed different classes separated on the basis of income, education and career would always be a thing. They also believed classism (prejudice against or in favor of people belonging to a particular social class) could not be avoided entirely, but they tried to take the edge off in the way of welfare, finding various ways to make the classes interact with each other more, and ennobling the concept of manual labor to hopefully get rich people and poor people off each others throats.

They did this so Communist groups would have a harder time getting a foothold in German society, since the Bolsheviks' modus operandi was agitating the working class against the bourgeoisie, then setting themselves up as the new ruling class after the ensuing revolution. It was the Communists who wanted to flatten the playing field and eliminate class, not the Nazis. Come on, do you honestly think the Nazis weren't in favor of hierarchy? Honestly. Think hard now. Think really, really hard. Not every authoritarian regime runs on a National Socialist model, Starlight Glimmer and her old posse should more accurately be compared to Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge rather than Hitler and the National Socialist Party.

TL;DR Nazism and Communism are not interchangeable, please turn off the TV and read a history book.
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diaperfart69 [2021-03-27 05:09:20 +0000 UTC]

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strongbad-joe132 [2021-01-20 16:02:10 +0000 UTC]

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Lid-the-Kid [2018-05-02 03:37:15 +0000 UTC]

So pretty! I love that style of soft painted backgrounds with solid color characters (if that's how you say it, heh). ^^

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The-odd-crow [2017-07-07 11:01:26 +0000 UTC]

Your art style is simply lovely!

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MJNSEIFER [2016-11-09 17:21:58 +0000 UTC]

I simply viewed it as an exaggerated version of that phase most of us go through when we want everyone to share our opinions; like when we're younger and wish everyone would love all the movies, songs and whatever that we love and we wouldn't have to deal with fighting over which is better, and just get along with each other -Β it isn't until we grow more mature, we realize what a boring world that would be.

The equalized ponies were a representation of that world; forced into non-existent perfection andΒ seemingly incapable ofΒ disagreeing and having contradicting opinions, but ultimately ponies with little to nothing to them -Β pretty much how the world would be if (most of our) younger selves got the world we wanted, when we had to deal with people seemingly trying to annoy us by saying how much they hated the things we liked or even loved (though they were most likely just stating their opinions, but not being tactful about it).Β 

When we're young (i.e. the actual target age of My Little Pony) it is more likely for us to be set on our own opinions and just wish that everyone else would share said opinions, only to grow up an realize that life like this wouldn't be fun and that we can be friends even when we have different opinions.Β  I've gone through this phase when I was a kid, but see it for what it was now, though I must confess I do sort of fall back into it when it comes to music (simply because I love pretty much all music and I often feel caught in the middle when people are arguing about what music is good - such as people saying that newer music is bad, when I love both old and new music), I don't really want an equalised world or anything, but I sometimes wish I could just like what I like without people thinking that if I like this song I have to hate another one.

So I personally think the whole communism thing in itself is a bit of a reach, and simply think that the true target audience would relate to and basically learn something from.

I hope you didn't mind my long comment.

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julian0123 [2016-11-09 03:05:42 +0000 UTC]

Great picture
And interesting analysis of the character. Not to mention you're right; she always game me more of a communist vibe, what with all the equality philosophy.

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floravola [2016-10-18 18:54:02 +0000 UTC]

I like your designs of them, also the magic effect is well done

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MousseTrap567 [2016-10-13 12:19:10 +0000 UTC]

I've never heard of anyone comparing Starlight Glimmer to Hitler. Everyone I've ever seen has referred to her as Starlight Stalin or the Communist pony. That or Ponified Amon.

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Niiba [2016-10-09 23:08:19 +0000 UTC]

Pics like this remind me of how much I want Spike to someday grow his wings

I'd love an episode where Spike starts going through some weird and embarassing dragon puberty thing, and the Mane6 are all desperate to understand what's happening and help him, causing all sorts of accidents and situations. Then Twilight finally realizes she can now write Ember and asks her about it. Ember tells them Spike is going through "dragon puberty" and magical as it is, it suddenly culminates with him growing tiny wings that he won't shut up about. Obviously Rainbowdash is elated about having yet another flying buddy to train.

God, I so want this to happen in some way or another.

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xLeadMarex In reply to Niiba [2021-08-07 05:39:00 +0000 UTC]

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segurazz930 [2016-10-09 21:58:27 +0000 UTC]

I love communist Nickelodeon and disney nazi, but I hate mlp

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TGOM [2016-10-07 08:09:13 +0000 UTC]

I thought meme about Starlight being a commie was the most popular one. I've never seen anyone comparing her to a nazi...

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Superspicygummybears [2016-10-07 06:11:20 +0000 UTC]

Mlp fanart from you makes me anxious for the day you submit a picture of Sombra or one of the other villains.

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cajobif [2016-10-07 01:46:30 +0000 UTC]

I hope this actually happen in the show. Yes. Weird that you draw a character you hate and ever more put into a cute scene.

Wonderful work

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GlitterStar2000 [2016-10-07 00:54:17 +0000 UTC]

Cute! I love the style

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templar127 [2016-10-06 23:36:19 +0000 UTC]

Daaaaawww! Suu cute!

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Deer-Wings [2016-10-06 12:55:07 +0000 UTC]

I never knew anyone was comparing Starlight to nazism?? I've only seen communism comparisons :c

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Andranis [2016-10-06 03:27:49 +0000 UTC]

Wait, how could anybody even confuse the two? While both are viewed as inherently bad from the general capitalist perspective, that doesn't make them the same.

Plus the Communist government indiscriminately has/had people arrested just for not agreeing with the government(I would say I can't remember ever hearing of the Nazis doing the same, but then my memory's shite). That and boring plain-gray apartment block buildings I tend to call "Communist Apartment Blocks" didn't come from Nazi Germany, they came from Soviet Russia.

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waddewwwe In reply to Andranis [2017-05-30 16:05:34 +0000 UTC]

Because most people are dumb.

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zenitraMsj [2016-10-06 02:02:36 +0000 UTC]

I never saw Starlight Glimmer’s town as Nazi or Communist enclave. It was a religious cult like the Branch Davidians, Heaven's Gate or The Peoples Temple of the Disciples of Christ with her as their divine leader. She was better than Koresh, Applewhite or Jones as she didn’t want to destroy anypony just control them, remove all conflict and unhappiness. A noble idea but always doomed too frailer as it requires the loss of free will and independence. The work here shows she found the happiness she wanted. Sharing herself freely. I like it.

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ApolloSoyuz42 In reply to zenitraMsj [2016-10-07 02:45:01 +0000 UTC]

I second this, The first episode of that two-parter had quite a few (I assume unintentional) parallels to the People's Temple and Jonestown.Β  A government official and their entourage arrives at a isolated vaguely socialist cult of personality in response to a distress call.Β  The cult puts on a pleasant front, but conditions are clearly deteriorating and some members of the cult secretly contact the government official expressing their desire to leave, but are overheard and caught.Β  Thankfully the situation ended better in the episode than in Jonestown, but the similarities struck me immediately as I watched the episode the first time, especially the parts with Starlight shouting commands over a compound-wide loudspeaker.

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DragonStrider [2016-10-06 00:13:38 +0000 UTC]

Yet another soft shelled Canadian. Thank you for you're ignorance

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K-Zlovetch [2016-10-06 00:08:15 +0000 UTC]

Well...

Don't read ONE book about History. But many.
(Che said that too, and not the damn t-shirt icon)

History is only histories...

History with a capital "H", the strict one that is taught in school is but a single version of itself, as evolving and subjective as the men who shaped it and are still in charge of its fate and future.
History doesn't exist, it's only facts, facts reported by someone with a particular point of view, interests and orientation, usually dictated by victors and the ones who had the writing power and the ability to remember.
History doesn't exist, but the stories that create it keep living and shaping it.


And don't interchange USRR Communism and Communism, and Communism and Socialism too.

PS : And of course we can't interchange Communism and Nazism, look at the 4th Indiana Jones : nonsense

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fox-mccloud [2016-10-05 23:58:58 +0000 UTC]

Her town reminded quite a few more of North Korea, as opposed to Nazi Germany or communist Russia, although the Khmer Rouge is fairly accurate, too, having seen The Killing Fields and S-21. But that's irrelevant to the colourful, and pleasant artwork of Starlight sharing the joy of flight with a few friends who normally can't experience such thrills. You did well to include Spike, since he's got a personal friendship with Starlight, and our favourite Rainbow Dash-worshipping chicken. What's also impressive is how you gave Starlight a proper unicorn tail, something a lot of Bronies might overlook or even protest, not knowing how traditional unicorns were built physically, to say nothing of having never seen The Last Unicorn. This one has no reason to hate Starlight, but find her as an unofficial seventh member is debatable. It would've been nice for Sunset Shimmer to leave that horrid human world and go back to being a pretty pony with her magic potential that Starlight appears to have replaced, presence-wise. Still, your Pony art here is fantastic and pleasant eye candy.

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Art-of-Shannon-Lee [2016-10-05 23:58:39 +0000 UTC]

Haha that description XD you're a hell of a character, Crispy.

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DragonStrider [2016-10-05 23:28:59 +0000 UTC]

Well alot of fans love, love, loooooooove to give her the black peaked cap and Hugo Boss and ridding crop (how does that work in pony society exactly?) probably out of fetishistic lust then out of pure stupidity right? Right? Right...? Ooooooh....

Well I guess modern man got to a point when anything nationalistic is just labeled as "Nazi" for convinience sake. I say we take those people, ESPECIALLY those left wing Commie wanna bees ( you know those young 20-somethings living in New York, wearing Che Guevara shirts and pretending like the Communist Manifesto is the book to live by)Β  give them a shovel and drop em in a post Soviet country. In fact, give em to me I will put them to work, my winter firewood still needs stacking and chopping.

And Che fans, go jump in a cold river, PLEEEEEEEEASE

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Claire-Cooper [2016-10-05 23:21:32 +0000 UTC]

People are comparing her to Hitler? Wouldn't be the first time I've heard people comparing a character to Hitler. Once got into a fight with a friend of mine when he compared Kuivra to Hitler.

I don't hate nor love her but there should be what's the word. Should be a certain wall people shouldn't break through.Β 
Nice to see someone bring up this fact though but chances are your going to have those "People who think she's a natzi." on your ass more or less xD

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DragonStrider In reply to Claire-Cooper [2016-10-05 23:24:48 +0000 UTC]

Kuivira was a Hitler trope. And I hope you misspelled Nazi by accident.

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fox-mccloud In reply to DragonStrider [2016-10-06 00:05:59 +0000 UTC]

It's amusing to this one that William Shatner pronounced them "natzis" on multiple occasions, both in the classic Star Trek episode "Patterns of Force", and his role in Judgment at Nuremberg.

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DragonStrider In reply to fox-mccloud [2016-10-06 00:08:17 +0000 UTC]

So did Brad Pitt in Inglorious Basterds but that movie's novelty wears off fast. Now I see another novelty, casting Pitt in mostly WW2 movies. Who the fuck watches those even?

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fox-mccloud In reply to DragonStrider [2016-10-06 00:26:32 +0000 UTC]

This one certainly has never seen any such films with Brad Pitt. Who the frack knows... If you want to see recurring actors in wartime films, go study Anton Diffring and Wolf Kahler. And they're actual German actors.

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DragonStrider In reply to fox-mccloud [2016-10-06 00:31:33 +0000 UTC]

Too bad the only German made WW2 movies are guilt trips. Well there was that one good one. Das Eisernes Kreuz from 1977. Its just a fun movie.

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fox-mccloud In reply to DragonStrider [2016-10-06 00:47:25 +0000 UTC]

This one enjoys the British-American film Where Eagles Dare, since it portrays not all of the German officers as bad people. The principled SS Colonel Paul Kramer is at odds with the intimidating Gestapo agent Major von Hapen, while having a positive relationship with General Rosenmeyer on the interrogation of the captured US general, not wishing to resort to torture or even drugs to force the information out. Sadly, they're all killed by the film's protagonists, as opposed to the original novel, where they're all rendered unconscious.

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DragonStrider In reply to fox-mccloud [2016-10-06 00:49:45 +0000 UTC]

I've seen that years ago. Shame American superiority had to wave its boner in our faces too much.

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fox-mccloud In reply to DragonStrider [2016-10-06 00:57:39 +0000 UTC]

It was more of the British taking the spotlight, since Richard Burton was the lead, with Clint Eastwood being second banana (and one of only two Americans in the entire film.) But this one understands...

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DragonStrider In reply to fox-mccloud [2016-10-06 00:59:56 +0000 UTC]

Russians do that too, though with them I understand it. Germans? Nah, its all a tragedy to them. Oh the poor human soldier drafted in this National Socialistic nightmare trying to preserve his humanity because not all people were bad, only those with Party ID badges.

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Claire-Cooper In reply to DragonStrider [2016-10-05 23:52:35 +0000 UTC]

I don't believe that Kuvira was Hitler in any sense of the word but people are free to there own opinions.Β 
And yes I did misspell it by accident.Β 

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DragonStrider In reply to Claire-Cooper [2016-10-05 23:55:48 +0000 UTC]

She was the proclaimed leader of a war torn and imporvished nation,seeking to remove a absolete monarch in favour of a more nationalistic government, on the road to unite the lands that are ethnicly populated by the Earth Kingdom, she had a high-tech army backing her up, she was called "the Uniter" and she had a big ass fucking canon that was pretty much the Gustav railway gun. Did I mention the robots from Castle Wolfenstein, the snazzy uniforms, the "guards with glowing red eyes and masks". That ain't Hitler enough for you, then you are blind. Oh did we mention the genocidal tendencies towards spirit creatures?

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Claire-Cooper In reply to DragonStrider [2016-10-06 00:00:53 +0000 UTC]

I'm not blind I just have my own opinion. I choose to believe she isn't some mockery towards Hitler just cause you and very few people want to believe that again that's your decision. You can have your opinion but that doesn't mean I have to believe it nor does it mean I have to see it the way you do.

If you don't like my opinion then your free to go off nothing you say will change my outlook on her. If you want to go even further and try to insult me your more then welcome too but again I don't see it and that's pretty much the end of it. I won't go further into this discussion especially on someone else's artwork. That's rude on it's own.

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DragonStrider In reply to Claire-Cooper [2016-10-06 00:04:57 +0000 UTC]

And what is wrong with accepting the truth when it is staring at you in the face?
Love or hate the character I am pretty fucking sure thats what the creators were going for. If you deny it again you are blind, and accepting it wont change your outlook on the series or so I hope. But then again you probably care more for the lesbian shippings that the ending inspired then the political commentary the show had.

Go off on you why? Your own oppinion literally means jack shit to me. I just tryed to give you a little piece of trivia you can go to bed with and reflect upon, you dont want to, whatever stay in the dark.

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Claire-Cooper In reply to DragonStrider [2016-10-06 00:11:37 +0000 UTC]

If my opinion means jack shit to you why should I listen to yours
I choose what I want to believe, you can choose whatever the fuck you like. My choice stands firm if you don't like it again I could care less. The fact that you're going out of your way to insult me shows that it's bugging you that much that I choose not to see Kuvira in the same way you do. Which makes you look rather ridiculous. Β 

You can say anything you want. I ain't denying nothing I'm just seeing it the way I choose too and I choose to see Kuvira in my own way. Whether or not you like it means little to me. I won't waste my time listen to a complete stranger get upset because I don't like nor feel right seeing Kuvira as Hitler. You can mock my "lesbian shippings." all you like that doesn't change anything either at least I don't waste my time faving nudes of women.Β 

Goodbye you've wasted my time enough and insulting me simply because I don't care to see a certain character the way you do is just childish on your part. Goodbye DragonSStrider, it was oh so nice to meet you.Β 

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