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Hello.
These are my views and my views alone. Yours may be different and I understand that.
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I looked at this stamp and didn't get it. Now I do and feel revolted. You stick a coathanger up there??? (Cries.)
So according to some pro-lifers the woman is just a bitchy slut who should of kept her legs closed and doesn't have any rights...man that's sick. That's like calling a starving person in Africa a stupid monkey who deserves to be hungry. It's horrible. We all have rights, everyone on this planet does. No-one should control people and tramatize them.
What if you were raped and were only 12 or something? Are you a stupid slut who should of kept her legs closed? What if having a baby would actually kill you? Does't that matter?
I'm upset now...
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It is a very controversial topic, when abortion was illegal the only way they could terminate the pregnancy was by coathangers, knitting needles (
Apparently if you're raped you have to bear the child as it is not it's fault that you were raped.
Total madness.
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Okay what does a coat hanger have to do with abortion?! Someone explain this to me!
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When abortions were illegal desperate women would resort to unwinding metal coat hangers, or getting knitting needles, and inserting them into themselves in a vain hope to abort the baby.
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Hell yes to this! I support abortions and I agree with the things in your authors comments. This is absolutly awesome!
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Yes. Really. And make an effort on grammar. You get your point around better with capitals at the start of a sentance.
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Sorry, it's a bad habbit.
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Sweetheart, go outside and get a life.
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Go get a brain in a working order with proper common sense injected into it
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Powerful, love it. Pro-choice all the way.
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Oh lordy-loo, the debate this has sparked!
I have found myself on both sides of every argument here, agreeing and disgreeing with points from both the pro-choicers and pro-lifers.
This seems to be a point nobody has acknowledged: the number of women who become pregnant as a result of an assault/rape is extremely low. A woman who puts up a fight, even if she loses, can make a difference there (it has a lot to do with bodily acceptance of forced entry and how much semen actually gets through clenched muscle ina complete rape). But the mental breakdowns that accompany the attack itself are devastating. I've been raped. I know. It is the mental breakdown during the attack that keeps a woman from fighting. Devastating though it is, it's a very rare and very extreme case. The mental damage is big enough to warrant abortion and nobody will ever convince me otherwise. But getting pregnant from rape just doesn't happen enough for it to be a real argument. (I hate to put up a Yahoo answer for a reference, but this answer has it right, and has cited his stuff: [link] )
I also think that the man who helped create the fetus has every right to decide its future. But not on his own, just like it would be wrong for the woman to take the sole (and often heart-wrenching) responsibilty. I understand that scientifically and even legally speaking many people disagree. All parties must accept and take responsibilty for what they've done no matter what, and must work together to prepare for the worst and to fix mistakes. If this means abortion, so be it. If it means abstinence, so be it.
I believe very strongly that, as one of the biggest decisions a person can possibly make, it is a case-by-case controversy. There are pros and cons to every argument I've heard. But what it comes down to is that, in every situation, the choice must be there.
Though opinions vary from case to case and from person to person (furthering my "to each their own choices" idea), it seems that many of those most heated and stubborn arguments on abortion are based on whether or not an individual considers a fetus a life. I do not think a fetus is a life myself, but I know the potential for life is there, and so I consider it murder anyway, even if in extreme cases it would be necessary. Definitely, murder for convenience is wrong. But babies and pregnancies are not simply an inconvenience. To say they are is a very grave understatement.
I am pro-choice, but probably would never get an abortion myself. I know just how powerful pregnancy, taking responsibilty, and having a choice is. My own circumstances would have to be extremely dire. But it would ultimately be my choice. Situations differ, but the variable of choice must always exist, lest we lose what makes us human (for those people who may be feeling argumentative about this, refer to my earlier observation that different people have different opinions about whether or not a fetus is a human life or not, and chances are nobody is going to change a differing opinion there). Choices and morals, like people, differ, and so I doubt this controversy will ever be truly be resolved. But one day, hopefully, ideally, we will be more intelligent and more able to adapt to, accept, and respect the choices of others, no matter what they may be.
I just don't know why anybody would want to impose their beliefs on others, and I don't care how passionate you are on the subject: people don't have to take your crap. To each their own, and that means giving a choice.
I know I jumped all over the place on this issue, and that I probably did it in a very sloppy fashion. I do. But like I said, this sort of necessary choice greatly depends on the case.
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I would love to find an arguement that I could either sit on the fence or be on both sides. You should be a role model to many people.
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Thank you 
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WOOOT! I thought I was the only one person on DA that was pro choice!
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Great stamp
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Thank you.
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You've inspired some crazy debate with this stamp.
There's so much to say, and yet so much of it has been said already. I'll simply say that I personally have no problem with either gender's input, and I think it's only fair that all parties involved should be able to communicate openly.
Having said that, I don't believe that 'men have no right to speak their minds when it comes to abortion'. Sure, they'll never experience it, but they still have an opinion and should be respected enough to at least have it heard. That also being said, I believe there's no way anyone but the person with the offspring growing inside them should have any say in whether or not that zygote is carried to term.
I'm pregnant right now, by accident. I'm not stupid, but it happened. Couldn't believe it. I've got an abortion scheduled for tomorrow, and it'll be a huge relief. I'm 20, going to university and headed for a fantastic career in biology that I can't wait to actually start doing full-time. I don't ever want children, both for personal reasons and for the environment. (There are far too many people in the world already.. anyone looking around with a clear view can see the signs.)
If abortion were illegal, I'd have to cope with this horrible morning sickness and the not being able to sleep for nine months. Then I'd have to bear a child I have no intention of keeping, and deal with the consequences of shame and disfigurement. Selfish? Perhaps. Would you not want the same for yourself?
If you got cancer from living in a town with lots of uranium in the soils, would you be OK with people saying "Well, you had the choice not to live there, but you did it anyways, and now you've got to deal with the consequences." ? Would you be all right with cancer treatment being banned because some group thought it was morally wrong to kill living cells? (Cancer cells are most certainly alive.) So you had to either 'live with it', or get some back-alley surgeoun to remove your tumours? Many people DON'T want kids at all. If you do, that's great, but your opinion is your own.
If someone enjoys hunting responsibly, (Just like many people enjoy having sex responsibly), should anyone else be able to tell them it's not 'morally right', and that they can't do it? I'm not talking about poaching or hunting irresponsibly, I'm talking about sustainable, responsible hunting. It's a comparison, though it's a poor one because if a hunter doesn't hunt, that hunter doesn't go through nine months of sore breasts and bloating and morning sickness and hormonal chaos, and then end up with a huge burden on their hands that they don't want.
If you think "Well, mabye people shouldn't have sex," or "mabye people shoudn't speed," or "mabye people shoudn't do extreme sports".. I'm sorry hon, but the world doesn't work that way. In some people's perfect world, mabye we wouldn't need abortions. In others, people wouldn't get hit by cars or ever need mental help or say mean things to their familes or drink too much alchohol. In my perfect world, people who didn't want to get pregnant wouldn't, and the population of the earth wouldn't keep expanding like a rediculous tumour, and tiny children would stop getting cancer.
But, it turns out the world is the way it is. We can do things to help people get out of bad situations, and I'm certainly glad for it. If you lost an arm in a work accident, I'm sure you wouldn't be very pleased if you couldn't get an artificial one because some activist group thought it was morally wrong to tain a human body with a plastic limb, and against god's will to re-attach the one you had. Your mistake, mate! Sorry, you'll just have to deal with the consequences?
For christ's sake.. it's your body. Your choice. No one else should be able to make such a huge, life-changing decision for you.
It's certainly a heat-inspiring topic, fueled all the more by reading some of these responses, both logical and blind.
I don't believe pro-lifers or pro-choicers or undecided-fence-sitters are inherintly 'right or wrong'; but the thing people need to remember is that their opinion is simply that.. only an opinion. What works for one will most certainly not work for someone else. So, the best that we can generally do is support each other in whatever decisions we make, and try just a little bit to not force our will on each other.
If a friend of mine was pro-life and got pregnant, and wanted to bear the child but then give it up for adoption, I'd support them through the pregnancy. I wouldn't try to convince them that 'abortion was the answer'. On the same page, if someone got pregnant and wanted to get an abortion, I wouldn't spend my time telling them that 'abortion is murder' and trying to convince them not to get an abortion. It's personal opinion, no matter what your stance.
What someone does with their pregnancy, whether it's abortion or childbirth, is their own business. Whatever your stance, just realise that someone else should have no right to make a decision about your body.
..*Sigh*
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I have to admit when I first saw this I thought it was about wire hangers. I've always had an extreme dislike of them. Plastic hangers ftw!
And then my brain finally kicked in. And I have to say, out of all the pro-choice stamps I like yours the best. I hate how some are so ignorant as to think that if abortion is made illegal it'll stop. There will always be abortions. Making them illegal will only make them more dangerous.
Also, the one thing that really cheeses me off ((and I phrase it that way because it makes me giggle)) is that the majority of anit-choicers are men ((at the least the ones I'm unfortunate enough to meet)). Funny how the ones who will never get pregnant seem to think they're entitled to decide whether or not it should be allowed.
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Oh God. I know. I have had hassle from a few ignorant men. I just want to punch them.
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i love that your a suporter, but pro-choice website is very sugestive, and it seems like they just want to persuade you into not aborting.
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Its good to see a stamp thats not out there to make people feel like crap
without going into too much detail, i beleive anti-abortionists should just learn to shut the fuck up and learn to get over their fucking ego
i'm sorry for the rant all of a sudden, but i am really happy to find a stamp like this
the amout of people that blab on about how its murder and what not, it seems like they really want to avoid the actual induvidual who had to undergo the procedure
whether they wanted a child or not is completely up to them, but the last thing they need is for a bunch of self righteous pricks parading around the place in the name "protecting life"
its utter bullshit
so thanks, the stamp is excellent however the most i can do is favourite it (which i will) because i havnt subscribed yet
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It's not ego. It's concern and looking past the pain.
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Should I be slightly worried about the fact that you're read comments going back to 2008 and responding to them?
What point are you trying to make here? And who are you to decide on the interpretation of a text?
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No. You shouldn't be worried. The point is that abortion is just plain stupid and anyone can decide the interpretation of text. It's just some people will take it the wrong way without someone knowing the way they put it.
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I think I should be, you are clearly interrupting ina conversation I was having with the creator of this stamp. In some cases this can also be seen as harassment.
Abortion is not pleasant, but it has it's importance and I find it extremely rude when a person says that it's stupid without understanding what the woman is going through when she is making such decisions. It's not a walk in the park, and it is most definately not something a woman takes lightly. The last thing a woman needs is for someone to criticise her or to call her a bad person for what she has done. And it is most certainly not your place to tell her what to do.
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*salute back*
i really do hate the ignorance of people, i know what you mean
the saddest and most disturbing things i've ever seen are those horrible pro-life vigils those assholes hold in infront of abortion clinics, my friend was driving her car around that area and she felt so tempted to take and "accidently" take a wrong turn and run them over
but i really do admire the fact that you put up with the amount of stupid remarks people post up here
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It's nice to find other pro-choicers
Oh dear...this may get long and I apologize, but these are just a lot of points that have been on my mind and I feel better sharing them with someone who agrees with me because I don't like arguing back and forth with someone. But I just need to get it all off my chest
I used to always be in between, but now I'm 100% pro-choice. Not saying I like the idea of abortion. Who does? But I also don't like the idea of a woman losing the right to her own body, or what's inside of it.
And on the subject of rape, I know there are still some pro-lifers who are STILL against abortion if a girl is raped. I'm sorry but...I'm not really comfortable with a doctor saying to some little girl who's been brutally raped "Oh sorry, I know you've been through a traumatic experience and all, but if you abort the fetus, you're committing a murder. You're just going to have to suck it up and deal." I'm sorry but...that doesn't bode well with me. And have people forgotten that childbirth is NOT a spring picnic? People make it seem like it's the easiest thing in the world and it's NOT. It's the most traumatic experience the human body can go through. It's horrendously painful and women always lose a lot of blood, and if the woman isn't physically stable enough, she could easily die. And usually the younger the girl is, the worse. Age isn't always the case, but do people even know how young a girl can be to get pregnant? I've heard of 9-year-olds getting pregnant....and it could be even younger than that. The chances of a girl that young giving birth and getting out of it ALIVE are very slim.
And hell, even the nine months of CARRYING the baby are hell. I don't like the idea of a girl being forced to go through nine months of throwing up almost daily and then go through hours of unbearable pain and bloodloss because people think "OMG BABY MURDER!1!" And plus the people could care less what happens to the baby once it's out of the mother's body 9_9;
Another thing, there are already thousands of children out there who already exist and who are starving, dying, don't have families....and people seem to care more about a ball of cells. Shouldn't we try to focus on the children who are already out there and need our help? Or are we just going to force a 14-year-old girl to have a baby and possibly add to the pile of unwanted children?
And even if children are put up for adoption, there's no guarantee that they'll end up in a loving home. There's still a chance they'll be abused or neglected. But the big picture in all this is.....population.
Let's look at it this way. If Roe V. Wade had not been passed, we can only imagine how overpopulated we'd be right now. And global warming would be a HELL of a lot worse than it is now. In fact, more people would probably be dying because of global warming than they are now simply because if we did not have abortion for the past couple of decades, population would be twice that what it is now and the planet would be warming up twice as fast. I'm sorry to say it, but I think the planet is more important than a ball of cells. More people are being born than are dying and that's WITH abortion.
Yes, I DO believe teenagers should be more responsible. But we can't generalize all teenage girls who get pregnant and say they didn't use protection. No protection is 100% effective, and to say to them "Just don't have sex" is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Sex is a natural thing, and to give it up is about as easy as someone giving up smoking cold turkey. Even though all protection isn't 100% effective, a girl should STILL use it, but let's not forget that it's not easy for a 16-year-old girl to approach her parents and ask for birth control, because there are some parents out there who will have a fucking heart attack and preach to the girl for two hours for wanting to have sex too soon, instead of being happy that she's being responsible. It's unfortunate, but that's how it is.
And like you said, if abortion is made illegal, it's not going to stop abortions. Women will just be going back to the old way of doing it. We're not really saving anyone. We're only traumatizing or killing women by taking away their right to choose to have an abortion.
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On the rape issue β nothing angers me more than the do-gooders going βitβs not the babyβs faultβ but they are totally ignoring the womanβs mental health which is more important than a bunch of cells.
And to carry a baby conceived in the most horrific circumstances is pretty inhumane to me.
I do think more complex sex education should be brought in. Ours was rather basic and didnβt really tell us anything.
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EXACTLY! Yes, they're right that it's not the baby's fault. But hell, it's not the girl's fault for being raped either! 9_6; Oh the logic of some people....
And yes, rape is such a traumatic experience for a girl. And to force a traumatized child to go through with the horrors of pregnancy and labor is just...sick! And not all who get pregnant from it choose to get an abortion....Sadly...some will plain out commit suicide 
Yes, better sex education is needed. And conservative parents need to get their heads out of their asses when their daughter is brave enough to come to them for birth control, otherwise it'll probably only push her to have unprotected sex.
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Yes more education, but less senseless killing.
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I agree in all 3. (shakes your hand)
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the right to choose will always be desired. My only response to anti-abortionists is if you don't like abortions, then be a positive example and don't have any. let other people deal with their own selves. K, thats it. I don't want people's responses other than the creator if this image.
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