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Why should a woman be forced to carry the child of somebody who raped and disgraced her? It's her body, she should be allowed to do whatever she wants with it.Related content
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i agree. nobody should be forced to carry a baby they don't want. no matter what the situation.
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Exactly! No rape victim should be forced to carry the spawn of the sick fuck who brutally assaullted her and tore her soul apart, but tell that to a group of protesters at the abortion clinics >.> Some people just don't get it, and yet they have the nerve to ostracize the poor female no matter what happens to the fetus after -_-
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Don't worry, heartless hypocrites have a special place in hell.
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I'm so glad to hear that ^_^ Shame on them for ostracizing women who go through something like that. The sad thing is, I know many women who actually kept their rape baby and were still treated horribly, never mind that is was NEVER their fault. Such a sad world we live in
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That is always a horrible thing to witness. 
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After reading the following do you REALLY want the survivor to be FORCED to carry the embryo. Isn't that just cruel to what she has already endured and will continue to endure for the rest of her life.
Common Reactions to Rape
Reactions and adjustments to rape are in many ways similar to those one might experience following other life crisis. They vary greatly depending on such things as the victim's age, maturity, life experience and support system. The nature of the attack itself might also affect the reaction. An attack by a stranger armed with a deadly weapon might cause different adjustment problems, for instance than an attack by a casual acquaintance with whom the victim has had some social contact.
It is also important to realize that any observation of reaction and adjustment to rape are based on a relatively small sample. It has only been recently that victims have been willing to talk about their experience. The following discussion is based on current literature on the subject and on observations of the rape victim advocate project staff. It is essential to understand that there is no way that victims respond and adjust to this crisis. Any one victim might exhibit all or none or any combinations of the system describe. Problems might occur within a week, a year, ten years or never.
Self-concept
Prior to their own rape attack, many rape victims have shared the popular belief that "women ask for it." There is little evidence to support such belief but it can nevertheless cause deep feelings of guilt. It is common for the victim to relive her experience continuously, asking herself how she might have avoided the attack. Likewise, with societal attitudes about sex being compounded, she is likely to feel a sense of contamination unlike anything she would feel if she were a victim of another kind of assault.
Because she doubts herself and feels "unclean," it is easy for her to assume that others feel the same way about her. She may become suspicious in her personal relationships, and avoid social contacts which might have been normal for her previously. When a person has been subjected to another person's will, her sense of her personal power may be seriously threatened. She may lose faith in her own ability to make the right decision and to exert any form of independence, indecisiveness and increased dependence on others are common characteristics following a rape attack.
Feelings
Other feelings which rape victims commonly experience are hurt, anger and nearly always fear. The hurt stems from the inability to understand what would motivate someone to commit such an attack. It is common for victims to ask, "What did I do that would make him want to do that to me?" Anger about the personal violation is probably the healthiest reaction, because it turns the pain outward instead of inward, but it often takes time for a victim to acknowledge such feelings.
Fear may be most pervasive feeling we have observed; fear about their environment, about their health, about their personal relationships. Stranger-to-stranger crimes probably foster more fear of the environment. It is common for victims of such attacks to be extremely wary on the street, in the car, in their home and nearly any time they are alone. Fears about health are usually related to venereal disease and pregnancy, as rape attacks involving injury are fairly rare.
Rape between people who know each other is especially likely to cause suspicions about personal relationships. In fact, there is some evidence that the better the victim knows the assailant, the greater is the devastation to her personal life. This is because an attack by a friend or acquaintance can cause someone to suspect even those she had previously trusted. Despite the type of attack, it is common for women to fear the response and reaction of family and friends. Will they be believed? Judged? Rejected?
Symptoms
Often the anxiety and confusion caused by a rape attack are exhibited in physical and psychological symptoms. Complaints of stomach aches, headaches, nausea and depression are common. Likewise anxiety, about the sexual nature of the attack can cause symptoms such as vaginal pain, itching or frequent urination. Phobias about the environment are common and may be reflected in the victim's moving frequently, refusing to be alone, or unable to sleep. Her fears that others are judging her may be cause to avoid groups or being in public. Her association of sexuality with violence may lead her to avoid physical contact or to experience considerable anxiety when such contact occurs.
Phases of Adjustment
Most victims of rape adjust to their experience in phases. Patterns of this adjustment vary greatly and it is important to state again that there is no one appropriate way to readjust. However, three stages of adjustment have been observed as occurring frequently following a rape attack as well as other life crisis.
These three stages are:
1. Shock: During this phase the victim may suffer from acute anxiety, fear, and guilt, and observable reactions can vary from hysteria to numbness.
2. Denial: During this stage the victim attempts to "forget the whole thing." She will probably discuss the incident very little, will deny any strong feelings of hurt or anger, and will attempt to return to her daily routine.
3. Integration: Despite attempts to return to "business as usual," many rape victims realize that the attack has played a more important role in their lives than they had realized. Recurring nightmares, uneasiness about the environment and difficulties with personal relationships often continues to plague them. Prolonged effects of the attack may force a woman into a healthy reevaluation of the incident and it's impact on her life.
It appears that one of the first and most important steps in the integration process is for the victim to acknowledge her own feelings of hurt and anger toward her assailant. While these might seem to be very natural and easily expressed feelings, we have found that a very common initial explanation from the victim about why she came forward is "I reported because I think he is very sick and needs psychiatric help." Girls and women who are subjected to this kind of attack often find it inappropriate to feel hatred or vindictiveness and may only increase the tension in themselves by trying to deny such feelings.
Likewise once a victim can admit to herself that she feels some guilt about the attack she can begin to examine the source of that guilt. Once she understands that much of it comes from the myths about rape which she herself has accepted, she can feel more secure about how she handled her situation and can stop projecting her own self-doubt onto those around her.
Another important aspect of integration occurs when the victim begins to take positive, pragmatic steps to improve her situation. Medical treatment can ease her fears about her health. Self-defense courses may make her feel more physically secure. Pressing charges against her assailant can be a healthy way for her to see some kind of justice from her situation. Support groups provide an avenue for her to sort out her feelings with others who have similar experiences. Long term mental health therapy is often helpful too.
Many rape victims express an interest in helping others through a similar experience and can resolve some of their own concerns by becoming active in hotline counseling or speaking to groups. Of course a very important factor in readjustment is to take sensible steps to reduce ones vulnerability. This might include securing her home with adequate locks, carrying a whistle when walking alone, refusing to accept rides from strangers, etc.
Found at [link]
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support to the max. My cousin got raped at 15 so she didnt hav birth control, and she got pregnant from it. she was lucky she didnt get killed. The baby would have ruined her life and caused her to struggle to pay bills and probably drop out and live on wellfare. The people that say that this shouldn't be aborted, want to punish her for being raped? even if the baby was put up for adoption, that's nine months of hell for a girl that shouldn't legally be pregnant.
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Hell yeah. Nobody should endure a rape pregnancy, much less a forced one.
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I agree with this. I'm against abortion for the most part, but I don't think rape victims should have to see the child of a man who ripped them apart. I know the child doesn't deserve it, but the mother doesn't either, so she should have the right to abort.
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I think if a woman is raped she should have the right to abort any pregnancy that results. That is not to say however, that all women who get pregnant as a result of rape should do, each circumstance is different and the woman has to do what she feels is right.
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I think that is Disgusting, why is it the Childs fault, why should they have no right to be born because of some hideous person who did something horrible to you, don't blame the baby, it did nothing.
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A fetus isn't a child nor a baby!
Imao, you clearly don't know the difference.
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Why should his victim be forced to endure MORE pain and suffering, just to have his disgusting spawn? What a lovely sense of compassion you have.
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It has nothing to do with blaming the fetus. The mother has the right to protect her body, and if the rapist impregnates her, well, she has every right to remove that parasitic attack from her body.
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You care more for a fetus than a full-grown woman? She shouldn't be punished for something that wasn't her fault. If she wants to go through with the pregnancy then all the power to her, but if she doesn't then she shouldn't have to.
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So, we have your support in this matter? Well, thanks, but I don't need a man to approve of my choices in order for me to act on them. How is this your concern?
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He's supporting your right to choice, as everyone should have choices. It's not like he's saying you should or shouldn't have an abortion - he's saying you should have a choice that you and you alone should be making. I don't understand the weird hostility.
You're acting like a feminazi, and as a female, I find what you said damn offensive.
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The more supporters the better. Who knows; this guy may end up in a position of power someday.
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Men are the one who make all the laws about urteruses they don't have. :/
What's wrong with men backing women on supporting choice? I agree it shouldn't be an issue for men to even get into, but as long as the US decides to allow men to vote on women's rights issues than I'd love to hear them express their support.
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How do you know I'm a man? For all you know I could be a caterpillar. And I was being nice in saying that it would be the womans choice.
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I'm not sure if I support aborting "rape babies" because why should the kid be punished for the crime of the father?
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Becuase it would ruin the life of the mother, the kid would suffer from poverty and stress as well
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Why punish the mother for being a victim?
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There is no punishment in abortion. The fetus has no understanding of what punishment even is. Abortion is about respecting the rights of the pregnant woman.
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The kid really isn't a kid yet. A human fetus is really hardly any more human than, for example, a dog's fetus at the time of most abortions. Sure, it has a heartbeat, it has fingernails, but it doesn't think. It hasn't become a person yet. I get what you're saying though. I think abortion should really be thought over by the mother before she does it, but because it's the woman's body, she should have the choice.
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Try thinking of this from the mothers point of view. Would you honestly want to carry birth and raise the child of the man who RAPED you and have to struggle to care for it without the aid of a father?
Besides, the chances are that the child will be put up for adoption or pushed away emotionally by the mother. Mental trauma can really screw up some people.
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It's sperm...like it knows anything. Sometimes you have to give life a chance, I believe in God (but if you believe in mother nature this also applies), so let nature take its course, messing with it would also lead to shame and guilt for killing a baby. I respect your opinion, but this is mine. It's not just their body, technically there is another person in there. I say, if there is a pulse, it's living.
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"sometimes you have to give life a chance," No, you really don't.
"messing with it would also lead to shame and guilt for killing a baby." 80% of the time, it wouldn't lead to shame or guilt.
" It's not just their body, technically there is another person in there." Actually, it is her body. Someone is using it without her consent. Thus, she has every right to kill it.
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Why do I keep getting "okay" on these sort of things. It's rather confusing.
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If we always let nature take it course people wouldn't past 40. When intervene with what "nature" wants all the time. It's not natural to stop a heart attack, cure cancer, or fight infections. Stuff people died from routinely 100 years ago are things that people casually walk into a doctors office and get prescribed anti-biotics for.
It may be another living organism, BUT... It can't be alive without the mother's assistance. Forced pregnancy would be as bad as forced organ donation, since both rely on using someone else for their survival. It's an invasion of privacy that no person has a right to do.
I understand you have your opinion, but can I ask a few questions since you probably push for adoption as an alternative? The last person I asked wouldn't answer them.
Adoption isn't just, "Oh, bye baby! I can continue normally with life now."
- Who is going to pay her prenatal care costs?
- Who is going to pay her $10,000 or more birth bill?
- What if she has physical or mental illness that would be worsened by pregnancy?
- What if she takes medicine that would kill the fetus or cause birth defects?
A lot of people forget that giving away a baby is also upsetting or even traumatic, sometimes even if it's produced by rape. So this woman not only has to deal with the emotions that come with rape and a forced pregnancy, but also with giving away her child and being a birth mother. Do you know what kind of mental state someone is going to be in after all of this?
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First point: That's so ironic, because no matter what shit medicine we have anyways people are still dying young. Talking about not living past 40, when killing a baby is not even letting it live at all? There something wrong with the us as people today, we're being governed by a world with useless technology, if I could only slit the sickly ties man has made...
I'll post my second response later after I take a nap...
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I wasn't saying everyone would live, but greater numbers would live. For example, deaths by infectious, bacterial disease are only ONE TWENTIETH of what they were in 1900. While people still die, without interfering nature more people would die.
I'm also struggling to see how This: [link] and This: [link] are the same thing.
You seem very concerned about technology and modern medicine infiltrating human kind, I'd suggest joining the Amish.
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[link]
And this?
Besides, if I were to join the Amish how could I reply to your arguments?
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Don't even pull that garbage. That's a 27 week old fetus, and has over an 85% chance of survival outside the mother. Almost 90% of abortions are done before 12 weeks, when the fetus looks like the pictures I showed. Almost no one is going to be OK with aborting a 27 week old fetus. Abortions that late occur from less than 1% of all abortions, and are typically only done on malformed fetuses. That's why most places have bans on abortions past 24 weeks, since that is when the fetus has a greater than 50% chance of surviving outside the mother.
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Don't say what I have to say garbage, you're getting off on a NEUTRAL DISCUSSION. Abortions are abortions, it's not like the the original stamp maker defined what kind of abortion it is. A fetus will eventually become the picture I showed you, and if it has a pulse it's a living being.
No matter what you say, you won't convince me.
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It is very much garbage. One is not able to survive outside of the mother at all, one is.
I know I'm not going to change your mind, but I can at least make you aware of your misogyny.
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Oh yeah, I DISLIKE women, my whole views support women, but my support of humanity as a whole overshadows it. You're being incredibly moronic, the typical methods USED to take out a baby from the mothers womb, KILLS it in the process. That's the FUCKING point!
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Your views do not support women. Pro-life IS anti-woman.
A baby is not killed in the process, a fetus is destroyed.
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"...but my support of humanity as a whole overshadows it." Why don't you READ? And I'm sure your also aware that a woman puts her body at risk when going through the process of aborting a child.
To answer your ON GOING question about the costs to give up a child for adoption, nothing is worth more than the price of a life. I don't really care what your opinion is of what's living and what's not, but I DO know this:
"Anybody against abortion, has already been born."
- Ronald Reagan
THE END.
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The risk of pregnancy is many times greater than the risk of abortion, jsyk. In the united states, 24 women died for every 100,000 live births in 2008. (Most recent statistic I can find [link] ) This isn't even accounting for babies dying during delivery or mother's who have died from the any time pregnancy before giving birth. Of ALL abortions in 2007, only 6 women died from complications. [link] (Ctrl + F abortion fatality) Seeing as about 1 million abortions were performed in 2008 [link] , that's a lot less maternal deaths. About 234 less.
I might be born, all pro-choice people have been born. That's because our mother's chose to keep us. Chose. Chose. Chose. As in, they had a choice. Had we had been aborted, we wouldn't be here to care. The end.
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How about you stop fucking spewing out STATISTICS and start seeing the big fucking picture, it's murder. And my mother, believes in pro-LIFE, so she wouldn't have wanted to have a choice either way. I still think you think you're incredibly smart because you copy and paste facts from whatever.
But now, I guess because you happen to kiss this user's ass so much you fucking won.
Espero que todo va muy bien para usted, imbécil.
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I'm only spewing statistics because you said abortion carries risks too, and I just wanted to inform you that abortion has far less risks and deaths than pregnancy.
I see the big picture, I'm afraid. For varying reasons a woman chooses to destroy a non-sentient multi-celled organism that no one has emotional attachment to.
Your mom is pro-life? Cool, my mom is pro-choice!
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This is a really old comment and there's really no point in me saying so, but I really admire your thoughts on this! Sources and real stats--respecting and supporting the *woman with her own decisions!
You, ma'am, are a great person.
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I like this but my issue is, if you are going to get an abortion, rape baby or otherwise, get it early, before it can develop.
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