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How, you ask? Well, ponder this.Say a person went around life with a severe hatred of the color orange. And not as in "oh this orange shirt does nothing for my complexion" hate, but hate as in a sincere belief that anything bearing this color is pure evil, sinful, and must be eradicated. The belief that orange is the cause for all that is wrong with the world. Even going so far as to brutally attacking/killing people for merely wearing the color orange.
You'd think that person was a prime candidate for the nuthouse, right?
Now go over that scenario again, but replace 'the color orange' with 'homosexuality'.
Yeah.
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Well, to start, that sounds like something a sociopath would want to do, and I'm not sure how much of a sociopath's desire has to do with hate. Or you could want to do that cause your really really angry for some reason.
Honestly, I would really have to get into "your" head to answer that one. And figure out why "you" hate her. So let me go into an example I do know the reasons behind.
Let's say I hate my father.
That hate is rooted in the pain he has caused in the past, and the fear that he will hurt me again. The fear that he will do everything in his power to destroy my dreams and turn me into someone I am not.
If I didn't think he was capable of this, or even likely to do so, I could not hate him.
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I thought I was the only one who felt this way about the term on this. I always felt people mean to say bigot(ry), not homophobic, but this is how I personally feel.
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Actually, phobia can mean fear or repulsion/hatred.
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All I'm getting is this . Fear or aversion. Synonyms listed include the word "fear" itself. Nothing about repulsion or hatred.
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That link said fear or aversion. Definition of aversion here . Aversion is "a strong dislike," synonyms include repulsion and loathing (hatred). So... you actually gave me the citation you were asking for. Thanks.
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Mhm, but usually that hatred is due to some kind of fear.
Like people hating snakes because they fear touching, seeing, or being killed by one.
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But not always. The word phobia can refer to hatred/disgust regardless of "fear."
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In the case of homophobia though it refers more to hatred.
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No, let me point out the difference. Homosexuality was looked at as an abomination since the beginning. Orange was not.
I have a few friends that are gay, I personally don't like it, but if they're not gay around me, I'm not biased.
Now, let's talk about unfair.
If I were to make this same stamp, but replaced the word Homophobia with the word Homosexuality then I would be in sooooo much trouble.
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Homophobia is an irrational fear based on lack of understanding that spawns hatred, whereas homosexuality was removed from the American Psychiatric Association's list of mental disorders in 1973. It's 2013. Get with the times, man.
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Your choice of saying homophobia is an irrational fear is not any better than my choice of saying homosexuality is an irrational choice. Get with the times, man. This was posted so long ago.
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Homosexuality is not a choice. You need to read more scientific findings before you speak to me again.
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There's no science to it.
It's all by choice.
You want to date/sleep with/marry someone of your own gender?
Go right ahead, that's your choice.
You think there's science to it?
Kinda actually, most people that are gay have mental disorders, go look that up.
I'm not saying they ALL have mental disorders, but that's the majority that have had some form of traumatic event in their childhood pertaining to someone of the opposite gender. If you don't believe me, I don't particularly care, search that on your own, it's the same for pedophiles really.
So maybe you should look this all up before returning your beliefs to me.
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Looking back I must apologize for sounding so snappy. Whenever someone does say it's a choice I can only think of the people who suffered just because of their sexuality.
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It's fine
But
I don't mean it to be rude but
That's like saying a whore can't choose to prostitute his or her's self for money.
It's your choice to go and be with someone of the same gender, I've had a crush on someone of my own gender; however I never acted on it.
It was my choice to not act on it, as it could have been your choice to act on it.
What I am saying is.. It's a choice to act or to not act, there's nothing to how your brain functions; either you do or do not.
I understand you may have went through troubles, and I am not being bias to anyone, I am try to state that all of the people that I know what are gay/bi have decided to act on it.
I have friends like that primarily and it hasn't effected me what so ever, and I'm always around my dad; doesn't make me attracted to my own gender still.
But believe me, I understand you had troubles, I've seen others that were bullied/disowned/abused due to them decided to be attracted to the same gender, and I have supported some of my friends through that.
But it's the choice of doing so, maybe after your troubles started you felt like you couldn't go back or didn't want to?
I'm sorry if this all comes as rude, I swear I mean it all in a neutral way, and I just want to clarify that I really don't mean it to sound bad.
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When you say it's a choice you're basically saying it was a choice for many to go through something that caused severe bullying, being disowned from their family, and being beaten for being gay.
But, you're right. I totally chose to have a sexuality that caused bullying so bad I had to drop out of school. It was my choice to pick something that caused life to become hell for me. I know I could have just become straight again but eh, I just didn't feel like it. I liked being bullied!
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Oh trust me, I have all the details, thanks. Want the science? [link] This explains what I shouldn't have to.
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That's not science.
That's the basic 'Why they think it's right'.
I'm not going to push religion in this, as that is useless, people listen to what they want to hear.
They think like a girl if there's no father to lead them, they think like a boy if there's no mother to lead them.
That's just not science, that's how they're raised.
And if it's a disease, as the stamp states, then why do people embrace it?
It's not disease or disorder, it's all choice.
I could choose to go out and date a girl, but it's not my preference to date either gender.
What I'm getting at is it's all preference and choice.
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All I'm saying is that this "preference" is hardwired into the brain. I believe we are in agreement there, yes? The end.
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Yes, as it is all options.
//End.
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Homosexuality is not a choice? I'm pretty sure having sex with the same gender is a choice. You need to look at post dates before you speak to me again.
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The act of sex is a choice no matter what your sexuality. And don't worry, I saw the post date. If you want to say homosexuality has been a sin since the beginning, than this argument is just as timeless.
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Oh damn, are you still talking? Wow. What page is this comment on? You must have some personal issues to sort out to be on a several month old post, protesting against homophobia. I sincerely hope you sort all of your problems out and live a good healthy life.
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Strictly speaking, only a few cultures ever had any issue with homosexuality--this is not to say an old belief is somehow better than a new one. Worker's rights are a relatively new idea, for example.
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"If I were to make this same stamp, but replaced the word Homophobia with the word Homosexuality then I would be in sooooo much trouble."
This is true. This stamp, I believe, actually is in regards to a stamp saying the exact opposite of this one. Someone had a stamp that insulted homosexuality, this user got angry, and now it appears that this one was created because of the other.
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I think that's the same one that blocked me when I got too profound. But, the journalist says it was a joke, even though the debate continued.
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I guess. I don't know the details, all that I'm aware of is the fact that this stamp is in regards to another.
I do know that the stamp was satire though.
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um im just sharing my opinion but saying your friends arent "gay around you" is incorrect if theyre gay theyre gay everywhere they go just saying
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Actually, no it wasn't looked as an abomination from the beginning. In ancient Rome it was actually common and open for men to explore their sexuality with other men, as well as women. It was also common for orgies to be held. And even in the animal kingdom there is homosexuality, from birds to apes to dolphins. If God didn't approve of being gay, would he make it in His own creations?
And being homosexual isn't a choice. You can't choose who you love. You can't force yourself to like another sex when you don't. I can't force myself to like girls. So how is it fair for somebody gay to be forced to liking a gender they aren't into?
I feel bad for your friends who have to deal with your bullshit.
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"If God didn't approve of being gay, would he make it in His own creations?"If God didn't approve of homicide, why would he put the urges in His own creations?
If God didn't approve of rape, why would he put the urges in His own creations?
If God didn't approve of infidelity, why would he put the urges in His own creations?
Now, I'm not picking on your beliefs or anything, but that's a shit-tier argument. Just saying.
Also: Gender and sex are discrete concepts, use them as such.
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I get that and understand where you're coming from. I'm just saying in animals most don't just kill for pleasure (although dolphins do; sick fucks o.o) and don't tend to rape. Yes in humans we're sick like that, but homosexuality is found in species where rape and homicide isn't in their traits.
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i didn't know ;-; fayul on my part, sorry xD
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*Sigh* You people will never learn.
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my friend, I'm afraid it is you who will never learn.
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I feel bad for your friends who have to deal with you.
How is that unfair?
Homophobia is an excuse. Think about it: Someone who is "afraid" of someone because that person is attracted to the same sex. Utterly ridiculous.
Is there such a thing as heterophobia? I sincerely doubt it.
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aactually it exist O3O usually gay ones who had very bad experience with theses others... (of that they said O_O)
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Yeah, I was just making a point.
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There is such a thing as heterophobia, brah. Just like how there's such a thing as cisphobia, silly as it sounds.
That's sort of the point of phobias, bro. It's irrational. If I'm by a window and looking out and I'm higher than two stories up, I get paralyzed with fear. I know that I'm safe, it doesn't matter. It's called an irrational fear.
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First off, I'm not your bro or your brah. Second, I understand. Third, I don't care.
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You're my bro because I called you that, it's irrelevant how you feel regarding that.
I can tell how little you care by the fact that you're replying to tell me you don't care.
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It's obvious that you lack common sense so I'm no longer going to reply to you.
Have a nice day!
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Such a poet. It brought a single, sad tear to my eye. Or, actually, maybe that's because I just woke up and still have eye gunk. Hard to say.
Regardless, it's a cute sentiment. "I don't have to argue with you because reasons".
I'll have to remember in the future that if I want to win an argument, all I have to say is that the person I'm talking to isn't worth my time. Then what I'm saying magically has more validity attached to it!
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Cute, real cute.
I am not in any way obligated to talk to you. So fuck off.
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"It's obvious that you lack common sense so I'm no longer going to reply to you.
Have a nice day!"
Fission mailed!
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Ooh, do I care? No, I don't.
Good job trying to be funny though!
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