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All this talk about forcing children to believe in gods/God, it's a tragic thing, I agree. I feel horrible when I hear people are being forced to say what they don't believe in, just like many of you who had overzealous families that made you go to church without your consent. And I will say it's wrong to force children to engage in what they don't understand.But guys, there is nothing harmful about teaching religion to children.
"But teaching children religion slows human progress! In order to kill religion we must stop teaching it to kids!"
It does not slow so-called "progress". People who actually believe this, you have to realize that by killing off a religion, you or other people just end up creating and teaching ANOTHER one. Religion has been with us since the ANCIENT times, and no matter how much you try to be rid of it, it will always be replaced by some other dogmatic belief system, with or without gods. See also fav.me/d4xgjt3
"But children do not need to learn from such a bloody and gorey book such as the Bible!"
I agree, many children are not ready to experience the deep contexts of the Bible, but it doesn't harm the child to give the a rated G version that they can enjoy and understand:
No blood and gore in this little beauty. Antitheists and fundemental Christians, did you really expect a kid to be able to comprehend the adult version?
"But children do not need to be brainwashed by Christian camps!"
What about atheist children camps that have been around since 1996? They do just as much preaching about how God doesn't exist, it's liable to be called "brain-washing" as well when you put them both into that sort of context. The truth is, kids want to learn and be around other kids, and camps are the perfect opportunity for that. I strongly oppose camps that act more like boot-camps in general, so I can understand the concern inside children camps very much! Parents must choose wisely and know exactly what their children are being taught about when it comes to that sort of thing, so children can avoid being put into compromising situations.
" But children are taught that being an atheist is bad! They are trapped into thinking something they may not actually believe in! "
And I don't think it's right for that to happen. Alot of that behavior does not come from the actual message of Christianity, but from the parents themselves, because of THEIR faith. If a parent is THAT intimidated by someone who lacks the faith, their own faith is liable to be weaker than they wanted, and that is a problem they need to deal with themselves instead of bringing their children into it. Having doubt is not a bad thing, it's something everyone experiences at some point, and children should/are being taught to explore their beliefs. See also fav.me/d50o69g
I could go on and on about it, but here is where I think the real issue is. Misguided parenting.
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dragonkit545 In reply to ??? [2013-11-20 22:28:13 +0000 UTC]
Honestly, as a young age, it's good to teach kids about this type of stuff. But it's not good to only show them the Bible, and not any other atheist beliefs. What people get mixed up on is "God is a benevolent being *insert religious beliefs here*" and "If you don't like my god and ONLY my god, you're going to be tortured forever!" If you think that #2 is the right answer, it's time to think about your life. In general, I believe that people should decide their own destinies.
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Orangecraz In reply to dragonkit545 [2014-02-05 01:21:55 +0000 UTC]
My parents educated me in their religion, then encouraged me to learn other beliefs so I can decide for myself. That's how people should teach religion anyway.
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DruDrewDraws In reply to ??? [2013-11-10 01:55:23 +0000 UTC]
i am an atheist, but i was raised by very christian parents. i don't think that it was abusive. they were sharing something they loved with me. they did it in my best interest. i have some fond memories that revolve around my religious upbringing. so in short, anyone who thinks that teaching kids about god is abusive is not thinking out what they're saying. the same logic could be used by saying that not teaching kids about god is abusive.
my opinion is that you should teach your kids what you believe in, but be open to the fact that kid may not grow up to share that belief.
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RosalinasSoulmate In reply to ??? [2013-11-09 04:40:40 +0000 UTC]
Wait...people actually believe teaching religion to kids is child abuse?
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
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Boschian-Fantasies In reply to ??? [2013-11-07 05:59:39 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for making this stamp. Extreme Atheism pisses me off to no end. As a Neopagan/Polytheist myself, I try to be tolerant of other people's beliefs. Tolerance goes both ways.
Hell, when I was a little kid, I was interested in world mythology and similar things, and I'm still interested today. Can you believe that there are some people who want to ban kids from learning about all religions, mythology and folklore? Some people are just too cynical...I swear....
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MetellaStella In reply to Boschian-Fantasies [2014-01-29 06:24:21 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I try to use terms like "anti-theist" . . . like distinguishing between militant feminism/feminazis and average feminists.
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Boschian-Fantasies In reply to MetellaStella [2014-01-29 07:18:41 +0000 UTC]
Anti-theist? Is that like anti-religion/mythology?
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MetellaStella In reply to Boschian-Fantasies [2014-01-31 00:35:46 +0000 UTC]
Yes, the atheists who go around insulting religious people, calling them dumb and unevolved, etc. Who think that all religion must be done away with and attacking anyone who disagrees.
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Boschian-Fantasies In reply to MetellaStella [2014-01-31 00:42:00 +0000 UTC]
My mother is sort of like that. Even if we got rid of religion, there will still be problems.
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Akhenamen In reply to Boschian-Fantasies [2014-01-30 12:15:28 +0000 UTC]
An atheist is somebody who doesn't believe in gods, but an antitheist is somebody who actually opposes gods.
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Boschian-Fantasies In reply to Akhenamen [2014-01-30 21:29:43 +0000 UTC]
Okay, thanks for the clear up.
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CloudyMcCumulus In reply to ??? [2013-11-07 05:40:53 +0000 UTC]
I fail to understand why people think we need to kill off religion. Whatever happened to Live and let live?
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2wingo In reply to CloudyMcCumulus [2013-11-14 04:50:48 +0000 UTC]
Because they mistakenly believe that religion is the only reason why people hate and kill each other, and that by getting rid of religion, everything will be better.
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CloudyMcCumulus In reply to 2wingo [2013-11-14 06:08:22 +0000 UTC]
Makes sense.
The only way to make things better is to get rid of people. Oops, did I post that?
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Neotokyo6 In reply to ??? [2013-11-05 18:15:09 +0000 UTC]
WTF???
is this consider be stupid first world problem?
what next made children eat vegetable is child abuse ?.
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SilentRosySunrise In reply to Neotokyo6 [2013-11-07 04:19:27 +0000 UTC]
Or making children go to school?
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Neotokyo6 In reply to SilentRosySunrise [2013-11-07 15:00:07 +0000 UTC]
that not child abuse....
but made child eat school lunch is child abuse.
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Idontknowwhoyouknow In reply to ??? [2013-11-05 07:44:39 +0000 UTC]
Teaching s not child abuse. Forcing is.
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amen-no-suomynona In reply to ??? [2013-11-05 03:35:37 +0000 UTC]
The one about people calling the Bible a "gory book" real pisses me off. Yes, I do agree that it has bloodshed and war in it. But what really ticks me off is when they say "Oh, it doesn't make it any better to make it kid friendly!" Well, you know what, look at the history of secular children's stories (for example the Grimm Brother's tales). They were originally darker and mature; now Disney took some of those tales and revamped it for more appropriate audiences. But still, that doesn't change the fact that some of those Disney movies have some pretty dark turns too... Sigh. Sorry I ranted. But good job bringing up points + making the stamp.
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Sotkettu In reply to ??? [2013-11-04 19:27:00 +0000 UTC]
People should learn about the different religions in school. I am from Finland and here every child learns really much about different religions at school. So for me it is very strange to see how much wrong information people from other countries have about the different religions. For example it is funny that I am an atheist and I know much more facts about the Bible than really many Christian adults from the United States knows.
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Orangecraz In reply to Sotkettu [2014-02-05 01:23:41 +0000 UTC]
Wow. Your school must be very good then.
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Sotkettu In reply to Orangecraz [2014-02-05 12:01:25 +0000 UTC]
I am not in school anymore - I am an adult. But all schools in Finland teach about all different religions. It is difficult to explain in English.
Of course some atheist groups think that the Finnish schools should stop teaching information about the religions. But many atheists don't think like that. It is good to know basic information about all different religions also if you are an atheist.
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MLPFiMRox In reply to Sotkettu [2013-11-05 07:01:12 +0000 UTC]
I'm in a Christian school and they teachers there are teaching GMRC. I agree.
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Sotkettu In reply to MLPFiMRox [2013-11-05 08:26:48 +0000 UTC]
What is GMRC? One website told that it is study about morals and values. Here in Finland the religion lessons at school don't teach those things. We learned only history and other information about all different religions.
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Slutgirl08 In reply to ??? [2013-11-04 18:32:26 +0000 UTC]
Teaching religion is fine, but forcing it is bad.
For the record, I was raised a deist but I became an atheist overtime.
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Sadistic-Songbird In reply to ??? [2013-11-04 17:42:48 +0000 UTC]
I've questioned my faith multiple times, but I know for sure in my heart that what I believe is true, not because I've been 'brainwashed' by my church leaders and family.
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Jonot In reply to ??? [2013-11-04 15:42:24 +0000 UTC]
Religion can teach children about ethics, morals, respect for authority, and many other things that are currently being distorted by "modern views". There's nothing wrong with learning the basic beliefs of the religions of the world, and gain a respect of the things that they believe while including them into yours.
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SiogaAgusArrachtaigh In reply to ??? [2013-11-04 06:20:24 +0000 UTC]
"But children do not need to learn from such a bloody and gorey book such as the Bible!"
Veggietales, bitches. I didn't realize it when I was younger, but as I grew up I noticed a lot of their videos based their stories on actual stories from the Bible. They just changed some things to make it more G rated and amusing for kids(and adults) alike. And they always had lessons to go with their stories. Even if you're not religious, I think they still teach you some pretty good ways to not be a dick to people. :U
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SeraphOfChrist In reply to ??? [2013-11-04 03:38:21 +0000 UTC]
Mah gaosh! All these comments and people not flaming each other yet?! :'D
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KiraArtemis21Gahoole In reply to ??? [2013-11-04 03:34:33 +0000 UTC]
I grew up in a christaint home. I turned out okay. Had a great youth pastor who took time to explain things to me. Anyway don't agree with you on that. But hey that's just my opinion of things.
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plzwork112234 In reply to ??? [2013-11-04 02:32:44 +0000 UTC]
I agree and disagree on some points. I don't believe that you should FORCE someone to believe in the Bible. But I am sure as in Christ is Lord that when (or if) I have children someday they will be raised Christian until they are old enough to make a choice to leave. I'm not going to just give up on my child, but if they make the choice to leave I have to respect that... I'm not going to drop it, no matter how old they are I WILL teach them about God.
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Little-rolling-bean In reply to ??? [2013-11-03 23:26:38 +0000 UTC]
Forcing it is bad, but teaching is fine, as long as you allow them to choose whatever in the future, I see no problem.
But I don't think it should be taught at schools.
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DruDrewDraws In reply to Little-rolling-bean [2013-11-10 01:59:09 +0000 UTC]
my dad is hardcore "keep god in schools and coins and everywhere else!!!" i love my dad, but i simply don't agree.
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ChaoticDarkAngel In reply to ??? [2013-11-03 20:25:34 +0000 UTC]
I think forcing children, especially at a young age, to believe in God is wrong but simply discussing it? I don't think that's child abuse at all. People really do need to learn the difference between force and simply having discussions about it.
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ChaoticDarkAngel In reply to ??? [2013-11-03 20:25:28 +0000 UTC]
I think forcing children, especially at a young age, to believe in God is wrong but simply discussing it? I don't think that's child abuse at all. People really do need to learn the difference between force and simply having discussions about it.
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Twilightlover2007 In reply to ??? [2013-11-03 19:59:18 +0000 UTC]
Our children's camp is fun and amazing. The people who work with the kids make sure it's a non-pressure situation, and that every child feels appreciated for who they are. I was just told of this today that one boy was at the children's camp(youth camp) and a person spoke of how God's love is always there, how God is always there for them. This poor boy started sobbing hearing this talk. He was prayed over by other kids(they did it all on their own, no one told them to go pray for him) and when he was asked later on what happened, he said that he'd felt so unloved when he went there(At first). he said his home life was hard, that everyone in his life went to him for their problems, and when he went there, hearing that talk, he heard God telling him that he was always there for him, that he would never leave the boy, that he loved him. Camps can change lives. Sadly I've only been to one with my old church before when I was younger(In middle school I think) but I wish I could've gone to more.
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Little-rolling-bean In reply to Twilightlover2007 [2013-11-03 23:27:59 +0000 UTC]
Awwwwh how cute! :3
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Twilightlover2007 In reply to Little-rolling-bean [2013-11-04 01:52:56 +0000 UTC]
I know right?
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Little-rolling-bean In reply to Twilightlover2007 [2013-11-04 07:51:13 +0000 UTC]
That is what religion should be, love.
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Twilightlover2007 In reply to Twilightlover2007 [2013-11-03 20:00:39 +0000 UTC]
I should add in that the mother of the boy was an alcoholic and was not saved.(How/why this boy ended up in the youth camp I don't know, but it changed his life)
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Orangecraz In reply to Twilightlover2007 [2014-02-05 01:25:41 +0000 UTC]
Free daycare, I guess? Who knows what some people think.
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Twilightlover2007 In reply to Orangecraz [2014-02-05 02:49:32 +0000 UTC]
Youth camp isn't free. I wasn't able to go all but one time because it's really expensive.
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