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Published: 2018-02-18 13:31:51 +0000 UTC; Views: 22769; Favourites: 264; Downloads: 267
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So, I have been busy these last couple of days creating a little series of coats of arms and flags for a State of the Teutonic Order that survived the 15th and 16th centuries. Even though theses althistory TLs akin to "If this small event turned out different, then X" are a bit simplistic, I realy think that in the case of the Teutonic Knights therte actualy is this one key event, namely the Battle of Grunwald, the decisive battle of the Polish-Lithuanian-Teutonic War. During the Battle, the Teutonic Knights lost most of their leadership and had to retreat to their capital, Marienburg. Even though they managed to defend Marienburg and got away with very litle territorial loss, the combined pressure of them losing their leadership and being forced to pay insane ammounts of money to Poland-Lithuania slowly crushed the Teutonic Order and their State, which crumbled during the following decades. I honestly believe that, had the Knights won at Grunwald, they and their State would have survived the following centuries. So, in this TL (if you can call it that) they basicaly survive and kind of take the part of Prussia in the following history.These two are the coats of arms of the state and their head of state, the High Master. The orders in the national arms are the Teutonic Order of St. George (who was one of the Teutonic Order's patron saints), the Order of the Miracle of Roses (which was a miracle that St. Elizabeth of Hungary performed, another patron saint of the order) and the Order of the Teutonic Cross.
Hope you enjoy!
Credits: Elements taken from wikimedia commons.
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bcrbuio3tvrbvt [2024-06-01 20:54:50 +0000 UTC]
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TiltschMaster In reply to bcrbuio3tvrbvt [2024-06-02 22:39:58 +0000 UTC]
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bcrbuio3tvrbvt In reply to TiltschMaster [2024-06-02 22:44:58 +0000 UTC]
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Lestantes [2023-10-18 09:41:22 +0000 UTC]
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Christopher72601 [2021-12-25 00:11:56 +0000 UTC]
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TiltschMaster In reply to Christopher72601 [2021-12-27 13:28:24 +0000 UTC]
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TiltschMaster In reply to MasterChica1987 [2019-05-17 23:20:23 +0000 UTC]
Deus does indeed vult this
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PrussianWarrior [2018-10-01 18:37:42 +0000 UTC]
Großartige Arbeit! Wirklich wunderschön, die Ästhetik des Deutschen Ordens perfekt hervorgehoben, klasse!
Darf ich fragen woher du die Ketten samt Orden beim großen Wappen hast? Gibt es eine Möglichkeit, die selbst zu erhalten, um sie für eigene Arbeiten zu verwenden? Ich wäre sehr sehr dankbar!
Beste Grüße
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TiltschMaster In reply to PrussianWarrior [2018-10-01 22:02:15 +0000 UTC]
Die hab ich selbst gemacht Kann ich dir, wenn du magst, im Stash hochladen und schicken.
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PrussianWarrior In reply to TiltschMaster [2018-10-02 15:57:21 +0000 UTC]
Wow, super! Da wäre ich dir sehr dankbar für!
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TiltschMaster In reply to Arminius1871 [2018-02-19 15:10:50 +0000 UTC]
Als ob ich je aufhören könnte
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Libra1010 [2018-02-18 13:37:02 +0000 UTC]
I do wonder if the Teutonic Knights could have pulled off a survival on the Order of their peers the Knights Hospitalier; stranger things have happened in History.
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TiltschMaster In reply to Libra1010 [2018-02-18 13:39:28 +0000 UTC]
The loss at Grunwald fucked them for decdes to come. I honestly believe that they could have survived had they won that battle. Theirs state was run efficently, I think they could have pulled it off.
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