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JadeWinchester In reply to Ericafaithful [2016-09-19 17:21:40 +0000 UTC]

Sarada : You said you were sorry, didn't think I'd turn around and say... it's too late to apologize...it's too late.

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javidrowned In reply to Ericafaithful [2015-09-23 00:20:23 +0000 UTC]

OMG! i read singing xD (sorry if i misspelled, i'm not an English native speaker ;-; )

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Lauunter In reply to javidrowned [2015-09-27 04:14:57 +0000 UTC]

me too xDDD

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CraftyWings93 In reply to TayBeliebeIt [2023-03-24 20:51:51 +0000 UTC]

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SIMPDUDE In reply to TayBeliebeIt [2015-10-05 11:58:29 +0000 UTC]

and in a decade will be her dad-in-law.

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Morwyn-K In reply to Sechtet [2015-05-28 17:51:32 +0000 UTC]

Uh, what ? Did you forget the part where he ignores his own children ? 

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Sechtet In reply to Morwyn-K [2015-05-28 17:53:13 +0000 UTC]

Duh, he's got a job and he didn't had to left the damn country for it. As far as I know he runs after Boruto and I am pretty sure I see him come back after work to home to be greeted by Hinata and his kids with warm hug.
THUG LIFE!

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Morwyn-K In reply to Sechtet [2015-05-28 18:22:28 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, right. That's why he wanted to go with Sasuke, leaving his "family" behind. That's why when Boruto bring him a bento, all he can think of is Team 7. From all we've seen, he spend his time yelling at Boruto (and I don't even remember the name of the girl, she's as irrelevant as Hinata...)

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Empusic In reply to Morwyn-K [2015-05-28 18:33:14 +0000 UTC]

Naruto "Left" Due to information he was given that possibly endangers the village. He left to protect his family. When Sasuke came back he gave Naruto the information. Yes there are certain things that play into everything since Naruto has many responsibilities. 

On that note, Look back to when konohamaru was trying to get his grandfathers attention. Once again it wasn't because they weren't great parents or family it is because they are busy protecting their family. 

Though i think you need to look more into the series relationships and what is truly going on.
Love the art

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ouransalchemistking In reply to Empusic [2016-02-13 07:28:50 +0000 UTC]

not to mention naruto has an entire village to run, and a country to protect. considering how busy he is naruto makes as much time as he can for his family using his shadow clones.

prior to becoming hokage it's shown that naruto's time with his family was very joyful. his wife loves him, his daughter loves him, and his son also loves him, although he's at the stage where he's pulling pranks to get attention, much like, as you said, konohamaru and naruto as well. in fact had minato survived to actually raise naruto, it's likely naruto would've been just like boruto, pulling childish pranks to get his father's attention. rather naruto pulled pranks to get anyone's attention.

naruto's a damn good dad....sasuke on the other hand almost stabbed his daughter because he couldn't even recognize her, nor had he ever so much as taken a family picture.....i'm just saying. maybe after he's done traveling through dimensions he'll redeem his daddy status.

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Sechtet In reply to Morwyn-K [2015-05-28 18:23:55 +0000 UTC]

Yeah go on and have your dreams about NaruSasu (saw your favorites) I am not gonna get dragged into this conversation. Have a nice day. Hater's gonna hate. Peace.

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Morwyn-K In reply to Sechtet [2015-05-28 18:40:25 +0000 UTC]

Oh, no, I would have been perfectly happy with a NaruHina ending if only Naruto would have ended up happy, which doesn't seem to be the case. He is totally OOC. The way Naruto and Hinata's romance was made makes me quite sick ; Neji dying as a cupidon, and particulary the fact that Hinata's character development was thrown by the window. She could have been made head of the Hyuga clan, and fight for equality within the clan, but no, she became a subdued housewive.

Believe me, my hate toward the ending has nothing to do with my preference over SNS but rather with Kishimoto's misogyny. Besides, Naruto acting totally OOC seriously pisses me off. I've always seen him as someone who would be a great father, loving the time he spent with his family above else ; instead, he married his job, proving that the Hokage's title is as empty and fucked up as it has always been. He suffered of being neglected through his whole childhood and yet he neglect his own children and wife.

If it isn't a shitty ending, I don't know what it is. Hinata and Naruto could have been a happy couple, maybe, except that they aren't because Kishi needed children with problems to make more money. I don't believe that Naruto was in love with Hinata at 12, 13, or even 17 years old. Fuck, he didn't even know her. They had a total of 5 conversations. 

What would have been good would be Hinata growing out of her crush (crush, not growing out of her fondness or admiration with Naruto) and getting more confident. Growing as a proud and strong woman. Don't tell me she is. When someone's motivation is only based of love, it isn't called cute, it's called an obsession, which I blame totally on Kishimoto's misogyny. He has no idea what a healthy couple is. 

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Cloverdeer In reply to Morwyn-K [2015-11-28 04:52:27 +0000 UTC]

I haven't watching all of Naruto Shippuden yet but I know that Neji die. But on top of it all, I'm shocked that Kishimoto turns Neji's death for part of the reason for Hinata and Naruto's relationship. It would make me feel....well, empty. And I hate the fact that Neji(OF ALL PEOPLE) dies. That just makes me want to cry.

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Cloverdeer In reply to Morwyn-K [2015-11-28 04:47:58 +0000 UTC]

Wow, you are so right. I hasn't be updated in Shippuden but as far as I know, Hinata didn't play a prominent role in Naruto's life and "the Last" made actually no sense when he and Hinata got together. It wasn't enough to convince that me that their "love" was real. And when Hinata was made a into a housewife, that just got me boiling. She could be so much more....but wasn't. //sighs

Also, a question if I may ask: since I have no experience in being a relationship(ie dating) what is your definition of a "healthy" couple? I have a feint idea based on reading yaoi and shounen ai stories which have the best couples you can find.(Like the characters have been developed and they're just so right for each other.)

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Morwyn-K In reply to Cloverdeer [2015-12-05 11:32:02 +0000 UTC]

Not much experience in romantic relationship either, but what I would call a "healthy" couple would simply be one where both parties are being themselves and basically content in their couple. Where no one of them has to reluctantly give up one aspect of their life (a job, a friend, a place...) just to please their partner. Mutual respect, friendship and companionship and not just heart-flutter. 
Basically, a healthy couple is a couple in which the lovers can both blossom. 

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Cloverdeer In reply to Morwyn-K [2015-12-05 19:32:20 +0000 UTC]

Ahh~ I see, then.~

Thanks for answering me even though this post is kind late.

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Jedi-Qui-Gon In reply to Morwyn-K [2015-05-31 22:50:06 +0000 UTC]

I so agree. While I may not be a supporter of any of the major parings, I thought the ending was horrible.

And about Neji dying to be a cupid for Naruto and Hinata, I agree with how horrible it is. And want to know something else? Neji was and still is my favorite character, for about eight years now. 

And I agree about the misogyny stuff, it’s so obvious that Kishi can’t do female characters or healthy relationships.  

 In fact, the only reason I didn’t ditch the series like I did with the Mass Effect series for a considerable amount of time following its endings which were just as bad if not worse, is because I was a fan of Naruto for longer, and can easily just focus on Part 1.

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Morwyn-K In reply to Jedi-Qui-Gon [2015-06-01 16:12:44 +0000 UTC]

Yup. The first part was definitively the best (I still think that Itachi was better as a villain, even if his story was touching, and the Uchiha's genocide orchestred bu the village could have been a superb plot if only Kishi hadn't made it okay for people to isolate and then massacre a community when they're beginning to rebel against it). While the second part began really good (Sakura's character development was great, she was so badass at the beginning... until Kishi screwed by making her still a fangirl), there were arcs which totally ruined the plot. The 4th war was a disaster, except maybe for Sasuke and Naruto's last fight which I really found beautiful and done right (in my opinion). It was as I had imagined it... Looked a lot like a doujinshi (this one : youtu.be/SZrvxKNmt2Y ).

Seriously, if it was for screwing things like this, it would have been better to make a vague ending, leaving free interpretation to people. 

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Jedi-Qui-Gon In reply to Morwyn-K [2015-06-01 18:20:07 +0000 UTC]

I agree. Ah...the memories of Part 1. I miss those days when all I knew of in Naruto was Part 1.

True about Itachi Uchiha. In my Naruto re-write AU The Tale of Neji Hyūga, Itachi will be a villain. And in my Pilotverse, titled “Another Destiny” the Uchiha are still around and Itachi is a good guy. This ensures both my verses are different.

About the Uchiha massacre, it'd make a good subplot in the AU re-write. Maybe Itachi, Danzō, and the Elders who are with him are behind it...

I agree about the 4th ninja war being such a disaster.

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Ulfenheim In reply to Jedi-Qui-Gon [2015-06-01 12:00:10 +0000 UTC]

What a relief! I'm not alone in these opinions ~

Well, the reason why I'm not ditching the series myself is that I've been following it for a good almost ten years now. The time I spent growing up, in one word? Naruto. *nods*
Of course I can't just ditch my childhood after all ~

But seriously, I can't stand the ending. Neji's death being the cupid for NaruHina, that explains it perfectly. Like, Hinata might have grown a bit but in the end she's the same shy, innocent little kid who is way too embarassed to even speak her own mind. Sure, she had her moments but really, in the long run that doesn't really make any impact.

When it comes to canon, I'm a NaruSaku supporter to be honest, but even so, I can see NaruHina canonly if they would just have more character developement through the years. "Oh, Neji dies. Let's comfort each other and finish this war. And after that, we'll become a couple and have kids. yay!" Really...where's the character developement...?
Sure, I still remember that scene from the original Part 1 when Hinata was training in the night by a waterfall, Naruto saw that and admired her passion for training. The end, nothing else between them in part 1.
Shippuuden? Hinata risks her life for Naruto, sure. So what? Naruto risks his life over and over again for everyone, it's time someone risk theirs for his.

And just as Morwyn said, it would be nice if Hinata got over her crush grew into a strong and proud leader of the Hyuuga clan. Geez, Kishimoto really needs to make proper female characters *sigh*. Sakura and Hinata are after all both the same, chasing someone who doesn't even look twice at them. Sasuke cared for Sakura as a friend when they were kids, but that was it. It was the same with Sasuke and Naruto. And Naruto looked at Hinata as a fellow ninja, a fellow friend. But nothing in the way he would look at Sakura or Sasuke. It bothers me, so much = - =
Aaaand ~ I should stop here before I go out of topic...

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Jedi-Qui-Gon In reply to Ulfenheim [2015-06-01 14:54:14 +0000 UTC]

Understandable. I've been into the series way too long to ditch it like that too. I will stick to Part 1 for the most part, Part 2 as a whole would need a re-write. Since as time goes by, I keep finding so man plot holes and contradictions.

Me either, finding it harder and harder to stand it. At first I had indifference since I thought it was not going to end well with Neji dead. But there's more and more horrifying implications, and happily never afters...it's like things will fall apart in a few years...

True about all that.

Understandable. And it's sad really that some people see the need to bash NaruSaku supporters for not liking an obviously bad ending. I have seen terrible things thrown at them. And true, NaruHina should have been developed but seems to happen out of the blue. It's just not realistic and not a healthy relationship at the end.

And true, it'd be nice if Hinata became head of the Hyūga and became a powerful female character. But sadly, it won't happen considering how Kishi is with female characters. And I agree with what you said about the rest.

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