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Published: 2013-12-07 04:13:38 +0000 UTC; Views: 8345; Favourites: 127; Downloads: 66
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Update, 05.05.2014: deleted the brass deflector from Piglet's Colt XM177E2 to make it 100% accurate to the time period and please the purists.Happy Birthday to my dear brother!
Unlike previous drawings, this is not directly linked to either the date or any of his specific interests (neither Winnie Pooh or the Vietnam War are on the list, from what I know), but, for some reason, I had this image stuck in my head for the last week, and, in order to get a drawing done in time, I just had to let it out...
Also, amusingly, I only found out about Todd Graham's similarly themed 1987 bootleg mash-up short "Apocalypse Pooh" only while well into the project, but this just goes to show that pretty much everything, no matter how far-fetched, has already been done before...
Oh well. Originality is overrated anyway.
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I could say this lines up with CURRENT (2019) events in Hong Kong!
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I love the smell of Honey in the morning, smells like victory!
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Winnie Sanders, M-60 gunner. He sure is ripped.
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This is from my favorite, Winnie the Pooh cartoon called, Winnie the Pooh in Vietnam.
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That's pretty much the gist of it - but, like I said in the description, the name was already taken...
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Either way, it made me giggle like a child. Nicely done, personguy.
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Suddenly an M4 appeared in the jungles of Nam' and nothing was the same again...
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That's a Colt XM177 CAR-15. It's correct for the time period: www.118ahc.org/Resources/VernCβ¦
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Yeah, I knew you were going to bring it up. But given they were for MACV-SOG and Green Berets, not GIs, the weapon is still out of place.
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Negative, there were many units that had them in supply.
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That is incorrect.
While it's true the MACV-SOG used them extensively, there were plenty of other units that also used the Car-15.
For example:
327th regiment of the 101st Airborne at Duc Pho, June 5, 1967
23rd Infantry (Americal) Division, summer 1967
Sgt. Maj. Paul B. Huff (left), 1st Brigade, 101st Airborne, near Duc Pho, also summer 1967
4th Battalion, 31st Infantry, 196th Infantry Brigade on a mission near Chu Lai, April 1967
1st Cavalry Division, unknown location/time
3rd Brigade, 9th Infantry Division, unknown location/time
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Problem is, your proportions for the weapon you're claiming it to be are wrong. The Colt Commando was basically a AR posing as a SMG, your foreguard is about one hand width too long, even for the extended E2 version (Which you're claiming it to be with the forward assist visible)
world.guns.ru/userfiles/imagesβ¦
Of course, this is all moot, considering there is so much intermingling of parts with the main gun line that the Commando line a real mess.
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Nope.
The gun I drew has the correct proportions of the Colt XM177E2/CAR-15 (Model 629) (please note that the length of the receiver equals that of the foreguard), and is still different enough at a glance from the M4 (which by the way, indeed has a shorter foreguard, besides having a different upper receiver, different barrel length, different flash hider, 30 round mag instead of 20, etc) to make your original assertion inexcusable if you really had the in-depth knowledge of firearms you claim.
The only goof I made was to have the brass deflector on the receiver (in effect making it an A1E1), because one of the pictures I referenced (amid others) proved to be from a reenactment group which used a modified Model 723 (M16A2 Carbine) instead of the rare Model 629 (XM-177E2), but since you never seized on this, instead going on about foreguard length and a lot of other things which I obviously got right, I get the distinct impression you are trying to cover up your original mistake with pedantic fact finding on google, something which really annoys me.
It's a drawing which features Winnie Pooh in Vietnam (quite a hefty doseΒ of suspension of disbelief there) and I still managed to get it better than serious movies about the Vietnam War such as "Platoon", which used Colt model 653P (from the Philippine army) instead of CAR-15s, which says something about the quality of my research.
If it makes you feel any better, I deleted the brass deflector, so now the gun is an 100% period accurate Colt XM177E2. There, now please find something better to do and quit wasting my time with this.
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Besides, what you've linked me there is the Model 733, or M16A2 Commando , which has nothing whatsoever to do with the CAR-15 and never used the name (and is indeed a mess, being manufactured with a mix-and-match of A1 and A2 parts), and came out int he early 80s, so I have no idea why you think it's relevant to the conversation.
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Platoon, when you get down to it, wasen't serious about the war. It was using the war as a vehicle for a message the director wanted to convey. As for the rest of your statement, 30 round mags did exist for the XM series, but in extremely limited amounts directly from Colt, forcing the after mentioned SOG and SFG(A) to buy them from the civilian market. The Model 733 reference was my mistake, at least I didn't reference the CQBR, which is basically a modern Colt Commando.
Considering the rest of your statement, I deal enough with people who draw little more then kitbashed ARs in their art in the wrong time peroids and at a glance from the shading of the picture I didn't notice the lack of a "modern" rear sight zeroing and the flash suppressor being of the proper time peroid and make. That doesn't indicate a lack of knowledge, that indicates a rush to judgement. I'd appricate it if you knew the difference.
Good day, sir.
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I apologise for being a bit too harsh on you in my last message, I had a rather tiring day and wasn't feeling very charitable towards my fellow humans, especially those who annoyed me.
Yeah, I know some of the XM177s came with 30 round mags, they show up in pictures, but I decided to go with the 20 round ones to try and make it visually clear that is definitely not an M4.Β Guess it didn't work.
Besides, this is exactly why I jumped down your throat as soon as you brought it on, I was fully expecting people to make the mistake and I really don't like people questioning my research when I know I did it well, especially not in such condescending manner.
That being said, your approach truly didn't help at all - if you'd looked at what was drawn, and instead of going "he drew an M4 in Vietnam, this guy obviously has no idea what he's about" you'd have offered me actual critique, such as "the XM177E2 you drew shouldn't have the brass deflector, because X,Y,Z", then maybe this whole thing would have gone a bit differently, we could have sorted this out like civilised human beings and I would have thanked you for it as well.
As it is, here we are, both butthurt over trivial stuff such as "what gun did Piglet use during his tour of 'Nam". When you put it like that, it sounds... surreal XD
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Oh goddamnit furries ; Everybody evacuate this artist
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Oh, I like it how I draw one picture featuring anthropomorphic animals (as if you could have drawn Winnie the Pooth as anything else) and I am already labelled as a furry.
Of which, I'll grant you, there are copious amounts on DA, but that's neither here nor there - it's their problem what they like, and surely not mine or yours.
Speaking of which, it really amuses me how you sneer down condescendingly on furries - a fetish, which, while certainly not my cup of tea, is pretty harmless - and a short visit to your profile reveals you are waaay into vore - which, in my book, features large amounts of "squick" and requires brain bleach.
Again, that's your problem and not my place to judge, but, if I were you, I'd review my attitude towards fellow humans, because, my friend, if there's one think I really don't tolerate, that's wanton arseholery.
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While I appreciate your defense of the furry fandom I'd just like to point out that not everyone in the furry fandom fetishizes it. I know quite a large number of furries who don't. 
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Oh, I'm sorry, guess I was a bit unclear in my comment, because I used the general word "furries", when I should have said "yiff", because I was definitely talking about the sexual aspect.
I know that, from the general furry fandom, only a much smaller subset are into that as a fetish, but I assumed it would be clear form the context what we were talking about.
After all, there is no way the "vore" the other deviant was into can be interpreted as anything else and I was calling him out on his hypocrisy of being intolerant of a rather mild fetish when, he, himself, likes a much more unsettling one.
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love the Heffalumps don't surf on the helmet veryΒ Apocalypse now love the piece manΒ
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Are you seriously implying that Winnie is a smoker? Really? I hate you I hate you I hate you. You iconoclast! You anarchist!
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Hey, don't judge him too hard, it's tough getting honey in the middle of the jungle! He was suffering from withdrawal symptoms and just had to replace it with something. Luckily the accessory packs to the MCI rations (Meal, Combat, Individual) come with 4 packs of cigarettes in them and Piglet is happy to give him his as well.
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This is the single most brilliant thing I have seen this week.
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Thank you, glad you like it!
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I see what you did there
The wonderful thing is that both Pooh and Piglet practice safe firearm handling, so they keep their trigger fingers out of trigger guard until it's time to shoot.
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Also, Piglet looks so cool and nonchalant about being in an enemy-infested jungle. Just the kind of guy you'd want by your side ^^
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He's actually scared stiff, but he tries to put on a brave façade for Pooh. He is quite a lot braver than he gives himself credit though. After all, he volunteered for army service after Pooh got drafted, something Pooh still doesn't know.
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This is a great piece of art, but I don't think my brain can actually process it.
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Heh. I've been told that by a lot of people...
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...
I don't even know what to think about anything anymore...
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And is that a... good thing or a bad thing?
As the author of the above piece, it is imperative that I know.
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I'm honestly not sure. I'm gonna have to go stare at a wall for a few hours and get back to you.
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I see. A very cat-like undertaking, if I may say so (cats are, after all, champions at staring at walls).Β
I wish you illumination upon this grave issue.
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