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Published: 2014-10-08 16:28:44 +0000 UTC; Views: 13485; Favourites: 387; Downloads: 162
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.. I really don't know why.. but when I was in the middle of this, I suddenly lost my passion..ah well.. it's better than nothing, so I put this up.. or maybe is it better nothing than an unfinished task..?
anyway.. I'll draw something else later..
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Wow.. this is why I assumed you didn't really get what I was saying..
Up until now you are still talking about this unfinished drawing and that I've lost my passion in this. Well, when I said that I've "lost my passion in this", I meant I'd rather create a new drawing than continue this drawing.. but instead of deleting it, I decided to post it up here on deviantArt..!
The previous comment I made, about imagination and reality.. I was not talking about this unfinished drawing of mine, I was talking about hyperreality, and I'm sure you know what it is.
So in conclusions, I think this is just a big misunderstanding. Or maybe you have something else in mind?
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yes, i know. I was saying if was a good painting even unfinished and how i saw it despite how it happened and how it looks...Β
You are the one who doesn't get it. I am beginning to think you won't either. Thats fine, you don't have to get it or understand it even, just accept it. I don't agree with you, but yes i get it. I was young once. Used to draw anime characters out the wazoo and a couple times it was the unfinished drawings people liked the most because of the sense of mystery or some color combination i didn't realize made the picture pop to others before. I couldn't see more than what i saw, which was that it was unfinished and therefore not adequate to myself. Don't you dare tell me i don't get it merely because i don't agree with you and have my own way of looking at it. Its bad habit to tell people they don't understand just because they don't agree with you. I understand completely and have even been on your side before, but hun... getting it doesn't mean im going to agree with you. It never means that. You can understand another persons side or opinion and even accept that is how they look at things and still not agree with them.Β
I'm looking at this as an art lover looking at a picture.Β
Then be clearer about what 'reality' your talking about hun, because their is reality and then their is fantasy. These characters come from a fantasy world, one that doesn't truly exist outside of peoples hearts and imaginations, outside of a show or the fan fictions, fan arts, and many creations of both fans and creators of the series. Maybe some people imagine and so in some way its in their minds too... but in the end thats still not reality. Imagining something doesn't make it real anywhere accept inside your own heart, drawing it makes the drawing real not the subject. What part of that is 'reality' to you?
Hun, its not a hyperreality. Hyperreality refers to an inability to distinguish reality from fantasy and it doesn't refer to a painting, its referring to people, a mind set of humans or a lot of humans in a 'mass culture reproduction' as it is called. It in no way shape or form is a form of reality in any way that makes it justifiable for you to use this here. Also, what is that supposed to mean, even back when i was a child i mostly drew my mom or made anime versions of real people for fun. That line between reality and fiction on a mass scale. Some examples are harmless and some are not.Β
Misunderstanding... indeed. Not how you seem to think it is though. Please continue to try and call me crazy for having a different view from you because im sure it makes you feel so smart to use such insinuations when in reality that IS an example in of itself of hyperreality. Don't mess with someone who studies for the fun of it, especially someone who has been studying sociology.Β
-Luna Β
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Yep, I wasn't talking about my unfinished drawing. Or any unfinished drawings out there. Didn't complain about it either.
So what is there to agree or not to agree?
What I said is "Well, talking about imagination, we are now living in the age where technology has advanced rapidly it has broken the boundary between reality and imagination.. It may not be easy to turn your imagination into reality, but it sure is possible..!"
And by that I was talking about how technology can set up a simulation environment so advanced that it feels real.. still with limitation, of course..! It's the experience I was talking about..! And I also showed hopes and dreams, that maybe somewhere in the future, we can really turn imagination into reality..! Some wild and crazy delusions, I admit..!
And then You suddenly talking about worldview.. that's interesting.. but then you stated that "The fact that you have given up on hopes and dreams or believing people have anything left to learn or do that they have not done or learned yet..."
This is what really made me confused..! I never said and/or implied any of that in any of my comments.. Really, have I said and/or implied that I've given up hopes and dreams, or that humans have achieved everything and have nothing left to discover..? I mean, really..? Wow..
Oh and maybe I should really point this out, that this right here is what I'm arguing for. I don't know what statement I may or may not have made that made you think I've given up hopes and dreams or that I believe humans have achieved everything and have nothing left to discover, but you've drawn a conclusion that I have. That's why I'm denying it so very much, and that is where our argument began.
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you said it, that their was nothing left for humans to do, not me.
Don't twist my words back as if their was nothing to base my own personal take on what YOU said is a crime. Its not like we are in court and its not like you clarified. In fact you have been quick to insult me more than once in a manner that is not outright name-calling but more insinuation such as about how i would know ALL ABOUT hyperreality. That is an old trick to subtly insinuate someone knows about something because its part of their lives as in... insinuating in this instance that im just a crazy person because you don't' want to be anything but 100% right or simply think that anyone you don't completely understand or agree with is crazy Trying to insult me 'smartly' didn't make you look so smart either. Don't do that, i got that enough in high school and from some really immature bitchy adults who never grew the hell up. Your exactly the type of person who does exactly what your accusing me of. Accept you don't even know the definitions of half of what you say or even what it means in its entirety. I do.Β
The world sucks enough as it is, try not to be purposefully mean to people like you seem to jump into being so easily.Β
you did imply it, i simply said it a different way. Same thing a different way. Same thing, same concepts. just not using the same words. You said humanity had nothing left to do. Then you re stated that with completely different words and meanings, changing everything you said completely, i don't think you understand even half of what you even say.Β
For future reference, if you don't want people to draw conclusions about your character, then keep in mind the way you are talking to people and interacting with them.Β
Your very combative and if your not a teenager you must be a social worker... unless your a rare acception, Ive hardly ever met any acceptions to that rule. It tends to give people the attitude that their own perception is more important than anyone else's.Β
You opened up a can of worms by starting this, now you want to say your right even using anything you can after your 'clarification' which had nothing to do whatsoever with what you said. It was like pulling a gun on someone and saying it was a joke, the two have nothing to do with one another in any language or culture i know of, nor did those words even have an abstract connection in some obscene or twisted way, accept to you. As far as that goes, thats the only connection they have... which disturbs me because most people don't speak so presumptuously and have respect for other human beings which inspires respect in return. Ive death with people like you, maybe they were worse because no matter how many times you explain what something means it goes in one ear and out the other. I get enough word games being an advocate and from other people who claim to be advocates sometimes and other avenues alike, i really don't need it here. Oh but to you that won't look at all like its meant will it, since your so combative and since i thwarted your more 'subtle' attack which wasn't so subtle as you might have thought it was(actually that sort of thing is obvious and im more insulted by your lack of ability to think before you speak and know what your talking about than by the insult itself, what? was i not supposed to know what that meant? The insinuation? I get enough of holding my tongue off-line.Β
Let me guess, your going to play the same angle like an overgrown child with no other examples of how to conduct yourself even though the world is full of them.Β
Here is my suggestion. You don't talk to me anymore and i don't talk to you, and we leave one another alone. Since you can do nothing else but nit pick everything and try to start a fight but then act like a catty teenage girl who looks for the answer she wants to find rather than looks for the truth. you have the critical thinking of a catty teenage girl who might write someones name in lip stick on the mirror because they didn't win a petty argument they started to begin with and got mad because they didn't win the petty argument so they want to destroy someones else's life yet they themselves don't perceive it as destroying the other person because not once does the damage or how it feels cross their minds, just that they want to hurt that person or 'fix' them in the worst of them. Its worse when they convince themselves they aren't hurting you. Anyway, if your not a teenager this will come off as an insult, so i hope your a teenager and i hope you straighten up and fly straight long before your an adult.Β
"And then You suddenly talking aboutΒ world-view.. that's interesting.. but then you stated thatΒ "The fact that you have given up on hopes and dreams or believing people have anything left to learn or do that they have not done or learned yet..."
This is what really made me confused..! I never said and/or implied any of that in any of my comments.. Really, have I said and/or implied that I've given up hopes and dreams, or that humans have achieved everything and have nothing left to discover..? I mean, really..? Wow.." Don't you dare because saying humans have nothing left to do andΒ insinuatingΒ their IS nothing left... thats not true and the words i said... they mean the same thing. When their is nothing left their are no dreams, no hopes for the future, and i know first hand their are a lot of things left to be done always, and also so many things humans have yet to accomplish and some of them people are working very hard TO accomplish. Doing, if their is nothing left to do their is nothing left to learn. I am tired of justifying myself to you.Β
Don't reply to me anymore unless you want to act like an adult. I won't apply back, not to give you some twisted sense of win, but because their is simply no point. Your incapable of a mature adult conversation. Even as a teen i was capable of mature adult conversations, often it was expected of me much sooner. Its possible even for a teenager to not be so... infuriating. If your not going to look at something as it is without inserting your own meaning into everything... well lets just say some people need to learn to look at things with raw facts before they attempt to put their own two cents in, but they don't. Please learn to be a better human being than that because even if you don't think so, that ends up hurting people and often enough destroying them and others they love in the process. People like that are more prone to believing they have rights over others for some inherent reason or because a job gives them some sort of power. Eventually even if they mean well in the beginning they become the worst of humanity justifying the most vile of vile actions with anything they can get away with, and eventually if they weren't already ugly people on the inside, they become it. I don't presume to know your life or what you do, but i will say this. If you don't, you will. be aware and face it and work not to, and you could still be one of the best damn people out their.Β
By all that is holy though... don't look for meanings that don't exist and if their is something you simply don't mean a certain way... say so but don't use something someone replied to it before you clarified to argue... that is just arguing to argue, generally a piss poor way to do anything.
-Luna Β
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I can't "act" like an adult because I don't think I'm one, yes I am a teenager, but what I really want to know is what exactly did I say that implied humanity had nothing left to do? can you put my exact words? I really really want to know, if you're still going to reply that is. And maybe you can break down every sentence you have and I've written previously and explain it one by one.
Anyway even if You did leave me I wouldn't think I've won, because you left me confused here. I don't know about 'seeking answers one wants to find rather than looks for the truth'.. but you have your truth, I have mine, everyone else has theirs, and that doesn't matter.. what matters is when someone forces their own truth onto others. I don't think You're only justifying yourself to me; you're also describing me, as a sociologist you are, you're the one who has the power and authority to describe others based on what you think. Oh yeah, how about we take this as your "win" then? You're the adult one, the educated one, the experienced one, as I've only been living in this world not even quarter a century yet. Yeah I'll take your words though.
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fan-fic's are starting everypo- I mean everybody run
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Everyone's running, fanfics start!
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*Runs like a barbarian in the roman impire
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Of course they are..! Yaay..!
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It sure is!
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Aww, how cute. It's good to see that Sunset Shimmer has finally reformed. ^_^
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yep, Sunset Shimmer of Canterlot High sure has been reformed..!
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omg, this is very very cute. and the face of sunset is like "well,Β ok"
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Yep, the face says it all!
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Sunset: *Wipes the frosting off of Fluttershy.*
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Are you.. talking about a bird.. kind of?
pff I'm joking..! Thanks!
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Naw don't be a fool, Jackie..! Find out every detail before you set sail..!
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The reference And the person making it.
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Hum.. the reference is On Stranger Tides.. but who's the person making it..? the director, or the writer..?
Ahahahaha..!
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That depends which one are you?
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Hum.. I don't really know..
Oh, I'm an audience..!
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Members that is.
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Ah yes, quite..!
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That is just too sweet. Very lovable.
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They are sweet and lovable..!
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Ehehe.. thanks..!
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I can't get enough of the way you draw Sunny with the glasses. To the fav's this one goes, with the others.
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Why, thank you very much..!
And I quite like your vector drawing of Rarity with Dazzlings' pose.. it somehow fits her.. attitude and pizzazz.. haa~..!
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Thanks as well - that was my first try with using Inkscape for vectoring. I think another human Rari will end up being my next post here (Shimmering Strings no.3 
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Ah, that's awesome..! Good luck..!
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Sunset Shimmer, My heart you have stolenΒ
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Sunny S. Shimmer: No.. it's not me.. your heart has been stolen by the Sunset Shimmer of Canterlot High..
pff-.. I'm kidding..!
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hahaha but nice Work there
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You'll always be cute Sunset <3
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She always is..!
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Humm.. nah..!
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