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vonmeer In reply to Mistgod [2013-02-14 00:49:15 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, It's a little iffy in practicality, and but my character was an inventor.

I think engineers made every better back when, they just had style. Radios, cars, even tools were works of art.

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Mistgod In reply to vonmeer [2013-02-14 01:59:38 +0000 UTC]

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vonmeer In reply to Mistgod [2013-02-14 23:13:33 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I've been to the ESB a few times as a kid, though I got seasick from it's swaying.

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vonmeer In reply to DerVulf [2013-02-13 02:05:05 +0000 UTC]

Thanks bro. It was designed to kill Deep Ones, but it has lots of design issues and is a compromise at making a Battle-Rifle a carbine.

I think it would be carried by Deep Ones better than us, as a short barreled 30-06 would be hard to control in full auto for most.

These guns are already so heavy, they trained GI's to shoot from the hip with them. It was called walking fire or something like it. Just imagine how heavy a drum would be, if it even could be attached.

My short barrel is also going to deafen the shooter. It will alert folks for miles. As homes were quieter in a pre-electronic age, with any sustained fire not being auto backfires.

(It was invented for a tramp-steamer campaign. I needed a perfect, high seas gun, trunk gun.) I'll give my logic why drum mags aint practical.

___It's a hybrid of old Ideas, a 1920s assault rifle.
My design is basically a 1920's version of the Colt Monitor Automatic Machine Rifle but shorter .Weighted 16 lbs unloaded.

Crossed with the 1932 "Bush fighter" version that weighted 13 1/2 lbs. (Both pretty heavy already.) Mines even shorter but has the same barrel twist as the 1932.

It's not an original idea, just my version. Others tried similar ideas after the 20's, this is like a 1925 gangsters/Adventurers version.

I imagine my gun illustrated should weight about 14 lbs unloaded maximum. Perhaps 13 lbs if Bakelite was used instead of Walnut.

Ultimately my character lost it as it was an anchor at the time, literally.

___Magazines
It's magazines is 50% heavier than the standard 20 round mag. I even doubt the 30 rounder illustrated could work, as how many smaller 308. caliber rifles have magazines over 20? (and have reliable springs?)

I may have designed a jam-amatic, If it was real and I was entering combat I'd use 20 rounders instead of the 30.

As illustrated I would load the magazine with no more than 25 rounds (as those old magazines lost spring tension quick and would jam).

___Beta Mags would not work, they are not invented yet

If you time traveled then, yeah a beta c-mag would work, after being designed and manufactured.

Without powdered graphite to lube them, they will jam though. Needing some whale oil or watch oil to make it function smoothly, and would get filthy quick. Perhaps oil of Deep-One would work. C-mags need a fine lubricant if no graphite is used.

But imagine how heavy 50-100 30-06 rounds would be hanging from a 14lbs gun. Plus add the drum weight that would be metal back then.

If you dropped it, the weight would destroy the c-mag.

___Drums are impossible.
The drum is not possible,it would need re-engineering.

It would require a drum wider than a 100 round Tommygun drum, and most peoples arms would not be able hold the foregrip. It would be almost 4 times as thick.

Worse it would need to be modified to support the magazines weight, and unlike a Tommy has no side-cuts to allow a drum. The mag latch would need removal, milling and too much modification.

Another impediment to higher rounds is overheating, as the barrel is non-removable on the American made BAR without unscrewing it.

Yes you could use snail drum!
The only way an "in-era" method to attach a magazine would be to do a Snail drum magazine like a Luger could use. It would be able to use the standard magazine well, and lock into-place. It would be heavy, and you would need a German gunsmith to design it as they did the only snail drums I know of.

I think anything over 50 bullets would be impractical and still have it easy to hold and fire accurately, but that's possible.

I don't know how I would illustrate it though. I know they always are to the shooters left side, and for this rifle would be wanted on the right side. I doubt the side effects operational ability, so I'm going to try to design this.

Thank you DerVulf, you gave me a project to figure out how this beast can be beastier. I'm going to have to study snail drums now.

The rifle would most likely be a 20+ lb carbine, but would be pretty cool.

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DerVulf In reply to vonmeer [2013-02-13 02:25:24 +0000 UTC]

Hey man, you just hit the same conclusion I did after I sent the message. Keep at it and make this thing into the kill-happy massacre-machine it was meant to be.

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vonmeer In reply to DerVulf [2013-02-13 06:24:33 +0000 UTC]

I made you the snail magazine just because it's insane.. here it is [link]

I think you will like the name.

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