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All this talk about forcing children to believe in gods/God, it's a tragic thing, I agree. I feel horrible when I hear people are being forced to say what they don't believe in, just like many of you who had overzealous families that made you go to church without your consent. And I will say it's wrong to force children to engage in what they don't understand.But guys, there is nothing harmful about teaching religion to children.
"But teaching children religion slows human progress! In order to kill religion we must stop teaching it to kids!"
It does not slow so-called "progress". People who actually believe this, you have to realize that by killing off a religion, you or other people just end up creating and teaching ANOTHER one. Religion has been with us since the ANCIENT times, and no matter how much you try to be rid of it, it will always be replaced by some other dogmatic belief system, with or without gods. See also fav.me/d4xgjt3
"But children do not need to learn from such a bloody and gorey book such as the Bible!"
I agree, many children are not ready to experience the deep contexts of the Bible, but it doesn't harm the child to give the a rated G version that they can enjoy and understand:
No blood and gore in this little beauty. Antitheists and fundemental Christians, did you really expect a kid to be able to comprehend the adult version?
"But children do not need to be brainwashed by Christian camps!"
What about atheist children camps that have been around since 1996? They do just as much preaching about how God doesn't exist, it's liable to be called "brain-washing" as well when you put them both into that sort of context. The truth is, kids want to learn and be around other kids, and camps are the perfect opportunity for that. I strongly oppose camps that act more like boot-camps in general, so I can understand the concern inside children camps very much! Parents must choose wisely and know exactly what their children are being taught about when it comes to that sort of thing, so children can avoid being put into compromising situations.
" But children are taught that being an atheist is bad! They are trapped into thinking something they may not actually believe in! "
And I don't think it's right for that to happen. Alot of that behavior does not come from the actual message of Christianity, but from the parents themselves, because of THEIR faith. If a parent is THAT intimidated by someone who lacks the faith, their own faith is liable to be weaker than they wanted, and that is a problem they need to deal with themselves instead of bringing their children into it. Having doubt is not a bad thing, it's something everyone experiences at some point, and children should/are being taught to explore their beliefs. See also fav.me/d50o69g
I could go on and on about it, but here is where I think the real issue is. Misguided parenting.
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Paulthored In reply to ??? [2023-02-08 06:27:50 +0000 UTC]
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Finland-Skywalker In reply to Paulthored [2023-02-09 13:49:20 +0000 UTC]
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Paulthored In reply to Finland-Skywalker [2023-02-09 18:40:51 +0000 UTC]
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Finland-Skywalker In reply to Paulthored [2023-02-09 18:56:06 +0000 UTC]
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ErnestPeckham [2022-11-26 02:00:13 +0000 UTC]
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ErnestPeckham In reply to whitelighter5 [2022-11-25 23:14:28 +0000 UTC]
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whitelighter5 In reply to ErnestPeckham [2022-11-26 01:12:33 +0000 UTC]
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Seiya-Meteorite [2020-02-28 01:55:54 +0000 UTC]
Never pull out the whole "you'll go to hell if you don't believe" tactic or any other fear tactics if you're going to teach Christianity or any religion to children (I've even heard on one Christian blog about misconceptions Christians make that that believe it or not, the concept of hell actually isn't even taught in the Christian Bible), I never encountered that in my life and I never would be one of those people, using fear tactics to make children believe is child abuse, not teaching it. I'm Protestant, I grew up with the great Beginner's Bible as a child before moving to the actual one, and I still got to learn about science, and such (I do believe in the Bible, BUT, I do take parts of it with a grain of salt and believe the world's beginning was a mixture of both Creationism and Evolution, although I still question that sometimes). Heck, the school I was at was run by nuns but still allowed other beliefs to be practiced, did not discriminate on basis of belief, and I got to learn about evolution and all that stuff, plus that along with the religious principals I learned helped shape me today and change for the better as I used to be quite badly behaved but changed my ways.
I would also say, don't ever teach that you should only follow religious authority without question, as that is another example of child abuse there, children should be allowed to speak their minds and there's no harm in questioning beliefs at times, as I've done that sometimes.
But I will say I officially hate Bill Nye now that he did the same stupid claim and another stupid claim that teaching children religion is "going to destroy future generations." Yeah, Bill Nye, turns out, is now what I call Bill Nye the Bigot Guy, as he hates and harasses religious people, he's become another one of those people who thinks that because he's popular he can say whatever he wants to whoever he wants, I hate those types of people as much as I hate the Westboro Baptist Church, these horrible, disturbing Lil' Markie records (worst excuses of Christian records/music ever) and people like Kirk Cameron and other religious nuts. Let people teach religion or atheism if they want, just as long as they don't hurt others, use scare tactics, nor force it onto others and respect others if they have different beliefs.
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SilverBeastLaguz [2019-10-31 22:49:03 +0000 UTC]
As an atheist, I agree with this stamp and its message.
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k-rooltyfree [2019-09-07 00:51:33 +0000 UTC]
Teaching is a-okay, but Christians are preachers at its greatest definition. Kids are highly impressionable and saying things like "you will go to hell and face damnation if you don't follow Christianity" to a kid is cruel.
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Preston-Draws63 [2019-06-19 17:37:11 +0000 UTC]
I was taught with christianity when I was a young boy of age 6 or 7, and I'm totally fine with it.
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whitelighter5 In reply to Preston-Draws63 [2022-01-01 08:45:55 +0000 UTC]
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Dionette [2018-12-24 17:02:04 +0000 UTC]
If it is to be taught, I'd say it should be taught in the same way as all the other mythologies, because that's what it is. And before that, they should be taught how to tell the differences between reality and fantasy.
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graydouc [2018-12-03 03:17:37 +0000 UTC]
in history we're reading religious texts and it feels like child abuse tbh
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Tortive [2018-09-09 19:20:30 +0000 UTC]
Teaching religion: "Your assignment is to do research on [insert religion here] and give a presentation so we can understand it better."
I hope people understand it.
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Meztli72 [2018-07-15 20:30:58 +0000 UTC]
As parents who believe in God teach children the spiritual values, Love, respect, kindness, Love for others, for themselves, for Nature and creatures, modesty (without exaggerations), a sense of responsibility, cleanness, purity and chastity, a sense of strength and courage towards everyday life, tolerance, acceptation of the differences while at the same time teaching them to strength family and family values (as marriage between a man and a woman), contempt for violence unless extremely necessary for protecting family and nation (people) from a real danger, how to practice peace and harmony between all, tolerance to other religions, beliefs, etc., tolerance for atheistics, to Love the sinner but hate the sin (very important); then they're doing nothing wrong.
All this is resumed here, for example, in Christianity, in the Lord Jesus Christ's words (John 13:34-35 King James Version):
34] A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
35] By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
So if all I wrote above in the first paragraph is true religion, then I absolutely agree with the stamp. ^^
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XxPristineFlipperxX In reply to Kaasusumu [2018-09-10 03:02:20 +0000 UTC]
Couldn't agree more ^w^
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Meztli72 In reply to Kaasusumu [2018-07-15 20:40:35 +0000 UTC]
Forcing is not the key. The key is to teach children from the very early age; besides, parents must doing it by example. Coercion is not from a loving God. And most cases of astray and insolent children/teens are because their parents weren't doing so by example, and/or didn't teach their children at early age how to Love and practice the good things and avoid, hate the bad ones. ^^
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starmariofan4 [2018-04-09 17:07:38 +0000 UTC]
Forcing a child to participate in Drag Queen Pageants surrounded by 30 something adults and making them act like the opposite sex is though.
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FetShibe In reply to starmariofan4 [2019-12-11 06:10:33 +0000 UTC]
yes its truly despicable
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EverydayMelancholy [2018-02-25 18:01:28 +0000 UTC]
It can be good if they agreed to it
It's not child abuse wth yall
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Sparklet-Rayne [2018-02-13 22:21:55 +0000 UTC]
So much of history is full of sin, gore, violence, injustice, war, and abuse. Children especially young ones aren't ready for that either. It is advised that they not watch much news either. It is possible to teach them some G rated versions of historical events. Events like that are reflected in the Bible and other religious texts. Just teach them what they are ready to comprehend. I'm so glad fun G rated versions of the Bible and other religious texts are available.
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TrottingPeryton In reply to Sparklet-Rayne [2018-07-13 21:26:27 +0000 UTC]
Don't forget that tons of fables and classic tales are far darker and gorier than many modern versions. I've had to explain to quite a few folks who 'love' the Little Mermaid that it is the Disney version they love and that the original story of Aladdin was much raunchier and perverted. Heck versions of Sleeping Beauty and Beauty and the Beast are way darker and not so kid friendly (at least by our standards.
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TrottingPeryton In reply to TheCaptainsMate [2018-05-03 06:25:57 +0000 UTC]
You're being idiotic and bigoted. It goes both ways. There's plenty of proof of misguided folk teaching others not just children about health, history, sports, science, culture, and other things in harmful and twisted ways.
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tultsi93 [2017-11-07 08:37:04 +0000 UTC]
I'm an Atheist with religious parenting and I'm just fine.
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luckxzzee [2017-11-04 18:19:18 +0000 UTC]
wait people think thats abuse? it could be in some forms but most of the time its not XD
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RensKnight [2017-10-29 20:44:09 +0000 UTC]
I wholeheartedly agree with this. It is the WAY you teach children about religion that makes it right or wrong. Yes, my parents raised me Christian and taught me it was the right faith to follow. But they never did this by putting down other people, pulling out the “burn in Hell” card, or by restricting information about other beliefs, about science, etc. Hell, they actively ENCOURAGED it when I started seeking books on science, evolution, and all of that. They let me figure out how all of that interacted with faith on my own. I think that’s part of a proper religious education: providing space for discussion, and also space for figuring things out on your own. Exercising your intellectual faculties is this encouraged rather than discouraged.
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Hyper--Drunk [2017-08-08 15:59:04 +0000 UTC]
As someone who was raised and taught by a catholic mom i feel this so hard. People seem to think teaching kids about religion is some great evil when it really isn't as long as you literally aren't abusing them over it
Plus, weren't some of the world's greatest scientists christians, like Isaac Newton and Werner Von Braun? I'm pretty sure teaching kids religion wouldn't kill brain cells if some of the biggest minds of the age were also religious folk.
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Natural-Avenue [2017-04-13 15:09:10 +0000 UTC]
Aww the Beginner's Bible! I remember reading and loving it when I was a child :'D
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natthecat11 [2016-12-27 22:32:54 +0000 UTC]
well in most cases unfortunately, what they "learn" from tries to push religion down their throats.
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MegaFreedom1274 [2016-10-28 04:27:01 +0000 UTC]
If you teach a kid athiesm, its socially acceptable, but if you teach a kid about god, OH SHAME ON YOU, i dont see the difference other than the difference in beliefs.
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darknessthehedgehog3 [2016-09-22 13:53:16 +0000 UTC]
ok so teaching your child that there going to burn forever is ok if they don't worship the right gods ass ok that sound more like child abuse to me
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IvoryAlmonds In reply to darknessthehedgehog3 [2017-05-10 16:14:07 +0000 UTC]
If I said that Santa won't come tonight and put coal in your stockings for NOT heeding or being obedient, or tell you the scary tale of the boogeyman/monsters will come if you aren't in the bed at the right time with sandman's dust... I guess that's child abuse too.
Trust me a sane person wouldn't tell a children that they are going to burn in hell forever (maybe when they are older/ready to decide and learn more in depth, yeah.) If anything I see little to no people saying that to their children. I usually only see you'd be punished, or follow the devil's work. Informing, teaching ideologies, and bluntly forcing and condemning them are two different matters. Even so if some did this or told them what you propose, not all christians would do this nor teach this. Teaching them about Christ is not the problem. IT'S THE PARENTS.
It's sad that you'd lump them all up in the same category.
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AVOlD [2016-08-19 04:35:33 +0000 UTC]
Honestly anyone who thinks teaching kids religion is child abuse is a huge ass fucking idiot. I'm sorry, but it's true.
As a child I was an asshole. But with out religion I would have been worse. My dad told me bad people go to hell, and I thought okay I'll try to be a good kid (didn't work but I thought I was doing good lmao).
Religion has helped me tons through out life. I'm glad my parents taught me it from an early start.
That being said I don't support religious nut cases who throw out their kids for not fitting the religious cookie cutter mold, and I don't support parents slut shaming their daughters for wearing what they want in the name of religion.
It's a flawed system, I'll admit, but it does good to the kids who get taught right.
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whitelighter5 In reply to AVOlD [2022-01-01 08:58:25 +0000 UTC]
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MadKingFroggy [2016-08-14 16:45:33 +0000 UTC]
I agree. Teaching children about religion isn't child abuse. Teaching them about it in a non biased way and letting them develop their own beliefs is absolutely fine.
However indoctrination is not. Filling their heads with literal interpretations, homophobic messages and telling them that they're going to hell if they do some pretty normal or trivial things is child abuse.
EDIT: Lol, I forgot I already commented on this! XD
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NateFlazh1000 [2016-08-13 10:00:15 +0000 UTC]
Yes it fucking is. "If you don't bow down to this god that I believe in you will get tortured for all of eternity" Do you have any idea how fucking damaging that is to a child's mind? Stop brainwashing children.
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