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ShaleZookeeper7 [2017-11-14 02:52:15 +0000 UTC]
She's definitely gonna leave a fire trail in her wake!!!
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UnluckyxSe7en [2015-06-18 04:23:07 +0000 UTC]
ohhhh, nicely done! Love the composition, the angle, the details, color contrast - 10/10.
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SohmaSatori [2015-06-13 10:00:40 +0000 UTC]
That wing perspective is amazing! Nicely done! oAo
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MLPegasis4898 [2015-06-06 18:41:20 +0000 UTC]
Woah...!!! This looks just so awesome and cool...!!! Love it!!!
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Artificial-Thunder [2015-06-05 18:34:57 +0000 UTC]
Absolute beauty in the perspective and the details.
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Pseudopandemonium [2015-06-05 08:11:03 +0000 UTC]
...god this looks so amazing! Like the rose-red color of the coat the an and an everything... I really like this oc
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Shinako-tan [2015-06-04 23:11:07 +0000 UTC]
This is like 30 planets of basassery put into one and then times 100. XD
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Wirlog [2015-06-04 22:14:22 +0000 UTC]
In the thumbnail look like an Alicorn with a really thick horn.
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HealingBlight [2015-06-04 20:36:01 +0000 UTC]
For a moment I thought they were a very well endowed alicorn.
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JazzyBrony In reply to PicturesYay [2015-06-04 19:56:34 +0000 UTC]
Please don't. Vil is very uncomfortable with these kinds of comments.
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ShadowInkWarrior In reply to JazzyBrony [2015-06-04 20:21:00 +0000 UTC]
Then vil should appoint to such comments herself or ask the artist to close the comments so that they wont happen c:
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PicturesYay In reply to 3vilpyro [2015-06-05 01:42:14 +0000 UTC]
idk, that posterior is comically glossy.
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Klarseolt [2015-06-04 18:53:03 +0000 UTC]
Если представить, что правое копыто это рог.. Получается немного комично xD
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TheSleepyDrizzle In reply to Klarseolt [2015-06-04 19:22:42 +0000 UTC]
В точку) Тоже сначала решил, что это рог... даже подумал, что это понификация ракеты какой-нибудь)
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Dgs-Krieger [2015-06-04 18:43:43 +0000 UTC]
Dat character I regard with no attention whatsoever to her very prominent posterior.
They way you make wings is so damn good o.o
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JazzyBrony In reply to Dgs-Krieger [2015-06-04 18:54:02 +0000 UTC]
*whispers* plz don't reduce this character or this fab drawing down to "dat bootie" it makes the commissioner feel uncomfy even if she's too polite to say anything
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JazzyBrony In reply to Dgs-Krieger [2015-06-04 19:08:03 +0000 UTC]
The sass is a bit heavy and very immature. I'm serious when i say she's really uncomfortable with it. Please be respectful.
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Dgs-Krieger In reply to JazzyBrony [2015-06-04 19:33:30 +0000 UTC]
Perhaps, but that's the way I roll.
This is what I think. Underpable draws a lot of butts. Very prominently. He isn't to be bothered if somebody says 'dat bootie', because he is expecting that effect. He is looking for that effect. I also commented on how well done the wings are, so my comment didn't focus just and only on ze butt.
Knowing that, and knowing how Underpable draws, I think 3vilpyro should have expected that kind of reaction from at least some of Under's followers. If this kind of comment bothers her, she could have asked Under to not upload the picture, or to not allow comments.
I also don't see what is wrong with appreciating well drawn butt of her character. That is not her. That is not how she really looks. I am not hitting on her, or anything.
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Khimi-chan In reply to Dgs-Krieger [2015-06-05 02:09:49 +0000 UTC]
If you're pent up sexual frustrations concerning tiny cartoon horses is so grand that you have to cause a scene, maybe you should just quit DA and go find a farm in Kentucky where no one will notice your romantic pursuits
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Dgs-Krieger In reply to Khimi-chan [2015-06-05 06:10:48 +0000 UTC]
Hey, chill. If you look to your right, you will see this picture has been included in a group called MLP-Flankylicious. If you look to the drawist's gallery, you will notice several butts.
And if you browse through DA; you will realize Under's pictures are quite mild.
Let's not even talk of what is OUTSIDE DA, shall we?
What I am getting at...you don't have to talk to me like that just because I said I liked a butt. It happened that it was a pony butt, but that up there could have been a human, and my comment would have been exactly the same.
We're in the 21º century. I think we can stop judging others by their sexual preferences, don't you think? Specially since I am positive you have your own unusual kinks that you are not willing to share with anyone.
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JazzyBrony In reply to Dgs-Krieger [2015-06-04 19:52:40 +0000 UTC]
Your logic is terrifying. Its reminiscent of a rapist saying a girl was asking for by dressing a certain way. But that's not my point.
Fire Strike is vil's ponysona and a very personal aspect of her life, and I can attest to the fact it feels like your child when it comes to your ponysona. If you don't understand that then please just understand that Vil is uncomfortable with the comment made, alter it to respect that fact and then you're fine.
I'm sorry if I have upset you but I didn't want my friend to keep feeling uncomfortable, it really upset her.
If you want to continue this conversation please note me or vil. this doesn't belong in the comments of a lovely art piece.
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Dgs-Krieger In reply to JazzyBrony [2015-06-04 22:01:34 +0000 UTC]
That...is like comparing a tap on the shoulder with murder.
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ShadowInkWarrior In reply to JazzyBrony [2015-06-04 20:11:23 +0000 UTC]
He merely pointed out one could expect such comments on artworks like this and its even in a group thats titled 'MLP-Flankylicious'.
One could expect such comments to be put down below the artwork thats put up here, since this artist does indeed draw a lot of prominent butts. This has absolutely zero to do with any kind of logic to that of a rapist so i dont see where that came from and its not related to the point daniel made either.
That he simply said a comment alike to 'dat ass' does not mean that he is in any way hitting on the character or owner of the character. He changed his comment respectfully, and couldn't have known that it would upset the person whom commissioned the artwork up here. So you cant really blame him for that.
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3vilpyro In reply to ShadowInkWarrior [2015-06-04 20:29:09 +0000 UTC]
hey there So just for the record when i decided to commission underp it was entirely because of the "Vigors" pictures I saw of Rainbow Dash and Applejack neither of whom is objectified in any way in those pieces. When I wrote to underp I cited those pictures as reference to what I was hoping for, something dark and dynamic in that style. Underp came up with a concept sketch that was kind of static and not really what I was going for so I tried again asking for an actiony flying pose or something and he gave me this which is fine. So again for the record, I did not commission underpable because of his plot pics, it's not what I was looking for and ended up being incidental. I'm very pleased with the final product and just because you can see Fire Strike from that angle doesn't mean it needs to be pointed out imo. I'm not the one who submitted it to any flank-centric groups, that was the artist's choice. And honestly just because an artist draws butts a lot doesn't mean that every piece they do is aiming to make that the focus.
Long story short, this isn't a canon pic that the staff will never see, it's an original character with a creator who loves her and I really appreciate JazzyBrony standing up for her and me. I hope you all have friends who would step in for you if someone was ever objectifying something or someone you love or who represents you.
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ShadowInkWarrior In reply to 3vilpyro [2015-06-04 20:40:19 +0000 UTC]
No no you misunderstood what i meant. Im not talking about the character itself being objectified as pure content to be appealing or sexy, but the artist here in question is known for making prominent butts on the pony characters.
This means one can expect people such as daniel or any other person really to leave a comment pointing it out or liking it, and there's not much to do about that wether you like it or not im afraid.
Its not because you commissioned the character to be drawn in that way, its merely how the artists themselves draws. And it seems he does draw a lot more pony characters in a more suggestive ways, so of course people will also follow him for that.
Thing is, if you as owner of the character dont like it, it would be better to request the artist to either keep it in stash, or close the comments.
If you do see comments you dont like tough, it is up to you to tell those people you're not fond of it, and not your friend, since you commissioned the artwork and own the character.
And if i would ever have a character of mine objectified in a picture, i would go after it myself since im the one who's responsible for commissioning the artist or other c: I wouldn't ask for help unless its absolutely needed.
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3vilpyro In reply to ShadowInkWarrior [2015-06-04 20:55:06 +0000 UTC]
The best part about friends is that they look out for you without being asked I didn't run to Jazzy asking for him to please defend me on the internet. I'm currently at work and don't really have the time to be defending my OC's butt on my work machine, but I do have an awesome friend who cares about both my character and me and who wasn't ok with what was being said and how it was making me feel.
I understand that underpable draws a lot of plot pics, that's fine, and I already made my point about not choosing to commission something that highlights that. My bigger concern is that underp's followers just be respectful of OC's and commissioned artwork that isn't plot focused. You guys don't know how old I am, whether this is my ponysona or just an OC or anything about me, and while I am an adult and can deal with what is being said about Strike even though it does make me uncomfortable, there are a lot of younger folks on this site who commission awesome artists to have their OC's and 'sonas drawn. Just because they have something drawn by an artist who happens to draw a lot of plot focused pics, doesn't mean they should just accept that other users are going to objectify their characters when they're drawn in a neutral pose. When I commissioned this I think it was back in February, I hadn't seen any plot pics from underp and I don't think commissioners should have to vet an artist's followers before requesting art, just the artists themselves. It's not hard to read the situation and keep comments tasteful especially in the MLP community. We're not in an adult only space or group like furaffinity, the picture isn't labelled as mature, no reason that these comments can't just be about the art.
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ShadowInkWarrior In reply to 3vilpyro [2015-06-04 21:04:39 +0000 UTC]
I more call that being nosy rather then looking out for you. Again you could have asked the artist to close the comments up ahead to avoid such comments from being posted, and as you can see more will do it either way wether you will like it or not, its always going to happen. Its uploaded to a public place, so yeah it will attract such people. Its better to ignore them, or again ask the artist up ahead to close comments to avoid such comments from happening entirely.
People will not think nor care at times wether or not the artist is comfortable with such comments or not, or simply dont know of it because its not pointed out anywhere. Younger people on here or not, DeviantArt is filled with people who will place such comments regardless of age or filters put on artwork or not.
Thing is, again, if a person whom commissions an artist to draw their OC's for them and they do turn out to be drawn with curves, sexual features or just a prominent butt or 'plot' in this case due to the artists style, then to avoid such comments from being made its best to ask the artist to close the comments, or at least mention it in the description not to comment such things at least. It would avoid people from jumping on to one another, and comparing their mindset to that of a rapist, which was quite rude.
People cant know of it you dont feel comfortable with it if its not mentioned anywhere, so you cant really blame others for posting up such comments, regardless whom the OC is, or whom the person who owns the OC is.
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3vilpyro In reply to ShadowInkWarrior [2015-06-04 21:36:39 +0000 UTC]
I have probably commissioned art of Fire Strike from at least I dunno 50 different artists by now, and this is literally the first time this has happened.
You don't teach those being objectified (or those defending them) to expect it and deal with it or to run from the possibility of it (by turning off comments), you teach those who are objectifying them or their characters NOT to do it.
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ShadowInkWarrior In reply to 3vilpyro [2015-06-04 21:45:12 +0000 UTC]
Well there's always a first for everything.
This is a fictional character, so people will leave such comments. You can try to teach them but its not going to stop them from liking it or not commenting on it, no matter how hard you try. I did this myself, and eventually found it better to just ignore it if such comments are put on my art or art of my characters. Really, if they want to see it as such, okay, then there's not too much i can do about it. I can tell them i dont like it but, it wont stop them from liking it in that way.
Or if i dont want it, i can just block the comments to avoid it. Simple as that really...
And its not to piss you off or anything, or make you mad for that matter, i can fully understand it doesn't make you comfortable, but stuff like this will happen regardless wether you like it or not. You cant just hound every person whom comments such things on ths artwork. People will just ignore you most of the time for it most likely, or simply wont care.
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xBeautifulDreamerx In reply to ShadowInkWarrior [2015-06-05 02:29:56 +0000 UTC]
Okay, I'm really, really sorry about butting in because I know you think it's nosy.
But forgetting about pony butts for a second, I hope you can recognize that the issue here is solely about respect.
And, frankly, spending this much time defending your rationale for being disrespectful doesn't put yourself in all too great of a light to other people.
Hence why so many people have commented here. Pyro is a loved member of this community and it hurts to see people we love disrespected, whether it's about pony butts or not.
Pyro isn't asking for people to stop liking pony butts. She's not even asking you to stop enjoying that element of this particular drawing. She is simply saying that the comments make her uncomfortable, and no matter how much you argue about it, you aren't going to debate those feelings away. Plus, like you said, Underpable makes art with prominent plots all the time, so it shouldn't hurt too much to not make that same comment on this one drawing, right?
I don't want to exacerbate the point, but you say that none of this is to make Pyro mad, but your actions seem to be supporting something different. If someone made a comment you found disrespectful on a drawing you paid for, wouldn't you feel hurt if they told you that you should have expected that sort of disrespect?
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ShadowInkWarrior In reply to xBeautifulDreamerx [2015-06-05 12:43:30 +0000 UTC]
You missed my point.
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xBeautifulDreamerx In reply to ShadowInkWarrior [2015-06-05 17:17:48 +0000 UTC]
I believe you may have missed mine too.
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ShadowInkWarrior In reply to xBeautifulDreamerx [2015-06-05 17:22:46 +0000 UTC]
No dont worry, i got it. But you seem to have missed mine due to your reply to my comment.
Nonetheless, i had already spoken to pyro about this, so i dont see a need to talk to others on it anymore c:
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3vilpyro In reply to ShadowInkWarrior [2015-06-05 17:38:03 +0000 UTC]
Yes and you missed mine as well xD
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ShadowInkWarrior In reply to 3vilpyro [2015-06-05 17:53:09 +0000 UTC]
I understood what you mean dont worry, i was just trying to say that even if you dont like it, and try to get people to understand you dont always have to comment such things on artwork, it will happen anyway. I mean there's already new comments on it so, you cant do too much about it.
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3vilpyro In reply to ShadowInkWarrior [2015-06-05 18:20:22 +0000 UTC]
I'm just gonna go ahead and choose to hope for a world where people don't objectify or sexualize my cartoon horse or the cartoon horses of others in a totally neutral child-friendly space like deviantart
That is literally what fur-affinity is for, no reason it should be here on a non-mature labelled image ^-^ My point is that there is a time and a place, this wasn't it new comments are just as out of place as the older ones.
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ShadowInkWarrior In reply to 3vilpyro [2015-06-05 18:51:59 +0000 UTC]
Mhmm yeah i understand that, and i fully agree with it on you too c: And really it would be nice to have a site where that could finally happen ( If i could i would personally make a site that would be more stricter on such content, but sadly, i cant ) but sadly, thats not how it is nowadays on DA anymore. Its better to just ignore such comments most of the time, they're mostly young people who dont know any better nor think twice before they comment such things.
im not in to cartoon ponies/horses myself anyway, so i dont really see the sexual appeal in it myself
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3vilpyro In reply to ShadowInkWarrior [2015-06-05 19:01:57 +0000 UTC]
Well ignoring it certainly won't change anything, and I've never been one to back down from my principals so I'll continue to do my best.
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ShadowInkWarrior In reply to 3vilpyro [2015-06-05 19:03:18 +0000 UTC]
Alright, then i shall wish you good luck on it c:
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INVIIZZIBLE In reply to 3vilpyro [2015-06-04 21:04:30 +0000 UTC]
Don't you listen to these people, The picture doesn't suggest to the butt at all, if anything - the pose is neutral and respectful to the fact that you don't like that ^.^
K guys, she doesn't like people viewing her character that way, no need to write paragraphs because she doesn't like something, I can respect that yes some if this guys pictures do include that sort of thing, and yes it is sometimes easy to point out - except for when its not really there, it's pony anatomy - big deal! she don't like it being exploded into something it's not - so leave it at that pls.
plus I agree, why can't the comments just be about the art and skill involved
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3vilpyro In reply to INVIIZZIBLE [2015-06-04 21:37:51 +0000 UTC]
Invii, you're amazing. Don't even worry about this ok? <3 thank you for your exceptionally well thought out arguments and points, I really love and appreciate you hun
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ShadowInkWarrior In reply to INVIIZZIBLE [2015-06-04 21:11:55 +0000 UTC]
But thats the thing.. It may not be that way to some, to others it will or could be.
The point wasn't really about how the character was drawn, but its more that people will always leave such comments as 'dat ass' or something alike it, wether or not the owner of the OC is comfortable with it or not. Its going to happen, unless comments are closed or unless its mentioned in the info the original owner isn't comfy with such comments.
A lot of people dont know it either if an owner is even comfy with such comments or not, so they dont think twice on it and just leave a comment. And seeing how Under does tends to draw his ponies sexually from occasion to occasion, he probably has people following him whom only care for such themes on characters, or any of his artwork for that matter.
I fully respect and can totally understand if she's not comfy with it people will leave such comments on her OC, but she could have asked up ahead to have the artist close comments then. Or simply ignore them since, like i said you'll always have people who will say such things ^^"
Daniel however did fully respect and enjoyed the artwork, and even pointed out how much he likes it how the wings are drawn
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