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Bloodyninja88 In reply to ??? [2014-09-25 03:05:31 +0000 UTC]
Glad you liked it
yeah that can work too.
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weirdnwild91 In reply to Bloodyninja88 [2014-09-25 03:25:14 +0000 UTC]
^^
It's from the previously used idea that reflections always reflect one's true form, like if they are magically disguising themselves, a reflection of any kind reveals their true form.
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Bloodyninja88 In reply to weirdnwild91 [2014-09-25 04:23:27 +0000 UTC]
yeah that makes sense, she will have to be careful around mirror's and other objects that have reflection's.
so will she have any ability's or will she be just like a normal human, in terms of powers that is.
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weirdnwild91 In reply to Bloodyninja88 [2014-09-25 04:26:05 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, or else people will think there's something wrong with her. 030
Bill Cipher's agreement will make her fully human, and she won't have any of the powers she had left.
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Bloodyninja88 In reply to weirdnwild91 [2014-09-25 04:46:09 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, and that would be very bad with those government agents around looking for strange things like that.
Ok then,
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weirdnwild91 In reply to Bloodyninja88 [2014-09-25 04:58:36 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, they would take her in in a second. 8c
Yep. However, if she went back on their deal by not doing Bill a favor, then by the "Rules of Demons", he has the right to turn her back into virtual Giffany.
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Bloodyninja88 In reply to weirdnwild91 [2014-09-25 05:43:23 +0000 UTC]
yep, though that would add more suspense to the story
yeah that makes sense, though he did go back on his deal with dipper, but then again he is a demon.
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weirdnwild91 In reply to Bloodyninja88 [2014-09-25 05:55:07 +0000 UTC]
Indeed it would.
Yeah; though that is part of the "Rules of Demons": if the other person in the deal does their part first, the demon doesn't have to honor their side of the deal.
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Bloodyninja88 In reply to weirdnwild91 [2014-09-25 07:02:23 +0000 UTC]
yeah, to bad Lefty is gone, i would of loved to see them turn it around only to find all those small aliens that would then destroy all the evidence before they could do anything
true very true, once they get what they want they stop caring about doing there end of the bargain.
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weirdnwild91 In reply to Bloodyninja88 [2014-09-25 07:14:14 +0000 UTC]
Haha, yeah. xD
The only way a demon is forced to honor their end of he bargain is if the other person or demon themself specifically says to perform the demon's side of the deal first, and then the other person wold return the favor. That's another demon rule.
In "Sock Opera", Dipper didn't specifically say Bill had to give him the password first, which is why Bill was able to double-cross him.
In "Dreamscaperers" Bill said he would get the safe combination for Gideon, and in return Gideon would do him a favor. Because he said it in that order, he had to do his part of the bargain first.
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Bloodyninja88 In reply to weirdnwild91 [2014-09-25 08:05:34 +0000 UTC]
yeah, and Gideon got out of having to do his part of the bargain because bill didn't give him the full combination, Dipper on the other hand seemed to of decided to give Bill what he want's first which was a "Puppet", though i still wonder what the password was.
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weirdnwild91 In reply to Bloodyninja88 [2014-09-25 08:20:33 +0000 UTC]
Yes, exactly: if the demon is rendered unable to perform their part of the deal, then the other person has no obligation to fulfill their own part, and the deal is broken.
Dipper was on a time limit, so he agreed to give Bill what he wanted quickly; and Bill coercing Dipper by reminding him that Mabel has never done anything for him only accelerated Dipper's hasty decision to agree to the faux deal.
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Bloodyninja88 In reply to weirdnwild91 [2014-09-25 08:38:38 +0000 UTC]
Yep , though i don't think Dipper was really on a time limit, he was half asleep at the time and i think Bill used that to make him hallucinate that it was about to erase all the data, when Bill was convincing dipper to make the deal i noticed that every time the scene cut back to Dipper the clock was on a exact minute mark.
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weirdnwild91 In reply to Bloodyninja88 [2014-09-25 08:43:38 +0000 UTC]
Hmm, I see what you mean; and the clock seemed to be moving abnormally fast, too...
Bill DOES have some control on the physical world outside of deals; as long as they aren't permanent.
I figured that the reason Bill had to possess Dipper's body was because he couldn't destroy things in the physical world himself unless he made a deal that allowed him to in some way.
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Bloodyninja88 In reply to weirdnwild91 [2014-09-25 09:44:52 +0000 UTC]
Yep, plus it the computer really was going to lose all it's data then why would Bill need to destroy it?
Also Dipper depriving himself of sleep didn't really help him out when it came to resisting Bill's powers.
True, i don't think he can do much to the Physical world, there is a cryptogram in the episode that translate's to: "Pure energy, not skin and bone, rising like the Shepard tone": people thing that this might be referring to Bill.
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weirdnwild91 In reply to Bloodyninja88 [2014-09-25 09:52:23 +0000 UTC]
To make sure nothing could ever be salvaged? But you're right, your theory does make sense when these ideas are brought about.
Yeah; it affected his mind.
Bill refers to himself as a being of pure energy int he episode, so that's most likely the clue showing they're referring to him.
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Bloodyninja88 In reply to weirdnwild91 [2014-09-25 19:22:06 +0000 UTC]
yeah, if he had broken it after all the data was deleted then i could understand that he just didn't want to take any chances.
yep,
yeah, if so then that means they are comparing him to the Shepard tone, which is a auditory illusion of a tone that continually ascends or descends in pitch, yet which ultimately seems to get no higher or lower.
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weirdnwild91 In reply to Bloodyninja88 [2014-09-25 20:01:46 +0000 UTC]
Makes sense.
Hmm, I see...
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Bloodyninja88 In reply to weirdnwild91 [2014-09-25 20:33:18 +0000 UTC]
yep
yeah, though it might have something to do with the non-physical world he live's in.
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Bloodyninja88 In reply to weirdnwild91 [2014-09-25 23:44:50 +0000 UTC]
yep, Anyways they have been doing those type of cryptogram in each episode, another example of this (from this very episode) : "WINNING HEARTS BY DAYLIGHT!," "POSSESSING ROBOTS BY MOONLIGHT!," "HER EMOTIONAL BAGGAGE IS A REAL FRIGHT!," and "SHE HAS THE ONE NAME GIFFANY,"
(P.S. sorry for taking so long.)
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weirdnwild91 In reply to Bloodyninja88 [2014-09-26 00:01:24 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I heard that one.
(I told you already, it's fine.)
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Bloodyninja88 In reply to weirdnwild91 [2014-09-26 00:42:09 +0000 UTC]
Ok then , so is there anything else you want to talk about?
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weirdnwild91 In reply to Bloodyninja88 [2014-09-26 00:53:12 +0000 UTC]
Hmm...I did come up with a few more "Universe Rules" from that earlier idea I mentioned.
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Bloodyninja88 In reply to weirdnwild91 [2014-09-26 01:11:42 +0000 UTC]
Really, well please go ahead and tell me.
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weirdnwild91 In reply to Bloodyninja88 [2014-09-26 01:18:42 +0000 UTC]
Well, I had to think of rules that sound specific enough to be in the book.
One rule was: "You must never destroy a planet with life on it."
Rule #7 was the one dealing with how something gain a soul.
And others I came up with I switched over to the "Rules of Demons" book.
I'm certain there are plenty more I could think up that could fit.
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Bloodyninja88 In reply to weirdnwild91 [2014-09-26 02:53:02 +0000 UTC]
that first rule kind or reminds me of Prismo (adventure time)
yeah, we went over Rule 7 and i think the "Rules of Demons" should be kept as a sub-category to the universe rule's, though if you make a story out of your idea then you should only really need the one's that pertain to the story itself, for now that is.
With that said i am a bit interested in what other rules you have came up with.
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weirdnwild91 In reply to Bloodyninja88 [2014-09-26 03:03:02 +0000 UTC]
Because of the rule about killing wish masters?
Yeah; it seemed like that should have its own chapter int he book.
Hmm...well, what do you think could qualify as a "Universe rule"?
Oh, wait; I just got one: "Opening a portal to the dimension of demons is strictly prohibited." The reason being that it would allow them to escape and use their powers fully in the physical dimension.
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Bloodyninja88 In reply to weirdnwild91 [2014-09-26 04:21:04 +0000 UTC]
Well that and when he was showing some of the criminals that were locked up in the citadel one was a head that cut up a whole planet.
yep, but which journal, if i had to choose one it would be the first.
Not sure myself, though the "Opening a portal to the dimension of demons is strictly prohibited." is a good one, you could also add "No genocide of a sentient Race" or "Destroying a Soul is forbidden"
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weirdnwild91 In reply to Bloodyninja88 [2014-09-26 04:29:48 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, i remember that: in fact, I think that may have been what gave me the idea for the rule.
Actually, I meant the demon rules would have their own chapter in the "Universe Rules" book.
I've thought of the genocide one before, but I was never certain how specific I should word it.
The destroying a soul one sounds good; and how about "Kidnapping a soul from their host body is forbidden"?
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Bloodyninja88 In reply to weirdnwild91 [2014-09-26 05:56:25 +0000 UTC]
yeah, that was one of the more destructive ones that were shown, though that guy that stole all those heads was the weirdest.
Oh, Ok then
yeah i can see why you would want to be specific about that one.
thanks, as for kidnapping a soul, i would have to say Maybe.
By the way: caramelkeks.deviantart.com/art…
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weirdnwild91 In reply to Bloodyninja88 [2014-09-26 06:08:18 +0000 UTC]
Yeah: Adventure Time can be pretty bizarre.
Yeah: I'm certain there's one way that sounds best, but I'll really have to work at it until I'm certain it sounds right.
Yeah; it doesn't sound as evil as some of the other things, but it's a definite possibility.
Here's another one: "Causing tears in the space-time continuum is forbidden."
I saw that one. They drew Giffany pretty well there.
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Bloodyninja88 In reply to weirdnwild91 [2014-09-26 07:34:30 +0000 UTC]
Yeah it is very bizarre
, good luck
True, though at the least they can be returned to there body at a if rescued.
Well it would matter if the Tear is controlled or not.
Yeah, Caramelkeks does good work, my favorites of her work are The golf war and Nice subconscious you got there .
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weirdnwild91 In reply to Bloodyninja88 [2014-09-26 07:42:12 +0000 UTC]
Indeed.
Thanks~
Exactly; then the kidnapper will be gravely punished...in ways that not even Bill would dare tempt.
Yeah, I guess so.
I wish I could draw that well...or at least had the self-esteem I used to about my drawings. d=
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Bloodyninja88 In reply to weirdnwild91 [2014-09-26 08:16:34 +0000 UTC]
I can see that
, a controlled tear that can be fixed easily is one thing, a uncontrolled tear that is getting bigger is another.
Well at least you can draw well.
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weirdnwild91 In reply to Bloodyninja88 [2014-09-26 08:30:55 +0000 UTC]
Yep.
Yeah; if they lost control of messing with the tear, then they would get in trouble with the higher-ups.
So you've seen some of my drawings?
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Bloodyninja88 In reply to weirdnwild91 [2014-09-26 09:45:15 +0000 UTC]
yeah and do a lot of damage too.
I've looked a little, there pretty good.
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weirdnwild91 In reply to Bloodyninja88 [2014-09-26 09:51:18 +0000 UTC]
Indeed. Space and time can mess thins up pretty bad on their own, but together...
Thanks.
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Bloodyninja88 In reply to weirdnwild91 [2014-09-26 18:36:13 +0000 UTC]
Yep, that would be one sure fire way to anger the Time Baby.
your welcome
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weirdnwild91 In reply to Bloodyninja88 [2014-09-26 18:45:10 +0000 UTC]
Indeed...the Time Baby becomes one of the higher powers in the future, so when he does gain that position, he'll make sure those who mess with time get their proper punishment...
^^
Oh, someone made a Giffany group finally!!
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Bloodyninja88 In reply to weirdnwild91 [2014-09-26 19:55:30 +0000 UTC]
yep, like Blendin Blandin, speaking of which i wonder when he will come back.
I was wondering when someone would do that, took longer then i thought it would.
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weirdnwild91 In reply to Bloodyninja88 [2014-09-26 21:06:08 +0000 UTC]
And what his role will be? Because he's obviously still peeved at the twins getting him in trouble before.
Yeah, I mean: it's already been four days since the episode premiered!
Obviously she didn't gain the proper followers fast enough.
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Bloodyninja88 In reply to weirdnwild91 [2014-09-26 21:56:49 +0000 UTC]
yeah, he looked a little confident in that clip they showed of him, so i am guessing that he was some how put in charge, maybe the Time Baby is busy with something and he was chosen at random?
yep, i think Bipper got a group almost the same day as his episode, and yet Giffany had to wait four days for hers. (it also seems that the number of Giffany fan art just doubled)
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weirdnwild91 In reply to Bloodyninja88 [2014-09-26 22:12:36 +0000 UTC]
Well, we'll just have to wait and see what he has come back for when the time comes.
Well, Bipper makes more sense because people had already liked Bill Cipher, I guess.
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Bloodyninja88 In reply to weirdnwild91 [2014-09-26 22:50:04 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, it shouldn't be to many episodes now, after the next one it sould either be Him or the Blindeye group.
i guess, though you would think that Bill's group would of just made a folder for Bipper.
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weirdnwild91 In reply to Bloodyninja88 [2014-09-26 23:01:01 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, probably.
Yeah...but there are probably some people who like Bipper the best, so why not make a group for just him? One that has art that is strictly Bipper-related.
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Bloodyninja88 In reply to weirdnwild91 [2014-09-26 23:37:59 +0000 UTC]
, so far this season has be going rather well.
true, the part's with Bipper were very funny.
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weirdnwild91 In reply to Bloodyninja88 [2014-09-27 00:04:17 +0000 UTC]
Indeed it has. I can't wait for "Little Gift Shop of Horrors".
Yep. :3
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Bloodyninja88 In reply to weirdnwild91 [2014-09-27 00:20:22 +0000 UTC]
yeah, i am a little worried about the use of claymation for the Monster's, but i think they might be able to pull it off.
, by the way it seems that there are two different group for Giffany, here is the one i joined: Giffany-Chan
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weirdnwild91 In reply to Bloodyninja88 [2014-09-27 00:30:53 +0000 UTC]
I have no problem with claymation: it takes a lot of effort to do right, and is way better than resorting to Flash animation or CGI as a shortcut.
I joined the other one because I was invited by the person I told the group idea to.
At least now Bipper and Giffany are matched in the number of groups.
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