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This is a tribute to the old anatomy drawings that you might find from artists of legend. But alas, this ends up being a humorous parody in 3D.It does makes me want to grab my pen and pencils and go to a figure drawing session. (See my scraps for some traditional figure drawing)
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lil-razzle-dazzles [2012-09-27 04:50:22 +0000 UTC]
I like this though. You did enough postwork where it doesn't look like typical poser render. This is what I am talking about. Doing your thing, repainting it to get away from a flat render which would have amounted to nothing here. Your postwork is what makes it look an old anatomy class drawing.
You used the render only as reference. Someday, you'll be able to draw this yourself if you practice, or model a a true anatomical study of a male body in realistic 3d with Max or Zbrush. And then you won't have to feel defensive about your gallery. This picture shows talent because you made it your own. Well done.
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Velldune In reply to lil-razzle-dazzles [2012-09-28 04:06:24 +0000 UTC]
I am trying to make a point that all expression can be art regardless of the tools. The originality and execution of the final piece can elevate one over another. That very point you make in your comparison of Tolstoy v. Twilight. Thank you for the long reply. I appreciate your perspective on this. FYI: I can draw offline, if you look at my gallery folder titled "Other".
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lil-razzle-dazzles In reply to Velldune [2012-09-29 05:32:44 +0000 UTC]
Oh, I know what you were trying to say. Sure, a kid draws a few sticks on paper, it's art. It's art to her and you don't mock her and say, this isn't art, this is two sticks. What I was trying to respond to in your journal was the overall sense that poser artists feel that they are enferior to the 3D modelers and digital painters who do all their own work. They always feel the need to defend themselves if a digital painter or 3D modeler blows off their art as derivitive. The truth is, most of it is.:shrugs: And most poser artists have very thin egos because they know what their art constitutes. They leave that detail out and stick to the notion that their "self expression makes them legit artists." They grumble when no one in the know takes them seriously. Topically speaking, it is art if all art is is self expression. My relative who is my sponsor, who is also a psychologist, fully understands how Studio works and she uses it, in some cases, rare cases, as a therapy tool for abused children. She is fully aware that Studio is content driven. It's a huge electronic collage. You can create a picture with it. And the outcome is artistic whether it's bad or not. But there is still a huge difference between a legitimate artist who self creates and an artist who uses what others create. One is more legitimate than the other, whether a Poser artist is willing to admit that or not. That is why subconciously all Pose artists get defensive. It's psychology 101. They know exactly what they are doing. I have only begun to use CG software and I am already aware of the grumblings of Poser artists against the world. They constantly say the same thing that no one takes them seriously. But...why should they? I can speak for myself. I play with Studio. I know what I am doing and if anyone were to ever say, my art was fake in that I didn't create any of it, I would just said, yeah, all I did was postwork someone else's art into my own vision. Someday, I will do all of it myself. I will move up, learn to model, learn to digital paint. This is just for fun. No ego. I'm not hurt by it because it's the truth. I have no problem with the truth, no delusions of grandeur that the images I make with Studio are my own. I didn't make Swidhelms dragon, Swidhelm did. It's a great dragon, looks just like a digital painting after I render it. But it's not my dragon. It's not my art. Maybe I can admit it so easily because I'm just a kid and I'm learning at a rapid rate, sometimes faster than adults because my brain is still wired that way where adult brains have already begun to close off those learning synapses. I have no problem admitting I'm learning. I have no problem admitting I'm a beginner. I'm not afraid of making a million mistakes. I'm not afraid of looking bad. Adults always feel they have to be better before they even start. Did you get that?
I don't feel that way, that's why I have no problem with criticism. No egos. And if it should be that years from now I'm still using Studio to make pictures because I'm not talented enough to do it all myself, who cares if someone tells me, that's the program you buy content for to make pictures with, none of it is yours, I'll say, yeah, but man, I'm having fun. There's nothing wrong with Poser. Just don't take yourself too seriously. You know?
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Velldune In reply to lil-razzle-dazzles [2012-10-02 02:19:43 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the comment. I agree that most art (Poser or otherwise) is derivative. A lot of people are still exploring the possibilities of the tools.
The art is in the sophistication of the use of the tool, and in the image being communicated. Look back at early use of the Wacom tablet. Digital Art created using a tablet and pen device in the early days was brushed off as a toy. It wasn't until the tool became a little more sensitive and the applications became more advanced and some people started really exploring the use of these tool, that we now have people making amazing images using a tablet and pen interface. Individual skill does matter, in how well someone can manipulate their tools to craft images that impress.
I'm watching your gallery and I look forward to seeing more of your work
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Luna-Fantasma [2012-03-28 18:30:02 +0000 UTC]
My God, when I first saw this I thought it was a traditional painting, the effects of the renders are very cool, incredibly realistic.
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SidSinghImagery [2011-04-25 14:30:20 +0000 UTC]
That is excellent. Didn't realize it was 3D until I read your comments. Not sure why you feel its a humorous parody.
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IgnisDrakos [2010-08-01 21:56:54 +0000 UTC]
amazing figure study great work much better than any of my stuff lol
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sophiaazhou [2009-07-12 16:24:25 +0000 UTC]
Hello! You are wonderful and I've featured you here --> [link]
If you'd like to it, that'd be greatly appreciated! =}
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Hungrysparrow [2008-09-17 00:37:20 +0000 UTC]
Definately has that old master feel. Impressive.
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vladder [2008-07-06 12:11:02 +0000 UTC]
wow, here's something that never stop
to amaze me. Awsome piece, mate!
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littlegoblet [2008-03-29 23:42:41 +0000 UTC]
the end result looks fantastic. I like the textures used in this which gives it, its old and traditional look. Nice work
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BananaWork [2008-03-19 05:59:20 +0000 UTC]
I can't believe that's 3D! It looks like a masterpiece sketch!
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Velldune In reply to James-Is-James [2008-03-17 02:35:37 +0000 UTC]
Not sure why you're asking that question James. You're well qualified to know how I did it.
But in case you really aren't sure... Poser with Michael 3 and a stone bench from (Transpond?). Rendered as you see in Poser, then in Photoshop I threw a grungy background down, laid the render down as TIF so that it had the alpha knockout to remove the Poser grey background. Then another grunge on top and just messed with erasing bits and adjusting colors and noise.
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James-Is-James In reply to Velldune [2008-03-19 01:54:55 +0000 UTC]
Cause I'm a nosy SOB. Plus, it looked really, really good.
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PaintedOnMySoul [2008-03-16 17:23:42 +0000 UTC]
Your wonderful work has been featured [link]
Please take a look at some of the other pieces while you are there and show some dA
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Velldune In reply to PaintedOnMySoul [2008-03-16 18:04:10 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the feature!
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RedGryphonArt [2008-03-13 18:55:58 +0000 UTC]
really nice, i love the texture and the flat shading.. excellent attempt at making cg look traditional. Success! ^^
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quirkyblonde [2008-03-10 05:36:18 +0000 UTC]
It's cool, but for some reason I keep thinking he has an extra limb.
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Velldune In reply to quirkyblonde [2008-03-10 16:00:18 +0000 UTC]
You have a dirty mind.... tell me more.
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quirkyblonde In reply to Velldune [2008-03-10 19:25:29 +0000 UTC]
lol, no YOU have a dirty mind - I just thought he had 3 legs, lol.
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caddman [2008-03-09 15:44:58 +0000 UTC]
...A perfect blend of images, colors and textures Bro...
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REK-drawings [2008-03-09 15:18:22 +0000 UTC]
Interesting idea, I like the "classic" feel.
And the thumbnail fooled me (Well, truth be told I was fooled even longer... until I read your description^^).
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CindysArt [2008-03-09 14:29:31 +0000 UTC]
wow!!! I love this!!! So very good and well done! Bravo!!
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Blade68 [2008-03-09 06:52:41 +0000 UTC]
At first glance i thought it WAS pencil and paper.
Nice work
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Velldune In reply to Blade68 [2008-03-09 07:12:58 +0000 UTC]
Fooled ye eh.... No, its only Michael 3. I'm sure you can recognize those knees and shoulders and the wrists.
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Blade68 In reply to Velldune [2008-03-09 10:15:11 +0000 UTC]
*grins* once I opened it to full size. I really like how you gave it a 'real' drawn feal though.
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Velldune In reply to Pooxie [2008-03-09 03:35:13 +0000 UTC]
Actually, Leonardo would probably scoff and point out all the muscles that weren't accurate enough.
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Pooxie In reply to Velldune [2008-03-09 03:39:58 +0000 UTC]
tushay I however, think it is lovely.
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