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Published: 2012-02-11 14:57:42 +0000 UTC; Views: 4525; Favourites: 12; Downloads: 0
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Description The film Raise the Titanic gave us a glimpse of what could have been possible if Titanic were to be raised from her grave, but the film had a problem. Prior to the wrecks discovery in 1985 it was accepted that the ship sank intact and did not break during the sinking. So for a quick sketch I decided to draw how the real Titanic wreck -or how the bow- would look if it were to be raised.
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AceNos [2014-02-16 03:24:26 +0000 UTC]

if the titanic were to be raised, once she surfaces and after the celebration, this song starts playing: www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq54jb…

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AceNos [2012-07-09 05:17:44 +0000 UTC]

It can't be done, she is too far rusty to be raised, and even (in a spiritual point of view) if they did raise her like that, 15,000 spirits will be dragged kicking and screaming out of heaven.

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TimeLordParadox In reply to AceNos [2012-07-09 09:57:40 +0000 UTC]

Ay, I agree the Titanic should never be raised, its just a concept drawing and anyway, you can always dream lol

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TheNovaBUSFan [2012-06-08 17:42:59 +0000 UTC]

Anyway, those were just facts. Great drawing!

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TimeLordParadox In reply to TheNovaBUSFan [2012-06-16 20:36:40 +0000 UTC]

Thanks

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TheNovaBUSFan [2012-06-08 17:42:33 +0000 UTC]

It wouldn't be possible to raise the wreck in its current state. It would simply fall to pieces while ascending from the bottom.

On top of that, it would make a lot of distant relatives to the victims very angry. It is a grave site for over 1500 people, so...

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TimeLordParadox In reply to TheNovaBUSFan [2012-06-16 20:36:34 +0000 UTC]

Sadly that is true, she is far too gone to raise to the surface. Best leave her were she is and let her die peacefully. Hopefully this Titanic 2 they're thinking of making will keep the spirit of the ship alive after the original is finally gone.

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TheNovaBUSFan In reply to TimeLordParadox [2012-06-17 14:57:11 +0000 UTC]

Yeah.

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LadyXanax23 [2012-02-14 16:06:57 +0000 UTC]

i believe trying to raise the titanic is like digging up a body in a grave. it just means great disrespect for the dead. person or ship, its the same. may we remember the lost souls who did die on that fateful night 100 years ago!

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TimeLordParadox In reply to LadyXanax23 [2012-02-14 19:09:42 +0000 UTC]

I never said the ship should or even could be raised, the picture only depicts what the scene might look like if she could. I am in two minds about raising it because on the one hand I know its a grave yard and it should be respected, but at the same time I think it's sad that the ship itself is slowly being eaten away by bacteria and very soon the Titanic will be no more then a stain on the Altantic floor.

In some respects I'd think it would be a greater memorial to all those lost if the Titanic, the real headstone of those lost, were to be preserved.

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germanname1990 [2012-02-11 17:14:11 +0000 UTC]

You know, people say that ships sink in one piece; that's the way ships sink. Well, there have been many shipwrecks between the time she sank and when she was discovered, which should've let even one person think that Jack Thayer was probably right. Here's a list of shipwrecks I know. Please let me know if you know any others between the timeframe.

Caronia (she broke in three pieces, and I heard that Titanic broke in three pieces as well)
Edmund Fitzgerald (wreck in a T formation with the stern [making the horizontal part of the T] upside-down)
Bismarck (the battleship; I read that a small piece of the stern broke off)
Many U.S. Liberty Ships (they would break in two all by themselves, very frightening)

Now I read in another book that if you tried to move the Titanic's stern, even a bit, it would disintegrate. The bow's got more of a chance.

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TimeLordParadox In reply to germanname1990 [2012-02-11 19:04:25 +0000 UTC]

Plenty of Titanic survivors did say she split as she sank, it's just that the majority version won out. Plus some say some of the officers were bribed by White Star to keep quiet about it breaking up, Titanic was supposed to be the safest ship afloat and it would be bad for buisness if the press made it turn out that the hulls of the other ships (Olympic and Britannic) were very flimsy.

Jack Thayer discribed it breaking in two but the person in charge of illustrating what he said ballsed it up. The pictures showed Titanics bow breaking off and rising back to the surface before going under again. What Thayer probably ment was the Grand Staircase breaking loose and ripping itself out of the ship (It was only held down by gravity, nothing to stop water from lifting it up and tearing it appart.) Because of that one illustration mistake no one took him seriously.

Yeah, Titanic actually broke into three pieces, an entire mid section and a slice of the keel would be missing if you tried to conjoin the two sections together.

The stern is in a really bad shape, but sadly the bow would never survive the trip back to the surface either. The rusticles eating her as we speak prefer the rivets holding the ship together more then the steal itself so they are far more corroded. If they tried to raise raise her the forces involved will probably rip her to shreds

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germanname1990 In reply to TimeLordParadox [2012-02-11 19:50:58 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I had a feeling that White Star line felt that if the ship really did break apart, and this info made it to the public, they'd be out of business much quicker than they actually did.

And there's no doubt that the bow section would never have pointed to the stars the way it did in the illustration. I couldn't believe that was compelling enough for almost no one to believe him.

I can imagine you're right about the bow section being raised. After all, I've seen Marschall's 1995 and 2005 paintings of the Andres Doria, and so much has happened to her wreck within a decade period. My mother was stunned when I showed her both paintings to compare them.

And I'll tell you that I never got to meet a Titanic survivor, and I may probably never get to see the wreck itself before it eventually collapses on itself, but at least I got to see a piece of the hull at a Titanic exhibit a few years ago. Did you see the piece?

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TimeLordParadox In reply to germanname1990 [2012-02-11 19:59:29 +0000 UTC]

No I've never seen the section of hull they raised. I saw it when they raised it on a documentery but I've never seen the thing with my own eyes. Where's it currently kept, I'll have to go there.

I imagine the only way to raise the Titanic would be to cut her into pieces or collect them as they slowly drop off.

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germanname1990 In reply to TimeLordParadox [2012-02-11 22:32:57 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I think that's the only way she'll be raised at this point. But, maybe they'll piece her hull back together and if we're lucky, maybe, just maybe, they'll even make her something we could go inside again - an experience that not even the Titanic museum in Branson, Missouri (a U.S. city) could offer!

Part of the reason why I think this way is because they raised pieces of TWA Flight 800 and Pan Am Flight 103 and put them back together. I know we may have to wait a long while for the Titanic wreck to collapse for us to raise and piece back together. The other is that I believe in technology letting us recreate her insides and let us wander safely without having her hull fall apart again.

I know what I'm saying may sound radical, but it could happen! The first thing to do is believe.

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TimeLordParadox In reply to germanname1990 [2012-02-11 23:21:39 +0000 UTC]

Raising her like that might be possible but would cost a tone of money to constantly go down and keep raising bits of her.

It probably would be cheaper to just build a complete replica of her.

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germanname1990 In reply to TimeLordParadox [2012-02-12 01:31:41 +0000 UTC]

You have a point there, I'll say, but maybe in the future, it may get less expensive.

If you remember the Univac, a computer so big (as well as pricey) it was its own room. One day, an employee told his coworkers that computers will be so small that they will fit on a desk. They looked at him like he was crazy. Sure enough, we have computers that not only fit on someone's desk, but also someone's lap, and even someone's hand, and they're much less expensive. That guy was more right than he could bargain for.

I'm sure the same will apply to Titanic someday, even the price. We're living in a world where things exist now that back then would have been impossible. So, I can't give up on this.

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TimeLordParadox In reply to germanname1990 [2012-02-13 14:20:49 +0000 UTC]

Oh well, you can always dream. Maybe they'll find a way to raise her before she becomes nothing but a brown stain on the ocean floor, but I'm not holding my breath. I don't think the Titanic has the time for the technology to get cheaper.

Luckily though her propellers and some other parts of her will survive for much longer because they're made of brass which ruscticles hate.

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KaneTakerfan701 [2012-02-11 15:24:45 +0000 UTC]

AWESOME!

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TimeLordParadox In reply to KaneTakerfan701 [2012-02-16 19:25:17 +0000 UTC]

Too bad it's just a picture

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KaneTakerfan701 In reply to TimeLordParadox [2012-02-16 20:44:58 +0000 UTC]

well you did a great job in making it as if it did happen.

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