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this stamp looks cool because its pixel comic sans and its anti frisk x sans so in conclusion i am cryign have an nice dayedit: arguing with me isnt going to change my opinion!!!!!! you fools!!!!! you ignorant fools dont argue with me becase goku (my dad) is on the fphone with me right now as we speak and hes coming to kick all of youre asses so shut the FUCK off and leave me olone
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I'm only okay with Frans if Frisk is depicted as being 18 or over.
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undertale shipping is basically dead so every ship fucking sucks imo
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It honestly depends on whatever ages people headcanon to them to determine if it's pedophilia. Maybe someone sees that Sans and Frisk are both adults and are of similar age, however I see Frisk as a child and Sans as an adult and the ship creeps me out 0_0
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Frans forever <3 That's my opinion. You can't exactly say whether it's pedophilia or not because nobody tells you Sans' age. //shrug
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actually toby fox officialy said that sans is 18 aka an adult and frisk is a child
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i'm not going to go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in toby's years old tweets!
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As the saying goes, "pics or it didn't happen" but in this case, links.
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I agree 100% and Frans creeps me out
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Yea I dislike the couple. It's because that it's weird that a HUMAN CHILD is dating an ADULT SKELETON who only loves ketchup and his younger brother
(and possibly Toriel)
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Once me and my ex friend were talking about Undertale.
He admitted that he ships Frisk x Sans.
I asked why.
He went on a tangent about how frisk is AT LEAST 15 so it's not a creepy.
I asked him if he even payed attention while he was playing the game,
because Frisk is constantly referred as a kid through out the game.
"How do you now that Frisk is a kid? They could just be calling her kid?!"
I fucking love this stamp
(btw I didn't stop being friends with them because they ship Frisk x Sans, I stopped being friends with them for other reasons.)
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who would ship a skeleton maybe a hundred years old (since he can control time) and a child who is probably 7 years old
like w h y
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how could sans be 100s of years old
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idek
but he isnt a teenager or 7 years old thats for sure
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he can't be more than 13 so I agree that frans is a pedoship
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what..he cant
be more than
13
??????????????????
13 and 7 yr old isnt pedo
its just gross and
sans is like
really old
he some old ass bones
wtf r u on about mate
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"BAWW BUT WHAT IF U AGE THEM UPPP"
You still saw a confirmed minor + an adult, interpreted it as romantic and shipped the two. You're wanting a minor who doesn't know better to be in a relationship romantically and sexually with a fuckin. ADULT
Aging them up is trying to slap some sticker on it as an excuse for it to not be pedophilia. You're literally just trying to find your way around it so you don't seem like the bad guy.
Besides, Sans in canon doesn't like Frisk that much. He even says in the game that if he didn't promise Toriel, you'd already be dead. Clearly showing he doesn't like you. The only way he'd like frisk even platonically is if you did pacifist route. I doubt they'd even be in a relationship even if Frisk WASN'T a minor.
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to be fair tho Sans said he was joking after that so.
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Given how he usually jokes around even in genocide, that can be really iffy.
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Why can't you care for actual children, by raising awareness that shipping and other weird pictures should have age restrictions so kids and vulnerable people can't see it. Instead of applying real life rules on a bunch of pixels of a skeleton and brock wearing a jumper that some shipping war tumblr user used because they wanted Klance to be the true otp.
Seriously, the overuse of this topic is down right triggering for vulnerable people and not a healthy environment for kids, and we're in fandoms for games and cartoons.
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I....do care for actual children?
I tend to raise awareness on how dangerous these shippings are and how they at least need some form of restriction and I often argue on people drawing things that children see easily. Never said I didn't and I'm honestly incredibly confused where this is coming from.
The reason I argue about these shippings as well is because I'm literally an abuse survivor and someone who's been manipulated by a pedophile before.
This stuff hits close to home for me. That's why I argue on it.
I'm honestly confused on what you're saying? Not being rude at all, I'm sorry if I sound like that, but I really don't get what you're trying to say.
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That's good and I already believed you do, otherwise you wouldn't be trying to raise awareness for children's safety. Shipping is hardly dangerous, any professional psychologist will say exploring aspects of the psyche through drawing or writing is a healthy way to go about things, because you're learning about the world without harming people. Yes, they need age restrictions and appropriate filtering tags for those who don't want to see the content. It's honestly the best way to tackle the issue. Going after real people who draw this is kind of ridiculous. Someone tried to give a fan artist at a convention cookies with needles for drawing Frisk and Sans for example.
I also understand that unfortunately, and you don't need to explain yourself to me, mostly because there's awful people on the internet, so it's best to disclose personal info to only those you trust. The point is comparing drawings to that act is demeaning and talking about the topic like this all the time where it doesn't apply could desensitise people about a serious issue who don't understand it, and create negative consequences for those who have experienced it. Which is my concern with fandom communities. What you are probably experiencing is the PTSD response by association, and I've been there too. That's why it's best not to get on the discourse wagon, the ride doesn't end because gradually you'll start to link up a lot things to the experience and it can make life distressing.
You're not being rude at all, please don't feel like you have to apologize to me. I just know the roots of what you're talking about and it was dumb shipping fights on tumblr and twitter, but talking about those topics can trigger and even bring out repressed memories for people. Many social media websites have also caused minors to believe they're non-offenders because of their crushes and join MAP's, I wish I was joking. I know your intentions are good, but there's been no positive outcome, all we do instead is talk about dark subjects when we could be doing something we can look back on smile about.
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I see where you're coming from for the most part, yeah.
I personally disagree (somewhat) with using shippings and stuff as coping mechanisms. Often a lot of the times, and even through experiences with people i used to consider friends, it ends up being more normalized and taken light of. And there's many instances where fiction affects reality in some way, shape or form. Hence why we develop attachments to characters, why we get angry by shows and character decisions, its why we like shipping things, etc. Because despite it not being real, it affects us for how it reflects reality. Not saying that Fiction = reality (it really doesn't) but the two affect each other in different aspects. And even if someone were to use it as a coping mechanism, like you said it should be tagged and hidden. But also, some people do it without professional suggestion. And I don't necessarily think that's good because depending on what you're expressing and how you're expressing it a professional can either condone it or condemn it and in general its just best to see what's healthiest for you from someone who knows how mindsets work.
dark topics are a really difficult thing to discuss in general. Because whether you talk about it too much or too little, it gets normalized. Being aggressive towards someone causes them to be more likely to rebel against those things. And at the same time, not doing much and not talking about how these things are bad makes people believe "hey, this hasn't been talked about so it seems okay". I'll personally rant about these things and say how they're bad, but I'm not going to be super pushy with it.
Speaking of which, I don't really support people who choose to harass others for these shippings. As much as I dislike and am highly against shippings that romanticize serious topics, the most you should really do is notify the person if they aren't aware it's unhealthy and how it can affect others (especially when it comes to children). Full on harassing someone and sending death threats (especially by ship war) is immature, and is unnecessary. It solves nothing, and causes even more people to turn on you.
And with the part of non-offenders. That's a big agreement. I always feel annoyed seeing people say that these minors are evil or whatever for shipping something problematic. Especially going to the point of harassing others for it. I'm very tired of seeing people saying they care for minors only to harass those who are more likely to side with MAPs out of being treated poorly.
In general, I kinda just feel like there has to be some balance for that? Because while most of it is very problematic, given cookies with needles and suicide baiting minors is few of the many awful lengths people will go to for their hate of problematic things. They have every right to be upset at these things due to the dark topics, but no one should ever wish death and give pain to others. It's best to have a discussion and talk things out rather than resort to hatred.
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I'm not even saying having them as coping mechanisms, some might do it to feel like they have someone who understands what they're going through and then there's just general exploration for others. Fiction is capable of doing a lot of things it can teach us about new concepts, change perceptions, even form politics. What we're doing now is without professional suggestion. Still generally therapists all agree engaging through writing and art is fine, the view is it crosses the boundaries when you wish to recreate, or your current mental health is unable to separate the two.
Lots of Hollywood films have a huge scale platform which I really don't need to get into what goes wrong with many themes in them. Most fan artists and writers will never reach that level of media attention. It doesn't matter if it's healthy or not, as long as the creator of said content blocks it from kids and people who don't want to see it if it contains any explicit content. I definitely feel like explicit works are all over the place on the internet, there needs to be a system for that because I'm not fan, think we should talk with people who control websites instead of selected individuals if we ever want to get that sorted out though.
Glad we agree on this part of the topic. That is why I think it's important to go to anyone who creates anything and put it down as explicit content to filter it out accordingly, rather than trying to attack their character and morals, since the only two responses we could have is they either get upset or they do it more out of spite or even humour. How did anyone come up non-offenders anyway, doesn't make much sense to me honestly it seems dangerous, ugh. I had to deal with a 20 year old emotionally attacking a 15 year old for shipping kirby characters and I had to reassure them they weren't a non-offender. MAPs shouldn't exist like this, sites get paid millions, they should have staff and mods to delete those kind of accounts.
We are all entitled to have the right to be upset about anything, while is an explanation as any, it is not an excuse. Besides it's always good to talk.
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Honestly, while i know staff can't reach every single issue with there being millions upon millions of people on the internet, i wish they would step in more with these kinds of things? And I know they can only do so much, but there are times where they let a lot of things go unnoticed. From unfiltered media, to even illegal things and harassment. And seeing as to how easy it is for kids to stumble across unfiltered media....a lot of social media sites in general need to step up a little bit
And yeah, its not necessarily an excuse. It's definitely an explanation as to why, but it never justifies harassment whatsoever. If you're upset on a problematic shipping or something related to the matter, you can talk it out with the person or maybe start some form of discussion thread. There are hardly many other ways to do it without going too far.
And as for people using it as a perspective, I don't have much of an issue with that. I'm more so talking about people using it to cope with previous traumas. But to examine perspectives? I think its interesting enough and its fine to mess around with dark topics in fiction as long as you either do it right or filter it properly. And just as long as you aren't actually condoning said topics as well. These days though, you're gonna have to say it in an intro or else they'll assume you support it.
Also as for MAPs, in general its a sticky situation since both sides are kinda...bad? and both of them go pretty far and never seem to understand what they're doing wrong. Then again, that's usually how it is for a lot of topics that are divided into 2 sides.
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Making it easier with a report system and voluntary mods surveying what's going on what be ideal, and being able to flag work as unchecked adult content and making tagging easier by having a coherent guideline that can be followed on a about page. Those are some of the kind of things I can think of. Even this stamp should be filtered for specific triggering words. DA used to be good at sorting adult content so kids couldn't see, not sure what happened.
For me when I see someone having a problematic ship, I don't really care, I kinda just move on. I wouldn't bother trying to engage with them about that but I won't be too happy if they try shoving terrible content at me though, thankfully I know how to tell them to stop. Haven't found a way with my friends and family who are invested in social justice, I try to tell them I don't want to talk about that, then they will guilt me for it.
Anyway, I think I only want it so I don't see their weird works as easily, ultimately it's up to them on what they want to write or draw..
Saying you don't support or glorify the said dark topic in the intro is the new disclaimer, pretty interesting.
What do you mean by both sides? I know there are MAPs but I didn't know there was anything else.
(Sorry if I'm not making much sense btw, I've got some terrible stomach pain, chronic illnesses are a bother.)
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There's maps and anti maps. While I'm of course more against maps, anti maps can get kinda...aggressive when not needed.
Like you said with the case of that 15 year old getting harassed. That would just about be a case of it. It's good to at least discuss things when appropriate, but to claim everyone's non-offending for silly reasons isn't okay.
And yeah, fair point. While as much as I dislike pedophilic shippings, you can't really control a person. It's up to them what they do, and in the end its what they do that they're responsible for. And besides, controlling leads to rebellion like what was said earlier.
For the disclaimer bit, I've started to see it more and more in triggering media (which is good that there's at least a warning). I think an example of that would be from Mogeko/Deep-Sea-Prisoner. They had to put a disclaimer in some of their download pages for their games to warn people beforehand on sensitive topics (especially with being accused of supporting those themes. Which they don't)
I've also done that a few weeks ago for one of my social media accounts. I added a disclaimer since some of my characters are really bad moral-wise. And honestly I think if we can't filter sites with heavier guidelines and more filtered tags, intro/profile disclaimers are at least a step towards it if anything.
And nah, you're okay. I can understand you for the most part.
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Being realistic here, a 15 year old shipping kirby blobs should have zero connection to real life maps and 'non-offenders'. Maps and anti-maps, this is honestly the very start of the things I'm worried about. The whole concept has made a them vs us argument like you said before, and it's taking a serious issue and turning it into everyday discussion, not in a positive way though.
I'm never going to call it that, think I'll just call it yikes shipping or anything else, because I don't want to make the words, abuse, pedophilia, incest ect as commonplace as they are becoming in fandom communities. Either way, it'll be good to block anyone that posts gross content instead of wasting any effort, giving them attention and making the problem any bigger.
For someone who has a few PTSD responses I appreciate it when I get warned about the content beforehand. I find it kind of confusing that you need to say you don't condone the themes though, because you can get accused of supporting it. I like to see the good in people and believe they would never condone by default. In those scenarios it appears some people are just looking for a fight.
Awesome, disclaimers and general content warnings help out with navigation, feels like it's a positive step and you're also making stuff too which is great. ^^
Ugh, and glad I make sense, not being able to eat is the worst.:C
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Yeah true. There's nothing too bad with discussing things, but if you're making it so light of a topic in such a negative way, its gonna backfire on you and it ends up happening more often.
The "yikes shipping" concept is actually a neat idea. I might just start saying that. Plus it's got a nice ring to it.
And while that is true, sometimes you have to make it obvious you don't condone said things these days. I don't automatically assume people support dark themes, but a lot of people do. It's kinda sad really. That's what happened with Deep-Sea-Prisoner. Everyone assumed that they supported those themes since they never said if they condoned it or not. They eventually had to start adding those statements in.
The disclaimers really should be around more often tbh. It's quick and easy, and it makes sure that people are at least aware beforehand of problematic content. And if we can't add more strict guidelines, its just about one of the next best things.
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Yeah, sometimes it's best not to give bad topics and themes constant attention, they have the tendency to be blown out of proportion then become the norm that way. If it can't be problem solved or if it's not someone who needs a talk because it's bothering them, then it's best not to dwell on it in my opinion.
Hah, yikes shipping has a ring to it where you just know you don't want to open the trash lid, I shall call all bad ships yikes ships from now on.
Haven't heard what happened with Deep-Sea-Prisoner can't seem to find anything, still it sounds believable from what you're saying anyway, so I'll take your word for it. I still think it's sad to some extent, that we have to assume the worse from developers who spend their time on trying to make inventive concepts, oh well.
Lot's of fans bash archive of our own for their tagging system, I don't get why, I get to blacklist all the weird stuff easy with that method. When I was little navigating through fanfiction.net was like going through a landmine. Always label that problematic content.
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