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Published: 2013-01-14 13:06:01 +0000 UTC; Views: 6413; Favourites: 91; Downloads: 32
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behold the banner for mine, ~Talos2110 and our mates blog Fear, Fire, & Knowledge which chronicles the progress of constructing our chosen pre-heresy space marine legions for forgeworlds Horus Heresy game.here to represent that are our chosen commanders: Talos2110 with Sevatar of the Night Lords 1st company, our mate with his own captain of the Salamander 139th company, and my own Phosis T'kar of the Thousand Sons 2nd Fellowship (the beast). all are based on the models that do or will represent them, and some are based on descriptions and existing artworks
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Personally love Phosis T'Kar, he's the only one who looks imposing (sorry) the other two look like they are either drunken frat boys or hip-hopping gangsters (once again, sorry. I love the rest of your work).
Although it might be personal bias. Always loved the TS for their tragedy and anal violation by the Space Furries; wouldn't be surprised if Magnus was secretly loyal and trying to fix the Emperor and ask for forgiveness... although The Battle of the Fang kind of messed with that headcanon.
Nice work, by the way. I like the colours and effects.
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why thank you, and i have heard it said sevatar looks like he's poll dancing.
can't get it right every time
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That... that he does. And it's likely scarier than an actual Night Lord.
Now I can't get it out of my head aarrrrgghh
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You were right there was Salamander awesomeness here! I love his posture. "You mad bro?"
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yep, well the blog this was for was the salamander collectors idea, so it felt appropriate for him to take centre stage
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Oooh extremely good! 
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yep, and this is only the beginning, i'm already working on the next heresy pic (and a lot more can be expected in the future)
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You are? That's awesome! Is it going to be a series?
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yes actually, basically a continuation of 'heroes of the chapters' series [link] [link] [link] (man i didn't get far in that, i had like 8 planned) but for the legions instead, the first one is my thousand son fellowship champion menes, i'll submit it in a few days
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YES!!!! I ish eager to see what thou shalt create! (I loved that series by the way.) And do you think you'll ever get back to the ideas you couldn't do?
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most likely, though i still have a long list of stuff to get though, which i keep working on and off, problem is i'm kinda a drawing butterfly, always going for whatever takes my immediate interest
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Well that's not necessarily a bad thing, I sometimes have trouble focusing on one particular project. And so long as the lengthy list doesn't make you feel miserable and you can still enjoy yourself.
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nah, lists don't make me miserable, what makes me miserable is that dA has put 'more like this' on deviation pages, and what isn't my own work is 10 times better, feels kinda like ' hey vangar, that's some nice art you got there, but you really will never be as good as these guys'. actually that doesn't make me miserable, just fills me with envy, and a pinch of spite.
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I'm glad the lists don't sap your enjoyment of artwork! And I don't like that side thing either. I'm sorry that it makes you feel bad! Really, your work is wonderful.
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well it helps that i'm always improving, i can always tell myself that these other guys probably studied art professionally, or at least have a decades experience with complex art. i have had neither of those things, in fact i like to think, given how i've improved in 5 years of drawing and 2 years of digital art, i will ascend to their level eventually (and some casual art lessons in the future won't hurt)
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Exactly! You've done really really well, especially considering you've taught yourself.
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yep, and i don't plan to stop now. but enough about me, how are things on your end?
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I'm very glad! Never give up, you have a lot of talent!
Awww thank you for asking
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all very good to hear, sounds rather manageable, you've practically got a plan already
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Thank you! I appreciate that very much
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sounds good to me
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Thank you my good sir!
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Oh wow! That's amazing!
I like this trio a lot; very nice work!
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it certainly is an interesting trio, except for the fact they would probably all hate eachothers guts
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I always liked the Thousand sons. Their primarch to me is just a tragic missunderstood guy.
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not misunderstood, rather misguided, flying too close to the sun if you will
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I suppose that is more accurate. Still, It would have been nicer if he had remained a Loyalist and swaped places with, lets say, the Smurfs.
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nah, the ultramarines were necessary for the war and certainly after, or at least guilliman was, while i hate 40k ultras, i do quite like the 30k ones, i'd swap the thousand sons with the space wolves myself
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Hmm kinda need the Wolves, they are there for the dirty work ya gotta do sometimes.... I have also noticed the the loyalist got all the cool legions.
Chaos got the Word bearers and they are, to me, boring as fuck same with the Iron warriors and Angoron, well He's just Angry. Cant hold that against him.
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how many of the horus heresy books have you read?
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Five if I recall correctly, and yes I did read the first heretic. The Word bearers have more character with the release of that book but are still boring.
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Fear to tread, Prospero Burns, A thousand Sons and Mechanicum.
Currently working my was through the Bloog Angels Omnibusi though.
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an interesting selection, why those, and why not work through the series book by book?
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Because I live in a place where it is hard to get 'specialised' books in so I get what I can. I do plan to get them all at some point. But im currently bogged down in good books.
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And the worst part is I could buy a pallet load of 50 shades of gray.
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I know. It is bad. Like really really bad. If you want smut you can get plenty of better smut for free.
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agreed, that's pretty much about what 50% of the internet consists of
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I also have the sneaking supicion that Rawbutt Girlyman wrote 50 shades of gray secretly.
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why would you think that
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Both 50 shades and the Codex Astartes are terribly writen. I also think girlyman also had deep sexual repression issues.
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the latter is very unlikely, and the former is wholly untrue, i'm afraid while i share you distaste in 4ok ultras, the 30k ones are nothing like them and are more than admirable, guilliman specially. you really need to read know no fear, or at least rules of engagement in age of darkness (that demonstrates what the codex astartes really is, not what everyone interprets it to be).
what the heresy books demonstrate more than anything else, is that the chapters of the 41st are nothing like their predecessors in the 31st. even chapters i hate, like the space wolves, find a place in my heart when i read them in the heresy books, and that goes the same for the ultramarines. in the 41st the space marines are just going through the motions, they are old, dying and backwards, but in the 31st they are brand new and full of purpose, drive and character, and quite frankly the horus heresy has ruined me for other black library books.
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Ill take your word for it.
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Lascannonpistol?
Very cool artwork. Night Lord looks a bit camp 
Only thing I'd say needs some work is the Salamanders' Powerfist. The fingers look way too flat.
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no it's a plamsa pistol, a pre-heresy model. and yeah sevatar does have a bit of an odd pose, i hadn't realised until i was too far in to change it. also technically it's psychic power phosis is using, not magic.
power fists are a bit of a bitch, especially at odd angles, it was supposed to look claw-like, but yeah it just turned out flat in the end
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I figured it was a Plasma Pistol, but the "Barrel" makes it look like a lascannon
I knew it was Psychic, I just couldn't figure out the rights words, so I went with something simple
I find looking at Mech-design tutorials helps with drawing Space Marines, especially weapons like the Powerfist. They are effectively man-sized mecha, with a human head if they have removed their helmet
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errr, perhaps, personally i always hate people asking why i draw 'robots', nowadays i just sigh and accept the complement, still, looking at mechs for inspiration isn't a bad idea
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